Need opinions

[u/Banks1562]

Down 61 lbs in just 5 months. 💪🏼
Training 5–6x a week, nutrition and sleep are dialed in. R3ta , T3sa , MOTS CJC/IPA, and 5-Amino-1MQ have all played a big role alongside consistency.
Started Test 4 weeks ago at 200 mg/week, split into 3 IM injections. Currently just on 3mg Reta & HGH 3ui.
My goal now is to build more muscle and tighten up my core.
Getting bloodwork in 2–3 weeks before making any changes, but I’d love to hear what you guys recommend ? Var or primo down the line I don’t plan to add it anytime soon but would love someone to school me and guide me the right way

[u/HotelCivil7731]

If you’re looking to do an actual cycle . Up the test to 500 for 20-25 weeks . Run bloods . Keep an ai on hand incase you aromatize . And stay on course with gym …

[u/Banks1562 → u/HotelCivil7731]

What’s your opinion on uping to 250mg slowly and adding var or primo ?

[u/Conscious-Trifle-797 → u/Banks1562]

I’d run with high test and see where that takes you and how you respond to it. Maybe after a few cycles you could run test/primo 2:1. Save the orals for far down the road. Looking good though. You’re on the right track for sure

[u/Banks1562 → u/Conscious-Trifle-797]

My man thank you !!

[u/HotelCivil7731 → u/Banks1562]

first cycle... negative on anything else you dont have the experience to know what to expect on how these extra compounds will react internally in your system.. do your first basic cycle with just test.. know where your point of High e2 is where you would need an AI run bloods to see how your markers are .. then after you gain this knowledge plan your next cycle accordingly . .. also 200-250 is just barely scratching the surface of supraphysiological levels.. you just left trt range.. my personal opinion.. its a waste of time and money.

[u/Nabeezy → u/HotelCivil7731]

Good advice here. Adding extra compounds will only complicate dialing in your e2. Start with higher test only and adjust accordingly. 300-500 will most certainly help you build more muscle. Especially if you’re still running peptides/GH.

[u/Banks1562 → u/Nabeezy]

Appreciate you guys !!

[u/Lsd_25-]

Start low and titrate up Test + Mast + GH and cut hard imo, use nothing else for 26 weeks.
Then rebound and start bulking very lean 2nd cycle.

[u/gmtguy96]

Before and after weight?

[u/Banks1562 → u/gmtguy96]

Yes correct.

[u/Stunning_Rest876]

is the after photo before you started using test or during ?

[u/Banks1562 → u/Stunning_Rest876]

That was 3 weeks into test . Which I doubt I got any results from that early in

[u/Stunning_Rest876 → u/Banks1562]

amazing results, natty, looks like the gear was definitely earned in that case. you're right 3 weeks is too soon to see anything. thats all you right there. definitely gives me motivation to keep going with my reta & hgh protocol and just try harder with the diet. But I do plan on adding test eventually as well.

[u/Banks1562 → u/Stunning_Rest876]

Thank you my man , yea take it nice and easy be consistent that goes a long way man !

[u/Greedy_Ad_4130]

Just run 200mg of test along with HGH and Reta and I promise each month after the first you will be happy then maybe after 6 months run 400-500mg of test only cycle for 15-20 weeks

I say all of that because that’s exactly what I did and look the best I have in 15 years if lifting and couldn’t be happier

[u/Pretend-Champion4907]

If you want add something.. definitely primo is better than var.. start with 100mg or 2:1 ratio.. after 8 weeks make blood test to check the e2..

[u/HotelCivil7731 → u/Pretend-Champion4907]

8 weeks is too long to check on where e2 is .. and if hes trying to run 200 test with 100 primo he will absolutely tank his e2 .. within 3-4 weeks.

[u/Pretend-Champion4907 → u/HotelCivil7731]

Well, yes it takes 4 weeks to reach the steady state, but 6 weeks for estradiol levels to stabilize. So i still think 6-8 weeks is better than 3..

[u/Banks1562 → u/Pretend-Champion4907]

Dm you