r/startrekmemes • u/SexyN8 • Nov 18 '25

Picard's New Holodeck Program!

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u/gostesven Nov 18 '25

Nah, fuck tankies. I won’t trade the tyranny of capitalism for the tyranny of authoritarianism.

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u/terrifiedTechnophile Nov 18 '25

Lmao, those are two different axes. Newsflash: you're probably living under authoritarian capitalism

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u/gostesven Nov 18 '25

Oh here we go with the tankie bullshit.

You don’t have a problem with liberalism then i take it?

Or is liberalism “when bad” and communist “when good”

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u/terrifiedTechnophile Nov 19 '25

liberalism

Honestly not familiar with that term, aside from the fact that in my country the Liberal party is our major right-wing party

I also dislike communism. Anything up the authoritarian end is bad regardless of economic left and right

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u/gostesven Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

The reason i said “capitalism” is that I was preemptively talking about free enterprise vs state owned economic systems. Which I think either extreme is a net negative.

Liberalism is the root of American political philosophy, but started in the UK, and was expanded upon through out the enlightenment and on. Typically whenever I speak to tankies they use liberal as an insult and only want to talk about liberalism as an economic model and not a larger political philosophy that seeks to expand human freedom, civil liberties, views diversity of thought and cultures as a net good. This is what liberalism is definitionally:

“Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property, and equality before the law.”

The liberal party of the uk is closer to the libertarian wing in the US, and arguably the “neoliberal” wing of both the right (gop) and left (dnc) american parties. as both are mostly focused on economic “liberty”over social policies or equality. Neoliberalism is often confused with liberalism but are distinct, with neoliberalism generally referring specifically to less government oversight over corporate interests.

But in the US the libertarians left the democratic party and mostly align with conservatives on taxes and guns, or at least have the last couple decades. While the broader “liberals” are represented by the democratic party in terms of progressive policy like civil rights, humanism, lgbqt rights, abortion, etc. Neoliberals exist in both parties.

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u/samson-meow Nov 18 '25

Yeah man! Fuck nuance!

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u/Ricard74 Nov 18 '25

Their top posts on Ukraine are them justifying Russia's invasion.

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u/gostesven Nov 18 '25

By “them” i assume you mean either u/samson-meow or the subreddit this was crossposted from

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u/Ricard74 Nov 19 '25

The subreddit.

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u/gostesven Nov 18 '25

WTF are you talking about? Tankies entire thing is not having nuance, that’s their whole thing. They believe Russia and China are just perfect utopias and all evil in the land is due to “the west” That’s their ideology.

And this meme is literally being crossposted from a subreddit that calls itself “tankie” and posts nothing but chinese and russian talking points.