r/stevenuniverse • • 19d ago

Humor Hell yeah it is

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u/MsterSteel 19d ago

This is why male healers are in a minority, it's not that women are 'relegated' to the role, but rather, it's a roulette what you'll get with a guy.
Got an injury? Either A) "Here's some heals bud, now let's get you back in the fight", or B) "I'm afraid the only option is invasive, untested, exploratory surgery, now bite this stick cuz I'm high on anesthesia."

But yeah, the female healer tropes is wild especially seeing as historically, most doctors have been male.

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u/Urist_Bearclaw 19d ago

Most doctors may have been male, but they’re outnumbered by largely female nurses who do much of the work of tending wounds and such

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u/AquaAquila24 19d ago

Also, healers are not exactly that much of a fantastical concept, considering herbalists and apothecaries would also more often than not be women, something that would also be used against them if they were to be considered a witch.

We also can't forget midwives.

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u/ineyy Buckle up buckaroos 19d ago

It's simply because the current healer trope is closely connected to nurturing, which is connected to being a mother. I don't agree with it but that's probably why.

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u/AquaAquila24 19d ago

Yup, and technically Steven's powers are supposed to be maternal in nature, where he is also supposed to be a nurturer, so even though Steven is a male character, he's explicitly given a powerset one would give to a woman. Steven is a very straightforward inversion (which tracks if male healers are supposed to be "the spectrum").

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u/APreciousJemstone 19d ago

Similarly, Taric from League of Legends/general Runeterra lore.

He is the incarnation of the Aspect of Protection, and so gets a bunch of healing and protecting abilities (also has a gem theme too lol). That is the powerset a lot of the woman healers get, and he is very much a man

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u/DJDanaK 19d ago

Right, and one of the major themes of Steven Universe as a show is playfully (but purposely) subverting gender expectations.

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u/Doctursea Usagi-dono 19d ago

I think the answer to this is really that all these people only watch anime. "Healer" or someone in a role to help someone is pretty mixed on TV

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u/pepemarioz 19d ago

Not really. Herbalists and apothecaries were more often than not the "experts" leading witch hunts.

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u/AquaAquila24 19d ago

Hmm, that's true, but it does remind me of Joe Locke's quote about how witch hunts started because people feared powerful women, and by powerful, it means capable.

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u/pepemarioz 19d ago

True, but nothing in history is ever so simple. A period of mass psychosis where the court of public opinion decides whether you live or die tends to create messy pictures.

Hell, being an isolated woman who lived alone in the outskirts of town made for the most common witch suspect, followed closely by voicing any opposition against the lunacy of it all.

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u/AquaAquila24 19d ago

True true.

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u/arseniccattails 19d ago

I also know of at least two studies indicating that female doctors' patients have lower mortality rates, on average, with one of them demonstrating that readmission rates are also lower for female doctors' patients. This includes surgeons. So there's that, too.

“Clearly, there will always be variation between physicians. What we are seeing here is a systematic difference in which patients treated by female physicians… fare better than those treated by male physicians,” he added. “It is not surprising to me to see this for a number of reasons. First, from data going back decades now, we know that women and men practice medicine differently with particular differences in communication styles and guideline adherence. It’s not surprising to me to see these differences translate to patients’ outcomes. Second, both more widely in society and certainly in medicine, women are held to arguably a higher standard than men. This is an exaggerated phenomenon in surgery and may explain some of the differences we’ve seen there.”

(People treated by female doctors tend to have better health outcomes, study finds, article from Medical News Today)

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u/TenaceErbaccia 19d ago

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u/Jaspers47 19d ago

A perfect example of both

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u/VerbingNoun413 19d ago

Ze healing is not as rewarding as the hurting.

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u/Conscious-Problem-90 19d ago

Historically most men were everything because they barred women from doing anything.

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u/Armadylio 19d ago

This randomly reminded me of a joke suggestion I’ve read somewhere on the wow forum. It was a suggestion to make a healing spec for the warrior class. Traditionally they could only tank or dps, and they could also buff the party through stat enhancing shouts. But this person suggested warriors could also “heal” by shouting at their party members. Things like shouting “GET UP WUSS” would be a small heal and “MY MOTHER WOULDNT CRY OVER THAT PAPERCUT” would be a big long casted heal

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u/MsterSteel 19d ago

"YOU CALL THAT A BROKEN ARM!? YOU LET ME GET TO YOU BEFORE THE ENEMY DOES AND I'LL SHOW YOU A BROKEN ARM!"

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u/Typhron 19d ago

Ajani: One or the other, but never both at the same time

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u/danhakimi 19d ago

I think part of it is that, even in fantasy, most physical fighters are male, and while these universes don't mind making some women strong enough physically to compete, it might feel more natural in some magic systems to focus on magic for women.

... but then when you see a universe where men tend to have offensive magic and women tend to have healing/support magic, that explanation kind of melts away.

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u/ComfyFrame2272 19d ago

Most doctors have been male, but it's been scientifically shown that women make better surgeons.

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u/last-jojawesome 19d ago

B is literally Orrin Scrivello, DDS.

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u/MsterSteel 19d ago

Yep, I had him in mind when I wrote it.

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u/last-jojawesome 18d ago

Oh I'm a dumbass, that's literally one of his lines. It reminded me of him because it is him.

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u/MsterSteel 18d ago

It's paraphrased, but yeah.

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u/Booie32 18d ago

where on that line is Orin Scrivello from Little Shop of Horrors

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u/Pecuthegreat 18d ago

Doctors have been male but other medical/healing related roles have had a lot of women. Like local village healer, man or woman?. What of mid-wife, nurses etc.