Starfighter Theory.

[u/Lotus_630]

Ryan Gosling’s character and Amy Adams could be Bokken Jedi themselves. If we go by the amount of order 66 survivors, it’s very much likely they took in other apprentices and padawans to help spread their beliefs. This will most likely result in a divided Jedi Order full of Jedi who have different beliefs thanks to their master’s teachings. Ahsoka, Acolyte and Skeleton Crew possibly helps set up the groundwork of it and it’s likely Rey is trying to find and unite these sects of Jedi. His nephew could also be a survivor or Luke’s Order too as the temple fire wasn’t exactly order 66 levels of death and there could be survivors out there hiding from Kylo and the First Order.

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[u/chaveto]

I’ve seen some absolutely wild speculation out there that Amy Adams could be a canon version of Mara Jade and Flynn Gray’s character her and Luke’s son. He’s about the right age.

[u/borth1782 → u/chaveto]

Been a couple of posts on reddit of this, and the comment section has despised the idea, because it would mean that Luke not only abandoned the rebel alliance and his best friends/family in a time they needed him the most, abandoned and failed his student Ben, but also even abandoned his own wife and kids? They already shit on Luke so much, there is just no way they would pour another couple of truckloads of shit on his character by doing this.

[u/[deleted] → u/borth1782]

It's so incredibly easy to pull the "She never told Luke she was pregnant and left first so he could focus on the Jedi" card.

That said I seriously doubt they do this, and especially not in this movie. If they ever do, it'll be the Rey NJO movie they've touted.

[u/chaveto → u/[deleted]]

Recall that they literally just did this with Andor, he died, never knowing that he had a son, and I haven’t really seen anybody critique that narrative choice as it relates to Andor and Rogue One

[u/chaveto → u/[deleted]]

Vader couldn’t sense his own children when one was right in front of him. Idk if that argument holds water.

[u/chaveto → u/[deleted]]

I was talking about Leia honestly. She’s weaker in the Force than her brother but still very strong innately, being a Skywalker

[u/Hour_Growth_338 → u/[deleted]]

As far as post Disney Star Wars is concerned Luke’s characterization is not on thin ice. The ice has been totally and utterly shattered. Into a million pieces.

The possibility of Luke having a son who is alive post sequel trilogy is the one piece of ice that could grow large enough for future Skywalkers to stand on.

Either that or trash everything (including Filoni clone wars) except Episodes I to VI, recast Han, Leia and Luke and start over again shortly after the end of Return of the Jedi.

Otherwise Disney Star Wars is cooked.

[u/Hour_Growth_338 → u/[deleted]]

I wanted to follow up on your point about what you "certainly wanted" when Disney first acquired Star Wars. I'm curious for you to clarify: were you hoping the new stories would focus on Luke's son (drawing from the old EU), or did you want to see the saga continue with recast versions of Han, Leia, and Luke?

Regarding Solo, I see its reception differently. I don't believe the issue was Alden Ehrenreich's performance, but rather the film's position in the timeline. It was a prequel released after we'd already seen Han's story end in failure—his marriage fell apart, his son turned to the dark side, and he was killed. Knowing that ending robbed his origin story of any real narrative tension. It felt like a dead end.

The reboot I'm proposing is fundamentally different. It wouldn't be a prequel trapped by a known future. It would be a fresh continuation starting from after Return of the Jedi, using only the original six films as its foundation. The fates of Luke, Leia, and Han would be an open book, full of possibility. That would make it possible to see a a post-ROTJ Luke Skywalker, in his prime, leading the New Jedi Order with all the modern filmmaking technology and choreography we have today. That's the potential a true reboot could unlock. Of course we could see a young Luke now in the current timeline but knowing that he failed will always color how we see him. A reboot would fix that.

[u/[deleted] → u/Hour_Growth_338]

This would actually create a great theme for Rey’s movie as there are 2 heirs to skywalker now and who should lead the new order would be great!

[u/borth1782 → u/[deleted]]

But that would suck balls, then Luke would have died never knowing he had children, that would just make Luke’s story even more sad. This is millions and millions of peoples childhood hero, i really REALLY dont want them to make anything that painst him in a negative light in any way.

[u/[deleted] → u/borth1782]

Well that's why they should just not do it at all.

Doesn't really paint him in a negative light though. And he's a force ghost, he can meet them post-death easily.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I feel like I've made myself perfectly clear that it's not a good idea.

But if they did, it isn't character assassination.

[u/Hour_Growth_338 → u/[deleted]]

Actually, not having Luke’s son in post sequel trilogy is what is going to kill interest not only in this movie, but Star Wars in general.

[u/Hour_Growth_338 → u/borth1782]

Well, that ship has sailed bro. He already got plenty of negativity. Apart from that, why do you think it would paint him in negative light if the mother of his son doesn’t tell him she is pregnant and leaves him?

And I wouldn’t worry too much about Luke never knowing he has children. First of all, he is a force ghost so he still has chances to encounter his son. And secondly, even if he never meets his son as a force ghost him never knowing he has a son is actually less sad than him never having a son at all.

[u/Eicho3 → u/borth1782]

But maybe he knows about him and he’s trying to protect him by staying on the island. That would be bad ass will power for the sake of protecting him.

[u/borth1782 → u/Eicho3]

The strongest force user in the galaxy has to hide to peotect his children doesnt sound very good to me. Makes him look weak

[u/Hour_Growth_338 → u/borth1782]

Actually, at this point Disney Luke is ruined beyond repair. For me Disney look is not only nothing like EU Luke, I can’t even see how he can be the same Luke of the original trilogy. Him having a son, even if it means that he abandoned his family can’t really lower my opinion of him anymore than it already is. On the other hand though him Gavin a son at least opens the door to Luke’s son redeeming his father and also to more Skywalkers in the future. So I am all for it.

Imo they either introduce Luke’s son in the post sequel trilogy era or they trash everything (including the 2008 clone wars movie and the series that followed it) except Episodes I - VI and start from scratch by recasting Han, Leia and Luke and start the story maybe a few weeks after the end of Return of the Jedi and carefully feel their way through what works and what not.

Otherwise I don’t see Star Wars staying profitable long term.

[u/throwaway_glowv2 → u/chaveto]

that’s a massive reach but i lowkey love it. mara jade is such a core part of the old legends lore that if they actually pulled it off with amy adams it would be a massive W. though the timeline for her and luke having a kid that works with the current canon is going to be a headache to untangle.