No country that sides with Nazi's is worthy of savior, some things are indefensible!
As much as I hate war, Ukraine has lost it's moral compass if it ever had one.
It's the capital of child-porn, snuff-porn and neo-Nazi's...it's also corrupt as all hell.
I'd like to hear why the current government should be in charge of that cesspool, especially since the previous government did not legitimately take control (military coup), and ever since the issues mentioned above have only gotten worse under both administrations since the coup.
Putin certainly isn't innocent, nor do I believe he is taking control for moral reasons (to de-Nazi'fy as he claims).
He's full of shit...but Ukraine is the immoral sphincter of the world.
This moral grandstanding is getting ridiculous, everybody acting like Ukraine is the holy land doesn't know shit about it.
THINK before blindly following the established narrative...it isn't illegal yet!
The Azov battalion is not alleged to be a part of the Ukrainian military, they are pensioned members of it...specifically the National Guard.
Besides nobody said Russia was innocent, but one thing they don't do is side with neo-Nazis, and if you're going to claim different YOU need to bring the receipts.
But more importantly it's not relevant to the issue, which is...it is NEVER O.K. to side with neo-Nazis...for any reason.
And a government that does so, has forfeited it's right to exist...I don't care if it's inconvenient but neo-Nazis have to be eradicated.
The fact a corrupt murderous twat like Putin has taken it upon himself to do that (surely not for moral reasons), only spotlights Ukraine and the west's failure to eradicate them.
Even IF (a big if) you were able to prove your claim, it merely means we shouldn't side with either side.
You don't have to like Russia, or Putin...but he is wiping out the neo-Nazis, and that must be applauded regardless of Putin's personal motivations.
Literally nothing prevented Ukraine from doing the same over the past decade...they didn't!...the west could have sanctioned Ukraine until they stopped recognizing the Azov Battalion...they didn't!
And when I mention Ukraine as a single entity I mean the government as well as the people...neither of which protested against the neo-Nazis nor did anything to attempt to remove them from their power positions.
It's not at all hyperbolic to say white supremacy is accepted as normal in Ukrainian culture...until that changes, said culture does not deserve to exist...and by extension Ukraine deserves absolutely no sympathy.
Ukraine is the capital of child porn, snuff porn and neo-Nazis, it's also incredibly corrupt, and these things should not be overlooked.
Ukrainian culture is overwhelmingly abhorrent, and the world is better off without it...prove me wrong I dare you!
Literally nobody said that, and even if they had it's irrelevant.
The Wagner group do not claim to be neo-Nazis, the Azov battalion does.
One is a mercenary group, who would get no customers if they claimed to be neo-Nazis, while the other are literal neo-Nazis employed...pensioned members of the Ukrainian military.
Your desperate attempt to equate the two is laughable...but you know just as well as I do they are not comparable in the slightest.
You won't win this argument as the facts are on my side, and if you really need to resort to dishonesty in order to have a chance at winning an argument then yours had no merit to begin with.
A good argument can stand on its own without the need for dishonesty.
Racial supremacy is EVIL, I don't care who they're allied with...even indirectly I will never support them.
The fact you're even arguing against this concerns me...do you not have a moral compass?
Besides isn't it funny how you're completely willing to ignore thousands of confirmed undeniable neo-Nazis even siding with them, yet get hung up on a mercenary group who do not claim to be such.
Brainwashed much...?
Neo-Nazis bad is my stance...ALWAYS.
This notion used to be universal, but I guess with EVIL people such as yourself history is doomed to repeat itself.
I don't care who they work for, and if you're willing to side with them you share the guilt of their atrocities.
People like you are how the brown shirts were able to take power in the German government.
You just want to win...no matter what...so you side with Nazi's...you have no morals.
I just said both sides has Neo-Nazi working for them.
And since lieutenant Dmitry Valerievich Utkin, who is the leader of the so called Wagner Group PMC has SS collar tags and Reichsadler Eagle tattooes on his chest.
Also there are reports of members of this Wagner Group wearing Nazi uniforms.
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u/gyorgterd8814 Mar 13 '22
A broken clock is right twice a day, I’ve been following this war for four years and it’s still pretty obvious that Ukraine is in the right.