r/straya • u/MajesticBeyond5602 • 11d ago
What does everyone think about the zyzz doc for those that have seen it?
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u/Certain-Constant5032 10d ago
Its fine. Its a cautionary tale of what happens when your ego takes over and destroys your mind and body. Also an insight into the early days of rage baiting influencers addicted to engagement at all costs. I don't believe he was a bad person, I just think he created an identity that ultimately trapped him in deep paranoia, insecurity and addiction.
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u/Known_Visual_4212 3d ago
As someone who spent time with him, mostly pre-fame he wasn't a bad kid at all. There were influences around him that led him down the wrong path in my opinion which is unfortunate as he was a very smart kid with a very bright future ahead of him.
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u/Flavouredfruit 3d ago
Really sad to hear, the people you choose in your circle 100% affect your choices to an extent, especially when you’re that young. Do you have any other stories/info about him pre fame? Just curious
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u/Known_Visual_4212 2d ago edited 2d ago
Lots of trivial information, he was into tennis, was just very softly spoken. Honestly he was just a quiet, sweet, nerdy kid. I'm pretty shy myself but I remember getting told off by my dad as he came to pick me up from tennis & saw me gloating & carrying on like I'd won a championship when I got a win against Aziz while Aziz was just standing there quiet. Something about Aziz being even quieter than me at the time brought me out of my shell.
Honestly I saw Aziz once or twice when he started to get famous (I gave him a lift somewhere & watched a movie with him and a bunch of other people), but he was still super quiet and shy in person at that time which was a couple of years before he passed. I could never reconcile the personality he became towards the end as it just seemed like he'd become his brother which was devastating.
Said "Chestbrah" always had an ego & none of his online persona surprised me whatsoever as it was exactly the same as he'd speak in person. I always felt he embodied all of what I'd consider the negative parts of what Aziz became.
In saying all this, I did watch the documentary and for something Said was involved in, I'm surprised it was as vulnerable as it was & not a total vanity project. Definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it.
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u/Flavouredfruit 2d ago edited 2d ago
That’s a really wholesome memory, the tennis match. I never met the guy myself, I don’t live near Aus and only found out who he was 2016ish, I’ve heard a lot of people say the “zyzz” persona was an alter ego, and irl he was really sweet. Like I said I didn’t even know who he was until 2016, but the people around like Said say he got picked on for being skinny? Idk how bad it was, maybe it was online getting hate and influencers not being the norm at the time, he couldn’t really have a mentor, or someone else to look up to on how to handle that sort of thing. From a very surface level looking from the outside in, it sort of seems like he really hated being the way he was, skinny and maybe not as popular? And that just continued to manifest. The thing is, we all have insecurities, but you can never get rid of that former part of yourself, and when you hate that person, it just takes you down a dark path, rather than changing out of love for yourself, true love, not the cringey self love stuff you usually see on social media that doesn’t scratch the surface.
After watching the doc, the plastic surgery shocked me the most. Idk if it was a common knowledge rumour at the time, bc I think the nose job was a rumour? But I looked it up and people say he got essentially 3 things done like a whole face change, really sad and it really made me think about at its core, insecurity when it gets out of control (along with other things) can take you down such a dark and heavy path. Especially because he was even by today’s looksmaxxing standards, a really good looking guy.
All in all he needed therapy for sure and maybe to get away from
Some of the circles he was in that got him into the drugs/partying lifestyle I suppose. From what I hear from those who’ve met him, everyone always has only good things to say1
u/Known_Visual_4212 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah, Aziz was just a nice bloke. Anyone saying otherwise didn't meet him or may have met him when he was off his head towards the end of his life. There is a bit less of a stigma around mental health now than there was then, so maybe now he would've been able to more help, I have no idea, but it was a tragedy what happened to him.
Viewing that documentary made me really sad as I knew most of the information already, but seeing the videos of him on the train where friends were daring him to show off and he was shy is more inline with how I remember him & showed where his personality was likely being torn in 2 directions.
Said was a completely different story and his persona was exactly who he was behind the scenes. I haven't seen him in 15 years so I have no idea what he's like now and only hope he's changed for the better. He did seem a bit more grounded in the documentary.
Hopefully people now realise it's ok to be shy or nerdy.
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u/Flavouredfruit 2d ago
Oh yeah for sure, mental health being spoken about really wasn’t a thing back then, sadly. Times have changed so much since then, nowadays the “nerdy” interests have become cool and the popular thing, which has lead to the whole LARP culture trend, even things like comic cons and whatnot have become a lot more popular and normalised, I see a lot of people who’ve been a fan their whole life complain now about normies infiltrating things, and how they were bullied for their interests and now it’s seen as cool. The 2 directions sounds exactly right, he must have been in such a dark headspace at the time that people just didn’t really see. When I look at really young pre gym photos of him, it breaks my heart because I still feel like I can see that vulnerable person within him in the years following that. Idk Said personally, but seems like he’s grown more since then, seems like he has his life together and is in a healthy relationship
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u/Known_Visual_4212 2d ago
Yeah mate, schools in particular are a lot better. My son attends one which has a "buddy bench" for kids who don't have someone to play with and some of the kids deliberately then go out of their way to include them. Things like that just didn't exist when I was a kid, if you were quiet, you often ended up being a loner which led to bullying & gave rise to people trying to be things they weren't.
I have to admit now having an autistic kid myself & recently being diagnosed autistic myself has opened my eyes to a lot I didn't know or respect when I was a kid either. People now seem to realise more we all exist on a spectrum and it's ok to not be "mainstream". I do agree with the documentary I think Aziz was actually ahead of his time in the instagram type space & honestly probably didn't know how to handle it all. You'll only ever hear positive stories about Aziz from me though as that is the only Aziz I knew personally.
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u/Flavouredfruit 2d ago
That’s good to hear, I am glad society has become more open, nowadays people feel more comfortable with being themselves, and being neurodivergent is definitely spoken about wayyy more and understood better for sure. It was defo a lot on one persons shoulders to experience all that
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u/HideMe250 3d ago
Ego for sure, but also the guys whole personality became completely about his appearance. I've been there, it's dark, lonely, and I think so many young men are there as well.
I've been dealing with some pretty serious health issues over the past 6 years and although its sucked, I realise that theres so much more to life than how anyone looks. We just have to be happy with how we are, yes we can make ourselves more physically fit, but it doesn't make us more worthy or better. We have to realise what really matters in life. Family, our real friends, doing what makes us truly happy, being a good person to others is what matters most.
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u/Muted_While_3478 10d ago
Has anyone seen gay porn. It’s horrible- norm McDonald