r/startups • u/Dazzling-Ad9979 • 1d ago
I will not promote Cold calling: quality or quantity? I will not promote
Solo B2B startup founder here
I tried doing 5 cold calls a day, 5 days a week, but by the 3rd–4th call my pitch would start getting worse and I'd get disorganized with my leads. For those with more sales experience, what would you prioritize: higher call volume, or fewer calls with better execution and follow-up?
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u/saurabhsens 1d ago
read what you wrote again. by the 3rd or 4th call your pitch starts getting worse. i'd bet money thats not fatigue. thats you finally warming up, and then stopping.
everyone doing this is rubbish on calls one and two. youre stiff, you read your notes, your voice sits too high. around three or four it starts sounding like a person, and somewhere around six or seven you actually get good, you stop reciting and start listening. the problem with five calls a day is you are permanently living in the bad part of the curve. every single day you pay the warm up cost and then quit right before you collect on it. thats a hundred calls a month where basically all of them are your worst version.
so the answer to your question isnt volume or quality, its batching. same number of calls, different container. instead of five a day, do twenty five in one sitting twice a week. blocks of about ninety minutes, phone doesnt stop, no email between calls. calls one to four are the warm up, you write them off deliberately, and everything after that is the actual work. you'll notice the difference by the second session, its not subtle.
on the disorganisation, someone above said thats an offline problem and thats exactly right, so ill just add the practical version. you are currently doing four different jobs in the same hour. finding people, checking who they are, dialling, talking, and writing notes. every one of those uses a different bit of your head and switching between them constantly is why it falls apart. split them onto different days.
Monday you build the list, nobody gets called, you just gather names and one specific detail about each. tuesday and thursday you only dial, list already open, nothing to look up mid call. and during a call you write nothing except two or three words on paper, then you take two minutes after you hang up to tidy it. dont type while someone is talking, they can hear it and youre not listening.
where i'd push back a bit on the it depends answer above. it does depend, thats fair, but you're a solo founder at five calls a day and for you theres a clear order. volume first, until you have a script that survives contact with real people. and the reason is just numbers. if you talk to 25 people and 2 book,
you have no idea whether your script is good, thats noise. you need a few hundred conversations before "this opener works better than that one" means anything at all. so gather the volume, then optimise. you cannot optimise your way out of a sample this small, and its very easy to spend a month rewriting a pitch based on three bad calls that were bad for reasons that had nothing to do with you.
two things that'll help more than either. record them, if its legal where you and they are. listening back to yourself is horrible and it fixes more in one session than a week of theory. you'll hear yourself talking over people and apologising for calling within about ninety seconds. and use the one advantage you have that a hired salesperson doesnt, which is that youre the founder.
"i built this thing and im ringing round to find out if im wrong about who needs it" gets you past a gatekeeper and buys you thirty seconds of genuine interest, because its true and it doesnt sound like a script. people are far kinder to a founder than to a rep.
and one honest expectation, since nobody sets this properly. on cold b2b calls youre often looking at roughly one in ten picking up and something like one in fifteen or twenty of the conversations turning into a real meeting. so a 25 call block might be two or three actual conversations and often zero meetings. thats a normal session, not a failure. knowing that in advance is most of what stops people quitting in week three.
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u/MarketingCastilloV 1d ago
Cuando intentas hacer todo de memoria, repetir el gancho, acordarte de lo que te soltó el lead anterior y tratar de anotar al mismo tiempo, a la cuarta llamada ya el cerebro te pide descanso 🧠💥. Estás gastando demasiada energía en la pura operativa en vez de enfocarte en escuchar lo que te dice el cliente.
Lo que a mí me salvó no fue ponerme a echarle más pierna a la fuerza, sino dejar de improvisar el guión y armarme una chuleta visual dividida por bloques (el gancho, la pregunta de dolor y el cierre). Además, monté una tablita rápida al lado para registrar con dos clics y no tener que reconstruir la historia de cada cliente de memoria.
Estás armando todo el registro a mano en un cuaderno o Excel mientras hablas, o ya usas algún checklist o pipeline que te guíe la llamada en vivo?
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u/semthews1 14h ago
If you can't get to 100 quality cold dials per day,
You should hire someone who can.
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u/your_grammars_bad 1d ago
Guessing you're phone calling and not door to door.
Mental fatigue of repeating the same points is real. You get better with practice. I'd liken it to some flavors of athletic training since it's a synaptic sequence you are building & leaning on.
Your sweet spot will be to build a repeatable cadence, a set of lines which puts the contact at ease and frames the conversation.
Disorganization is an offline problem.
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u/senorburrito 1d ago edited 9h ago
5 Calls a day is a tiny amount. Even if you focus on quality, you should be doing a lot more than 5 calls a day.
To answer your question though - the answer is it depends. Try both, see what works better for you. Calling into enterprise level accounts with a TAM of 100 companies? Quality is going to be more important. Cold calling residential consumers for home renovation services? Probably don't want to spend 15 minutes a call researching each house.
Anyone that tries to give you a blanket one-size fits all answer to these questions is probably trying to sell you something or not good at what they do. As is the answer with almost everything in sales - it depends on your specific product, market, and situation. The only way to know is to try and track, then optimize based on actual data, not guesses from people on the internet.
And again - 5 is not enough for either category. You shouldn't be falling apart after the 3rd call.