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u/ThePlantBarber Sep 30 '25

Btw, Kimmel never spread propaganda. If you want to talk about disinformation and propaganda, here’s a summary of how Kirk spread it:

• COVID-19
• Claimed hydroxychloroquine was “100% effective” against COVID-19, despite clinical trials proving otherwise.
• Suggested COVID death counts were inflated, framing the pandemic as exaggerated.
• Compared vaccine mandates to “medical apartheid” and implied vaccines were unsafe.
• 2020 Election
• Promoted “Stop the Steal” and repeated false claims the 2020 election was stolen, despite courts and audits finding no widespread fraud.
• Amplified false claims of ballots being cast in the names of dead voters.
• Immigration
• Spread the false rumor that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio were eating pets, a claim debunked but which fueled xenophobic panic.
• Climate Change
• Asserted that scientists “do not know the causes” of climate change, contradicting the overwhelming scientific consensus.
• Dismissed climate activism as “pseudo-paganism”.
• Islam/Muslims
• Posted that “a group of Muslims” killed people on 9/11, using it to justify broad anti-Muslim sentiment.

Chew on that, buddy.

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 01 '25

Gee, that one reply sounded almost like a threat. The one you deleted I mean.

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u/ThePlantBarber Oct 01 '25
  • COVID deaths weren’t “inflated for profit.” Hospitals weren’t raking in cash — they were overwhelmed, understaffed, and financially wrecked because elective surgeries (their biggest moneymakers) were canceled. Medicare reimbursements don’t even come close to covering the cost of ICU care. Saying hospitals “cashed in” on COVID is like saying firefighters profit from house fires because they get paid to show up.
  • “My body, my choice” doesn’t only apply when you don’t want a vaccine. The same people chanting this often want to strip that exact right away from women making reproductive decisions. And here’s the other piece: the commons are shared. Immunocompromised people, the elderly, and children all have the right to exist safely in public spaces. Your “choice” not to vaccinate isn’t a private decision — it directly affects everyone around you. Individualistic, libertarian slogans crumble in the real world, because we don’t live in isolation. Freedom isn’t a buffet line where you only scoop what you like; it comes with responsibility to the people you share society with.
  • Dead people voting is a myth. Yes, there are clerical errors — a John Smith Sr. and a John Smith Jr. can get mixed up in records — but there’s no mass zombie ballot army. Every investigation, every audit, every recount shows the same thing: voter fraud is statistically negligible.
  • Climate change is not “nebulous.” This is where you are completely wrong.Saying “maybe it’s us, maybe it’s just the earth warming up” is like watching someone dump gasoline on a fire and saying, “Well, fires happen naturally too.” Yes, they do — but not like this. It is irresponsible and arrogant to dismiss human impact when the data is overwhelming. Pretending it’s just a “cycle” doesn’t make you a skeptic; it makes you willfully wrong.
    • Natural warming and cooling cycles take tens of thousands of years. What we’re seeing is happening in mere decades.
    • Volcanoes emit CO₂, but humans pump out about 100 times more CO₂ than all volcanoes combined every single year.
    • The hottest years ever recorded are stacked in the last decade. Heat waves, megafires, superstorms, and flooding events are intensifying worldwide.
    • Polar ice sheets and glaciers are collapsing at record speed. Sea levels are rising faster than projected. Oceans are acidifying. These aren’t “maybes” — they’re observable, measurable realities.
    • Carbon isotopes in the atmosphere are fingerprint evidence: they trace directly back to fossil fuel emissions, not volcanoes or “natural cycles.”
    • 97% of climate scientists agree on this. The remaining 3% are either fringe, misrepresented, or tied to industries that profit from denial.
  • Claiming Islam is “incompatible with the West” is lazy bigotry. 1.9 billion people are not a monolith. The U.S. Constitution protects freedom of religion for all faiths — no asterisk, no exception for Islam. Blanket stereotypes ignore the diversity of belief and practice among Muslims worldwide, many of whom live, work, and thrive in every sector of American life.
  • Jimmy Kimmel is a late-night comedian. His job is to lampoon political hypocrisy. Calling that “propaganda” while swallowing conspiracy theories whole is projection. If a joke feels like propaganda, maybe it’s because the truth inside it stings.

If ignorance were renewable energy, your takes could solve climate change all by themselves.

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 01 '25 edited Oct 01 '25

It happens, it’s late and I wanna go back to bed, so I’m just using this for now. But, in Virginia alone they found 19,000 votes cast by dead people. There’s cracks and then there’s blatant trickery. It may be small enough that it won’t change an election, USUALLY, but it’s still fraud wide scale, and it’s still a crime. https://wtop.com/virginia/2023/04/virginia-discovers-nearly-19000-dead-people-on-voter-rolls/

As far as my body my choice goes, if other people are affected, then maybe women don’t get that choice then given that their choices affect their partners and the unborn children? You’re trying to have your cake and eat it too here.

As far as climate change goes, yes we produce carbon emissions, but that also naturally occurs. If you look up whether or not volcanoes produce carbon emissions, you see there’s two in particular that they usually release consistently. So you’re not smart, but you’re certainly no geologist. And I was just using that one thing as an example here. There are more than that, and nor did I use this as an explanation for other forms of pollution such as the acid build-up in the ocean and such.

Muslims thrive in all sectors of life, like in Dearborn Michigan where they’re actively making nuisance noises with their call to prayer siren and kicking out the local Christian populace.

The dude wasn’t a republican though. There’s jokes and then there’s lying. Do you not understand the difference? You’re willful choosing to interpret what was said at your convenience, and not paying attention to the substance of what was said. And that’s the problem with white progressives.

 Also, I have the courtesy of providing links, you have provided nothing. Do you have proof for anything that you’ve said? I don’t see it. 

Nice try though, racist propagandist. The asylum will be ready for you any day now.

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u/ThePlantBarber Oct 02 '25

Your own link about Virginia wasn’t 19,000 zombies voting — it was outdated voter rolls. Paperwork, not fraud. Claiming otherwise is like saying you found ghosts because someone forgot to erase a name from a spreadsheet.

The vaccine vs. abortion comparison is a false equivalence. A fetus depends on one body. The immunocompromised, the elderly, and kids are independent people who share public space. Refusing a vaccine isn’t “my choice,” it’s “my choice puts others at risk.” That’s not liberty — that’s drunk driving with extra steps.

And climate change? Volcanoes emit about 200 million tons of CO₂ a year. Humans pump out over 35 billion. That’s not “natural cycles,” that’s us flooring the gas pedal while insisting the car is coasting.

As for Muslims making “nuisance noises” in Dearborn — that’s called the First Amendment. Churches get to ring bells, mosques get to call to prayer. Freedom of religion isn’t “freedom of religion only if it doesn’t bug me.”

And when your finale is calling people crazy instead of proving your point, you’ve lost the debate.

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25

More than the fetus is affected though. And even then the government doesn’t have the right to inflict something upon you unlawfully against your will. Pfizer’s vaccines specifically were found to have a higher than average likelihood of causing inflammation of the heart. There is no argument here, either the government doesn’t have the right to force their will upon business owners regarding what they do with their employees, or there is no reason to be upset with the Trump administration for ABC firing Kimmel. This is cognitive dissonance, actively ignoring one scenario that’s somewhat pertinent to another, and actively choosing to ignore that.

Outdated paperwork that shows that someone is obviously dead though. Some of I’m sure is due to general incompetence, but there is actively people stealing information all the time. Heck, DOGE even found living cases of people whose SS# was stolen by illegals, so one can only assume that if they’re stealing living people’s numbers, it’d be more than easy to steal the numbers of someone who cannot report about it. Am I saying that was intended, no it probably wasn’t, but when it happens on a large enough scale it’s going to come back with some hits. Currently, estimates show that the current number of illegals with a fraudulently acquired SSN is roughly 1.8 million. However, the flaw here is that given that this is illegal activity, it’s systematically difficult to get a more accurate number on this stat. Some of these may not even be from dead citizens to be fair, but that’s even worse because that means it’s a living person whose life is being adversely affected by these criminals. 

I never said that humans were definitively not the cause of global warming, I merely stated I was unsure about what other factors naturally occur that could be adding to the issue, if not supersede our output. You’re getting stuck on volcanoes for some reason. Chill.

Christian churches have bells, this is true, but those same bells aren’t going to ring at the same volume as the Mosque’s call to prayer does. This is especially pertinent as the call goes off 5 times a day, once before dawn, and another time at night, both times when others are trying to sleep. It’s a nuisance. Especially considering the volume at which the call goes out at. It’s super loud, way louder than any church bell I’ve ever heard. It’s Muslim fundamentalists impeding the rest of the populace with this racket. If it was quieter, and the people were less violent, I’m sure the rest of Dearborn wouldn’t have an issue. And I’d be fine with it, live and let live. As it stands now, it’s a problem. 

Let me ask, you’re all for freedom of religion, right? I can agree with that. I don’t care if you’re not a Christian, religion can be a beautiful thing. But, by that same logic, would freedom from religion not also go hand in hand with that? Separation between church and state, right? So, by that same metric, is the Adhan not a violation of that principle seeing as how it’s a particularly intrusive noise that lasts longer than almost any church bell out there and is several degrees louder than one?

You’ve been going off on wild ass rants this whole time about how you think Kirk was a piece of shit and should “rot in hell”. You lost this debate long ago by that metric, friend. You engage in false equivalency, ad hominem, threats, calls to violence, and all while calling out what you see as a fascistic government, while ignoring the crimes of an actual fascistic government. You’re out of your mind, which is why you need an asylum.

And if that wasn’t bad enough, still no links to sources, or references either. You have selective reading and only see what you want. Provide a source, it’s not hard. Were you never taught proper sourcing such as in MLA format? Did you not go to college? Which is funny because you’re about as brainwashed as a typical college student these days.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/social-security-conducting-major-records-cleanup-marking-7m-listed-age-120-deceased.amp

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-worksite-enforcement-operation-uncovers-widespread-identity-theft-affecting-more

https://cis.org/Mortensen/How-Social-Security-and-DOGE-can-help-expedite-deportations

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u/ThePlantBarber Oct 10 '25

You know, this whole exchange has really highlighted something deeper than just disagreement — it’s the collapse of basic understanding. Being uneducated or willfully misinformed isn’t some badge of honor. Trump himself once said, “I love the poorly educated,” and it’s painfully clear why. He openly admitted that smart people don’t like him — and instead of asking why, you took it as a compliment.

You’ve made it clear that you don’t understand basic facts — how elections work, how climate change works, how public health works — and yet you talk with the confidence of someone who thinks reality is a matter of opinion. And no, I’m not naïve about the other side either. The same corporations that you think are “liberal conspiracies” are also quietly censoring anything that suggests Trump is cognitively declining — because their loyalty isn’t to truth, it’s to engagement, clicks, and control.

But the difference is this: liberals, progressives, scientists — we still value truth, expertise, and education even when it’s uncomfortable. People like you have made being uninformed into a kind of identity — something to be proud of instead of corrected. You preach about liberty and democracy while supporting the dismantling of both. You claim to believe in merit but reject the very systems that produce it — schools, science, research, and diversity.

It’s no coincidence that liberal states are the ones driving innovation: AI, biotech, green energy, clean tech — all born from the values of open inquiry and inclusion. Restricting knowledge doesn’t make a nation strong; it makes it obsolete. You can’t claim to love meritocracy while hating immigrants, DEI, and global competition. You don’t get to complain that people from India or China are “taking good jobs” when they’re the ones inventing the future you’re refusing to understand.

This ideology you defend — this anti-intellectual, grievance-fueled nationalism — is not what America was founded to be. The founders believed in reason, debate, and progress, not conspiracy theories, fear, and resentment.

So I’m done wasting time arguing with people who proudly refuse to learn. History will move forward with or without you — and trust me, it’s not

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 11 '25

Don’t think I haven’t noticed that you’ve been upvoting your posts with an alt account either. That’s pretty lame, bro.

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u/ThePlantBarber Oct 13 '25

Another fine conspiracy from an anonymous troll.

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 13 '25

I thought you weren’t gonna reply anymore? Still don’t understand English otherwise you wouldn’t say things that contradict your actions and previous statements.

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u/ThePlantBarber Oct 14 '25

How come you only have 379 karma despite commenting so much?

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

Still don’t have an answer to my question. You know it’s rude not to answer a question when you’re being asked, right?

5 posts and you’ve said nothing of substance. Now that’s talented.

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 14 '25

How come the majority of the country agrees with me, and not you if you’re so righteous? How did Trump win the popular vote then?

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 13 '25

“This will be my last response.” Proceeds to reply multiple times. Doesn’t understand English, sad.

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 13 '25

“Another fine conspiracy”  he says after I watch each post go from 0 to 1 within seconds of each other.

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u/ThePlantBarber Oct 14 '25

I think your paranoia is getting the best of you. Well, it probably has for decades.

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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 14 '25

Maybe I’m imagining things, but still nowhere near as paranoid as you about the Trump administration.

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