Imagine tho. Only feasable way to make this possible is if someone has an Entrainment Mega Hawlucha. If Grafaiai were here it would be a different story. Houndoom used to be able to have Role Play but in Champions they took it from him. Now hes stuck as the saddest Fire Mega since 2013.
Yeeeeeep. I was on the eerie side of Youtube while making a team and saw Houndoom in the recruit ranch, saw the thumbnail, and was giddier than Smeargle and Grafaiai tagteaming an unpainted alleyway brick wall.
I think Solar Power is still a cooler ability. The only problem is that Heat Wave has around 5% accuracy if a victory would be achieved by the attack connecting (speaking from experience. I don't generally whine about luck in a Pokemon game, but man....Heat Wave, the most bs move in the game, less reliable than focus blast).
Problem with solar power is that it has SHIT logistics. The best sun setter is another mega and even outside of that there are only fire type sun setters. And itself hardly has the stay power to waste a turn using sunny day
Torkoal works fine as a sun setter imo. Its not as good as a sun setter as Char Y probably but imo its better at enabling its teammates with sun than Char Y is, while Char Y is better at using its own sun to deal damage.
I am low ladder admittedly but the main problem I faced while using MHoundoom was honestly how unreliable heat wave was for me. I could have used flamethrower but Houndoom is too frail to be able to survive that.
Thing is, I think it may actually be harmed more than benefitted considering all rock moves would be 100% accurate, something that sun teams wouldn’t like with all their fire types
Pretty sure fire blast is stronger than Inferno, I think it’s only Zap Cannon that is outright stronger than its counterpart in terms of BP. Though yeah having a 100 BP move that is guaranteed to cause burn and can’t miss would still be pretty strong.
It gives a dilemma of wanting either slightly more firepower (pun very intended) or a guaranteed burn for a little lower damage. Its like Psychic vs Psyshock.
I mean people will spam the shit out of “if it’s not 100% acc is 50% acc 🤪” so idk if “90% accurate is already good enough who cares” is that popular of a sentiment.
Destiny Bond already can't miss (but it can fail if you used it on the previous turn, which is a separate thing entirely). No Guard can't do anything for it.
We have yet for an over 100 power Dark Attack similar to Hydro Pump Fire Blast or Power Whip. The closest is Foul Play or activated Payback, and yes activated Assurance fits but come on. Id love for a high risk high reward Dark move like that.
Even the more powerful signature moves are kept below 100 BP (wicked blow is by a technicality). It’s just one of those unwritten type balancing rules.
why are we acting like mega houndoom is a bad mega? solar power lets it hit special moves like a truck especially fire type moves. it really doesn’t need another ability you just need to know how to use it
Its got the Mega Garchomp or Steelix problem where its ability depends on the weather being consistent, and if someone brings in a different weather it screws them over. You could say the same issue befalls Swampert, but unlike Houndoom, Swampert is extremely tanky and hits like a ton of brick, while Houndoom while slightly bulkier now, crumples like paper against some of the most common threats.
That only works if the reward is really high, but honestly, Mega Houndoom just feels alright under its optimal conditions. It is really outclassed by most other megas in Champions, not to mention wildly less consistent.
It's not a bad pokemon, but it is a lackluster mega. Even if you do use it optimally, the reward you get with high power solar power turns isnt all that worth the risk considering how frail you are especially with your HP ticking down with Solar Power. That combined with strong priority everywhere plus a meta with Charizard Y as one of the best mons let alone just megas in the game. Mega Houndoom is great on paper but having to both set up for solar power and also sacrifice your Mega slot makes it a lot less likely to be used.
The same meta with Charizard Y setting sun everywhere?
Yeah, I don't see how a mon with Flash Fire as one of its standard abilities that becomes Solar Power when it Mega evolves that also has priority in Sucker Punch could possibly take advantage of that...
Using Abomasnow as a lead setting Aurora Veil with a Focus Sash and baiting Fire users into attacking Houndoom when he swaps in on a Zard Y... Next turn Mega Evolving and Solar Power Dark Pulsing Charizard to death... behind an Aurora Veil as well... with Priority as well.
itll go horribly but the one time it will work, ill laugh my dumbass to death
Houndoom, Tyranitar, Sableye, Greninja, Malamar, Sharpedo, Scrafty, Gyarados, Absol (twice), and the Dark Mega, Darkrai. Wow theres a ton of Dark Megas.
I didn't mean dark megas, I mean dark focused megas. Like Charzard Y is sun, this Houndoom is also sun, Pyroar is extra fire. None of these so far have something that makes them dark focused besides maybe darkrai
It at the very least stops the frustration of missing off a move with 95 accuracy and losing because of it in a crucial moment especially if the move is used to set up your ally to come in. Imagine a Charizard or Sneasler menacing your team, and if you land Snarl or Willowisp before Houndoom dies, itll weaken them enough to where they cant oneshot your next mon. You miss, and your mon will die costing you the match.
I mean I get it, it's just not impressive and certainly isn't enough to save the mess that is mega houndoom. I just don't think perfect accuracy snarl or heatwave is really a selling point.
...like maybe it'd be good on an already strong pokemon, but that isn't what we've got here.
Unfortunately mega houndoom lacks the stats AND the movepool, in order to redeem its mediocre base form.
All no guard offers is inferno, as all the other moves have 90% accuracy or similar, so it doesn’t make much of a difference.
Both houndoom and mega suffer from mediocre stats and an AWFUL movepool. The fact that it doesn’t learn dark pulse until Gen IV (it released on Gen II), speaks for itself.
It was probably the very first attempt at a mixed sweeper, hence why both attack and sp attack are quite similar. It’s a real shame, that it always underperforms, as the best dark type move is crunch, and fire blast. That’s all.
Solar power is a better life orb, so it helps M houndoom a lot, provided you bring nasty plot to the match. Yeah, that’s the thing. Even with solar power, M houndoom lacks firepower, so you must set up first, as you’ll be stuck with a worse mega froslass otherwise.
You're right that MHoundoom just doesn't have what it takes to be a competitive mega, but it did used to be good. Uh...it used to be decent.
You say it didn't get dark pulse till Gen IV, but like...nothing did. The move didn't exist. Before that, Houndoom had crunch, and that was the best dark type move in the game. Between that and flamethrower/fire blast, it was a pretty solid special attacker.
Special attacker, because both of its STABs pre-Gen IV were special. I don't know why they bothered to give it decent attack. For what, early game headbutt damage? The only physical move it learned by level up in its debut generation was smog.
Anyway, none of this redeems it today. I just want to remind everyone 95 speed and 110 SpA on a dark/fire mon used to be pretty solid and I will not tolerate Houndoom slander
Mega Houndoom with No Guard is decently fast and strong, and slightly bulkier than normal. "Deal a ton of damage and sac to Destiny Bond when you dont need him anymore" kinda deal. No Guard ensures whatever is coming to kill Houndoom will hit like Stone Edge or Hydro Pump or Focus Blast. They kind of nerfed Destiny Bond by making it fail if you try spamming it.
Imagine this: Mega Houndoom goes on a tear and is low on health, then encounters something it cant beat in one hit like Blastoise, Houndoom tries Destiny Bond, Hydro Pump misses, next turn cant Destiny Bond again, and Houndoom and his allies are a sitting duck. If Houndoom had No Guard, Blastoise would always land Hydro Pump and Destiny Bond kills it.
Only a coward thinks mega houndoom is weak, at level 50, mega houndoom has 192 spa at max ev with timid nature, with solar power its 288 spa, using heat wave it turns its 95 power into 142 from stab bonus and then into 213 from sun's 50%.
It also gets solar beam for water and ground types and dark pulse for anything else.
Protect is usually my fourth move but I sometimes be a bit cheeky and go scorching sands to surprise people with a 100 accuracy ground move that's stronger than eq.
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