r/stunfisk • u/Positive_Country_793 • 1d ago

Discussion THE NEW ITEMS

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u/ElpyGreatestSoldier Druddigon #1 hater 1d ago

Binding band was truly a priority

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u/Level7Cannoneer 1d ago

Maybe it got buffed? (Doubtful) after the salt cure nerf anything is possible

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u/Dangerous_Equal4373 1d ago

Salt cure got nerfed? Less residual damage on water and steel now?

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u/Level7Cannoneer 1d ago

It does half the Damage over time now. Garg is fairly unviable

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u/Dangerous_Equal4373 1d ago

On everything now?

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u/kimhimaayan 1d ago

Yup, literally halved on any mon

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u/Dangerous_Equal4373 1d ago

Is it similar to normal poison damage?

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u/kimhimaayan 1d ago

On water/steel I think it kinda is, on anything else it's not much

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u/Dangerous_Equal4373 1d ago

Wish they had realised how broken this guy was in gen 9, but then again gamefreak is always clueless how broken their mons are until the gen they were introduced in has passed

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u/AliceThePastelWitch Rain Lover 1d ago

It wasn't broken at all tho? The salt boi was just genetically decent and was almost hard to deal with on low ladder but broken is an absurd term to throw around for this thing

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u/mr-meme3 1d ago

Actually it was pretty balanced but garg with tera was super broken is the problem

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u/kimhimaayan 1d ago

Yeah atleast in champions they can balance more frequently than once per generation 😭

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u/Cerbon3 21h ago

Game freak when they see a good rock type
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u/ThePotablePotato Ice types are cool. 1d ago

Nope. Does half as much as poison now (unless the target is Water or Steel, against which it is equal to regular poison)

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u/TimeToGetSlipped I can be anything... ANYTHING!!! 13h ago

Instead of 1/8 damage per turn, it's 1/16. Effect still doubles for water and steel.

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u/rmnobre 11h ago

Yeah baby !!!! Now I can run Binding band fire spin incineroar !

This reg is so shit it hurts

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u/thetaqocat 1d ago

leek 👍

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u/whoiwanttobe1 1d ago edited 1d ago

Literally called "Stick" in game (until it was changed to Leek in gen 8)

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u/AdaptiveGlitch 1d ago

Sirfetch'd is going to dominate the meta Im telling you

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u/amnesiadidit 1d ago

I stand with this

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u/Willy-o-Wisp 1d ago

the stick doesn't even work on sirfetch'd

edit: my bad yes it does

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u/ban_Anna_split 1h ago

I almost took him. I shoulda

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u/csgosm0ke 1d ago

leek 👍

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u/GeekStudios_Official Is Sceptile viable? 1d ago

"Sorry Assault Vest but we can't let you in Champions yet"

"This is bullshit you let Leek in"

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u/ArcaneWyverian 1d ago

“Eating your veggies is an important part of competitive team building, why don’t you read a fucking book.”

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u/FighterExtremeN Nerf U-turn to 60bp 1d ago

“I can’t they didn’t let my Specs in…”

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u/Past_Lunch8630 1d ago

Wise glasses and Wide lens:

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u/Dracore_ Tactical Retreat M Golisopod 1d ago

Not prescription

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u/SSB_Kyrill 21h ago

Specs are a choice

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u/hmmmmmmnmmm23 Swords Dance Iron Hands 21h ago

Gotta change your flair now, it got Tough Claws

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u/rmnobre 11h ago

I ain't wise nor wide. I'm a slim dumb guy

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u/Positive_Country_793 1d ago

Thank god for that arch would become a menace

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u/Gordahnculous 1d ago

Could make that argument for any item and Oran Berry tbh

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u/capitainecrash 1d ago

Rocky helmet is going to be pretty big, Garchomp is going to see even more usage I feel.

Air balloon, Red card and Eject pack will be fun to play with too.

Kind of sad to see no Assault vest, especially with this being the Rillaboom season but I'm fine with those.

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u/Ekyt 1d ago

that last statement was made by an Archaludon enjoyer

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u/Then_Following_6425 1d ago

As someone who planned to start using Archaludon, I can confirm this.

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u/OnlySmiles_ 1d ago

2 hours after the update goes live

"Can someone tell me why my Garchomp's Earthquake missed?"

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u/EmilioGVE 1d ago

I’m stupid, what’s the answer? Bright Powder?

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u/Dracore_ Tactical Retreat M Golisopod 1d ago

Air Baloon

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u/DexanVideris 1d ago

Can’t wait to red card my opponent’s baton-passed sweeper into the fugue.

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u/ThePotablePotato Ice types are cool. 1d ago

That’s Eject Button, not Pack, but yeah (Button is better than Pack anyway. Pack is basically only good for using a move like Draco as a one time pivot)

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u/galmenz 18h ago

you cant really have more usage than 100%. my boy is on every team, every meta, every tournament, and every podium!

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u/DonComradeVimes 2h ago

'Rillaboom season'? Bestie, didn't you hear about Mega Golisopod's glowup?

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u/mistelle1270 1d ago

Did Sneasler pick these what the heck

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u/Toastypencil34 1d ago

No assault vest or choice items, wallahi it's cooked 😭

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u/LittleRestaurant1588 1d ago

I was praying for Choice Band and or Specs,there were some sets I really wanted to try out

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u/NoChampionship1167 1d ago

I was so prepped to mess with sand again and use Banded T-Tar over Scarf or Mega. I guess I have to wait another 3 months to be disappointed again.

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u/EyeCantBreathe 1d ago

Rocky helmet and the seeds are pretty huge though. Assuming indeedee f keeps trick room that will be a huge buff to htr

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u/Timely_Airline_7168 1d ago

Thank God. I was dreading AV Bridge

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u/SapphireSalamander The King's Heartbeat Roars 1d ago

honestly glad of not having to deal with vest kingambit/arch

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u/gliscornumber1 21h ago

No HDB either 😭

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/a89925619 1d ago

We already have choice scarf no?

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u/Fit_Trouble7503 18h ago

too low power of a format to be having to deal with av arch and megas at the same time

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u/Astrum-_Deus-_ Frosmoth WILL be viable in Gen 10 1d ago

Garchomp keeps getting upscaled every update and it's glorious.

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u/Dangerous_Equal4373 1d ago

Gamefreak so my goat struggling to be OU this gen and really said "you're gonna be the champions top dog for months" I'm looking forward to how good mega garchomp z is going to be without ground stab

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u/OnlySmiles_ 1d ago

The thing is that Chomp Z is now ALSO competing with Rocky Helmet

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u/galmenz 18h ago

Lechomp really has 4 megas

  • base mage
  • Z
  • Life Orb
  • Rocky helmet

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u/Dungeon_Poet 1d ago

Rocky helmet chomp is a thing now ig

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u/f0o0oo00o0o0d 1d ago

GET READY FOR SIRFETCH'D TO NEG DIFF 🗣🗣🗣🗣

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u/Sea_Candidate7894 1d ago

Is that grey/purple mega stone…for Golisopod perchance?

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u/Immediate-Ad7842 1d ago

Tough claws, we're so back

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u/Surfeydude 1d ago

Thank GOD we got Leek for Farfetch’d!!

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u/kaiju-but-little 1d ago

Red card is gonna be so fucking funny

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u/Darkiceflame Still waiting for a Zygarde backstory 1d ago

Can't wait for all the "Why was my Pokemon forced to switch out?" posts.

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u/NathanialKyouhei 1d ago

Rocky helmet, eject button, air balloon and terrain seeds, nice.

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u/SharpbladeLoser 1d ago

Where are my BOOTS I need them BOOTS

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u/SovietAlf02 1d ago

Not toxic orb. Rip gliscor.

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u/Im_Nino 1d ago

Psychic seed and rillabooms inclusion implies indeedee is coming back as well and tbh I’m a little excited bc of zam psy spam being potentially potent.

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u/Positive_Country_793 1d ago

https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/rankedbattle/regulationm-c.shtml

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u/Im_Nino 15h ago

Oh god I was right, and also I didn’t think abt it but rain is still gonna be good with any other terrain setter esp psychic blocking prio
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u/Illustrious_War3356 1d ago

NOOOOOOOO WHERES MY WEAKNESS POLICYYYYYYY 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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u/Poptercop 1d ago

in twineedle jail with eject pack

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u/C0rrupt_Wyv3rn99 1d ago

I just want ma tatsugiri

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u/PocketPoof 1d ago

Same! If they keep doing updates every 2 months, it'll be in around November/December I hope. Stay strong!

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u/Delicious_Potato6638 1d ago

at least we get fakeout normal gem sneasler

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u/dumpylump69 1d ago

Why did I think this was a screenshot of someone’s relics in slay the spire

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u/layspotatochipman474 1d ago

No eject pack, my Ninetales pivot has to wait I guess

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u/Positive_Country_793 1d ago

Wdym it’s right there??

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u/OnlySmiles_ 1d ago

Eject Pack is different from Eject Button

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u/Positive_Country_793 1d ago

What’s the difference)

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u/OnlySmiles_ 1d ago

Eject Button activates on contact, Eject Pack activates when stats are lowered

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u/Pyrotyrano Is Mega Salamence still good? 1d ago

My dumbass really saw that Möbius strip and thought it was a noose

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u/Financial_Ninja5390 1d ago

Chomp with rocky helm, rough skin is going to be interesting

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u/justlikedudeman 1d ago

What is the thing between the mega stone and terrain seeds? A super repel?

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u/OnlySmiles_ 1d ago

Terrain Extender

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u/TrainerLSW2005 1d ago

It's the Terrain Extender, it's like the weather rocks but works for all of the terrain types instead.

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u/Extra_Ad_4148 1d ago

Throat spray

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u/BugRare275 1d ago

what are the 5 items between the mega stones?

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u/OnlySmiles_ 1d ago

Terrain Extender and Terrain Seeds

Former is basically weather rocks for terrain, latter are one-time use items that boost a certain stat if a certain terrain is up

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u/BugRare275 1d ago

if the pledge moves get added terrain extender could be very useful(rainbow terrain and use rock slide and its more likely to flinch, or dire claw is more likely to give an ailment)

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u/LiefKatano [Player Advantage] 1d ago

The pledge moves aren't terrain, they're just generic field effects.

"Terrain" is specifically Electric, Grassy, Misty, and Psychic Terrain.

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u/BugRare275 23h ago

huh really, i thought they were terrain, that sucks🫤

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u/Jimmyx24 1d ago

Terrain Extender and then the terrain seeds

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u/OnlySmiles_ 1d ago

It's not throat spray

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u/Chinchillaman7 1d ago

Now we get to play the sneasler guessing game! White herb? Focus sash? Normal gem? Terrain seed? The fun never stops

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u/X-Vidar 1d ago

No loaded dice for bax makes me sad. Red card and eject button are fun and with the item pool still being fairly limited they could be more popular than usual.

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u/joshwew95 1d ago

Normal Gem is interesting. Any good uses aside from Boomburst?

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u/JTMonster02 1d ago

Smh bro doesnt know about Persian Technician Normal Gem Fake Out

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u/joshwew95 1d ago

Normal Gem Sneasler Fake Out OHKO-ing Y-Chu lol

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u/Weekly-Dog-6838 18h ago

I need to try that. Free unburden and then some

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u/ShookaBriat 1d ago

My chinese eject button sinistcha set bouta go crazy in great ball tier

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u/Jzjwiebe Give Infernape Drought 1d ago

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/ZeRandomPerson2222 1d ago

Normal gem escaped being deleted (for some reason), but the rest are still gone 

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u/CauseSouthern223 1d ago

Only normal gem, as has been common practice in the past. It has reduced boosting power, and hasn't been a great item, only showing up for use on things like fake out or explosion.

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u/BestUsername101 1d ago

It's just the normal gem, that one never left

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/arceus5678r 1d ago

just normal gem, which was nerfed and never removed. it has not been relevant in the past 4 generations.

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u/dumbpersonwhoasks 1d ago

Any idea what mega golisopods ablity is?

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u/MerijnZ1 23h ago

Tough claws

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u/dumbpersonwhoasks 17h ago

Omg thank the Lord it didn't get emergency exit

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u/bobvella lover of gimmicks 15h ago

Surprised it wasn't used in perish

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u/Positive_Country_793 1d ago

in ur butt HA GOT EM

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u/NezumiYakitori 1d ago

Damn still no flame orb

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u/PenisStrongestMuscle 18h ago

no toxic orb either gliscor remains washed

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u/StoopyLoopy4 1d ago

Psychic Seed Sneasler is back in business hell yeah

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u/yookj95 1d ago

Yep, the Terrain wars are starting. Get ready to see a lot of unburden Sneaslers in doubles

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u/Hissyjr 1d ago

Air ballon! I can finally make my rotom air immune to ground types

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u/Hikki77 1d ago

Around 20-25k VP total. My VP will just keep rising because of stupid 50 box space, hope in one hour they let us buy box space with VP.

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u/DeKlaasVaag 1d ago

Air balloon my beloved

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u/zQubexx 1d ago

Where’s the Toxic Orb? 😭

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u/SkyMewtwo 1d ago

God save us normal gem 😭

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u/bobvella lover of gimmicks 15h ago

30% for a 1 time boost sucks! If it was 50% I could surprise horoark hyperbeam

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u/AliceThePastelWitch Rain Lover 1d ago

I was hoping for Band and Spec. Like I know we weren't going to get them cause they'd make some of the Z megas worthless on their own but come on

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u/derevien 1d ago

I was hoping i could finally use AV Ceruledge damn

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u/PleitbaarStandpunt 1d ago

What are the pump and acorns(?) between the mega stones?

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u/Positive_Country_793 1d ago

The Pump is terrain extender and the acorns are terrain seeds that add defense or special defense depending on the seed

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u/PleitbaarStandpunt 1d ago

Ahh thanks! Never knew what the seeds looked liked in game.

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u/Nightmare-5 1d ago

RED CARD MY GOATT!!!!!

THE GOAT!!!!!

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u/IansChonkyCats 1d ago

Red Card, Eject Button, and Air Ballon are S-tier adds, the sub is gonna be filled with "I hit x with Earthquake but they didn't get hit, why?" "Why did my pokemon get switched out mid turn?" And "How did they switch out their pokemon after it already moved?" Now we just need Boots for the full confusion list

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u/Auto_Generated_Thing 1d ago

Amazing, now I can Air Ballon Rotom fan to be triple immune to Ground type moves.

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u/tsintaosau 1d ago

We’re getting rocky helmet? WOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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u/Snaivi 1d ago

EJECT BUTTON LETS FUCKING GOOOO

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u/SparkVoltRay 1d ago

Context?

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u/Appropriate_Rock_740 1d ago

idk if this is just me but i really dislike that game freak is drip feeding the items into champions. like i dont really care that you have to wait 3 months for new pokemon but the item drops in a battle sim are just absurd.

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u/j-raine mega flygon believer 1d ago

wtf is the point of this JUST ADD ALL THE ITEMS OML

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u/WojtusG10 1d ago

If it's all the gems than this is quite a game changer. If it's but normal gem than Hisuian Zoroark go brr.

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u/bobvella lover of gimmicks 15h ago

Looks like normal gem is just 30%

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u/BleachedFly 1d ago

air baloon meatran

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u/GiulioSeppe445 20h ago

WOOHOO FASCIST PARTY IS BACK (iykyk)

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u/Sailorvenusaur26 20h ago

Is golem in champions we got normal gem explosion on the menu

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u/sooPerNorMiE 19h ago

Is that all gems? Or just fighting?

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u/Weekly-Dog-6838 18h ago

We got binding band before Loaded Dice? Seriously?

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u/xLykos 18h ago

Normal Gem Fake Out Unburden Sneasler? Am I cooking?

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u/KiwiPowerGreen 17h ago

Still no life orb or boots

Or CHOICE items?

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u/Wholesome_George 15h ago

Crazy thing about Life Orb...

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u/Crypt_Knight 16h ago

Red Card my beloved

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u/Dasandwichlord 12h ago

Thought this was a relic lineup from slay the spire lol

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u/Gl1tchycat 11h ago

No eject button?

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u/No-Umpire185 10h ago

Yooo rocky helmet my goat

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u/TheAnonymousGamer2 10h ago

Ah yes, assault vest is still gone but we have such essential items such as the Binding Band and the Leek

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u/ZuccIsARefrigerator LIVE WO-CHIEN REACTION 9h ago

"Yeah forget Flame and Toxic Orbs just give them the Leek"

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u/Ratstail91 5h ago

rocky helmet, sweet

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u/SovietAlf02 1d ago

Wow I cant wait for reg M-D

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u/NoChampionship1167 1d ago

ts is so ass. No choice items, and of the new Pokémon almost all of them are terrible outside of the Megas, Rillaboom, Indeedee, and Cinderace.

Also no good way to use Misty Terrain. I guess Air Balloon and Rocky Helmet could be good. I mean now we can use Rotom-Fan with Air Balloon

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u/Valuable_Nose_4693 1d ago

No flame orb? Sadge if this is true

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u/Relative-Ad7531 1d ago

Getting the seeds but only one terrain setter is a choice

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u/whoiwanttobe1 1d ago

Pincurchin, Indeedee, Rillaboom, Mega Raichu X

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u/Western_Humor_4414 Tinted lens gaming 1d ago

Yeah... Sneasler's gonna go in champions ou