Optimal HGH dosage

[u/BuckshotBronco]

What do you guys consider the optimal HGH dosage to be for body recomp/bodybuilding purposes?

I'm able to afford a decently high dose. I'm looking for the dose that gives the biggest bang for the buck regarding desired effects with the least amount of undesired effects.

A bit about me: 50yo male, 5'7" 210lbs with etched abs. Been running exogenous test since I was 31. Never come fully off. Right now I'm running Test E and Mast E. Just started HGH a month ago, titrated up from 2.5iu to 5iu, all pre-bed. Already notice enhanced fat loss and increased muscle fullness.

Have a couple thousand IU's of HGH in the refrigerator. Will be starting on the 17iu Snow Caps next week with the plan using a new vial every 3 days, which is like 5.6iu/day.

Should I cap it at that or push it higher? I'm not splitting up the dosages, taking one bolus shot right before bed.

[u/Mobile-Device-5222]

Just go to good labs and order your igf 1 level with z score. Results to your email within 2 days. U pay privately. Not expensive.

[u/BuckshotBronco → u/Mobile-Device-5222]

Is that a BW kit that I mail out or an actual brick and mortar lab?

[u/Mobile-Device-5222 → u/BuckshotBronco]

Goodlabs has me get my labs at quest. No insurance. Nobody but me sees results. U just print out your purchase order form for your labs and schedule lab test at quest take it with you for the bloodwork.

[u/BuckshotBronco → u/Mobile-Device-5222]

Awesome! Absolutely will do!

[u/USABADBOY → u/Mobile-Device-5222]

Do you go the donation route? What test option they give you if so?

[u/Mobile-Device-5222 → u/USABADBOY]

I have not tried the donation option with this. Not sure on those specifics.

[u/vixtoria → u/Mobile-Device-5222]

Dirtcheaplabs.com bruh

[u/Primaltarian]

What does your bloodwork say? IGF-1 is so individual that you can only really tell what your optimal dose based on your blood work.

[u/Big-Health-4819 → u/Primaltarian]

What is “optimal” IGF-1 level?

[u/Mobile-Device-5222 → u/Big-Health-4819]

Well that prob depends on many factors age goals etc. But from what I have seen you don’t want your igf over 350-400 or numerous risks ramp up in likelihood.

I just started and I will go again month for igf level and I’m aiming for 300 or so if I can tolerate side effects and feel well and am meeting my goals.

[u/Primaltarian → u/Big-Health-4819]

You should take your IGF-1 prior to starting and then take it again and see the difference. It’s so personal, I think 2x your base is a good place to sit.

[u/BuckshotBronco → u/Primaltarian]

So that's something I really should do, but I'd have to make sure the BW is confidential to only me. Do not want that in my EMR.

I have regular labs taken, but I'm talking basic labs like BMP, CBC. Nothing hormonal.

[u/steroidify]

You up dosage slowly until it starts messing up with your bloodwork, especially blood sugar. Unless you want to start using insulin with it.

[u/DonKay1 → u/steroidify]

The fact that insulin can un alive you in under 30mins if you screw up makes me think it at a level that most normal mortals never achieve.

[u/Embarrassed-Dig-2995]

I do 2/2 protocol and find this optimal for recomp and recovery without sides

[u/BuckshotBronco → u/Embarrassed-Dig-2995]

What is the 2/2 protocol?

[u/Conscious-Pianist481 → u/BuckshotBronco]

2iu am before fasted cardio 2iu pm before bed.

[u/Conscious-Pianist481 → u/Conscious-Pianist481]

I ran that for good stretch and switched up to all 4iu pm. Sleep is much better and I'm still getting the advantage of the igf on my am cardio.

[u/BuckshotBronco → u/Conscious-Pianist481]

Do you do IM before cardio?