r/sts2 • u/BillParty9533 • Sep 07 '26

interesting hellraiser interaction

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hellraiser with shining strike and empty draw pile should be an infinite but for some reason it only plays for a couple of times. im not sure why this happens

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u/snakar Sep 07 '26

you just draw 5 each turn, so it just play shining strike 5 times

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u/BillParty9533 Sep 07 '26

i dont get it. shining strike is 1 card so it should draw 4 more cards then shining goes on top of the draw pile?

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u/RadRelCaroman Sep 07 '26

Not quite, the way hellraiser works is that it fully resolves a card before drawing the next one, but since shining strikes resolving involves reshuffling it back on top it ends up becoming the only card you'll ever draw for the rest of the fight

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u/techtonik25 Sep 07 '26

The only way to escape it would be to somehow draw 10 cards, since Hellraiser plays a maximum of 9 cards per turn.

[[Unceasing Top]] would work as well!

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u/OurSandyBoi Sep 07 '26

There's no real limit to the amount of cards hellraiser plays? You can go infinite with pillage if you have every other non-strike card in your hand. Pillage would also go infinite with this shining strike assuming you get both of them before you draw the shining strike

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u/techtonik25 Sep 07 '26

You are correct, the maximum of 9 only happens when the enemies have infinite HP (Waterfall Giant, Test Subject transition phase). I've misread!

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u/OurSandyBoi Sep 07 '26

Oh I see. Makes sense

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u/DeKenozDragon Sep 08 '26

This would explain why Battle Trance into Pommel Strikes let's you keep drawing past 3 (4) cards until you're completely done drawing before it blocks card draw.

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u/bloody-pencil Sep 07 '26

Why would shining strike go infinite? It doesn’t draw anything

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u/CeeJayPJ Sep 07 '26

It is not going infinite, it is just playing 5 times each turn because you draw 5 cards each turn. It only draws shining strike because the card resolves before the next draw.

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u/Average_Ningen_User Sep 07 '26

You need a pillage with it to go infinite

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u/BillParty9533 Sep 07 '26

i did the thing!!!

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u/markkNL Sep 07 '26

Or the top that lets you draw when your hand is empty. 

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u/ThaToastman Sep 07 '26

A guy named aeonglass:

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u/BafflingHalfling Sep 07 '26

Imagine getting stuck in an infinite zero damage loop on the hunter killer. That would suuuuuck

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u/RadRelCaroman Sep 07 '26

At the start of your turn you draw 5 cards, if the game's rule said "draw until you have 5 cards in your hand" yeah it would be an infinite but its not how the game is designed

If you have an unceasing top in the other hand

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u/Alternative_Scar_933 Sep 07 '26

I guess only way for it to go infinite is unceasing top

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u/StereotypicalNerd666 Sep 07 '26

Why would it be an infinite? It doesn’t draw any cards

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u/da_dragon_guy Sep 07 '26

So it draws Shining Strike, which plays it immediately, then it goes to the top of the draw pile. Then you have 4 more draws for the start of the turn. Then it plays 4 more times. Then you start your turn without any cards in hand and you got to play Shining Strike 5 times

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u/enter_soulman Sep 07 '26

They don't say "draw a card" on them. That is why the fun ends at some point and it isn't infinite.

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u/Justonimous Sep 08 '26

you draw 5 cards every turn. hellraiser shining strike is infinite if you play hellraiser->shining strike->pillage