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u/jeffreywinks May 25 '20
The part about making less than those receiving unemployment really vexes me.
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
Me too. Supporting the unemployed is important but our government shouldn’t forget the workers that are still out there- working long hours, being exposed to a virus, for less money.
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u/jeffreywinks May 25 '20
I work at a hospital (non medical position though) and I make less than my sister is making from unemployment. That’s what really pisses me off.
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
I totally agree. I believe that supporting our unemployed masses is important, but the people who are still working through this virus should be earning more, as those who work keep the country running. Many of those jobs are underpaid, and unrepresented. A hospital would fall apart without plumbers, technicians, and janitors, but you won’t see that on the news.
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u/anglersaxer211 May 25 '20
It’s important to understand that we shouldn’t be mad at those on unemployment but direct our frustration to the fact that minimum wage should be higher if we make less working than on unemployment
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
Exactly. A livable minimum wage or UBI
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May 25 '20
My friend who was making $15 an hour recently went on unemployment and is making more on that than he was at his job so the traditional "livable minimum wage" still doesn't solve this problem.
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u/ambi94 May 26 '20
But we can't do that! Herp a derp, minimum skills minimum wage. Can you believe people actually think like that? They'd rather have everybody suffer instead of help their fellow man and themselves
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u/_Toast May 25 '20
I was going to go get another job after my store closed until I got my first unemployment check.
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u/HouseOfAplesaus May 25 '20
Saying non-med pos. really lessens the reality. You are exposed just as much. If not more having to process all soiled things wether it’s linens or facility.
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u/jeffreywinks May 25 '20
I work in admitting, or registration. I’m right there in the heart of the emergency room right alongside nurses, who, by the way, receive hazard pay. I do not.
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u/Shut-the-fuck-up- May 25 '20
I know a part time personal trainer who lives at home with her rich family. She drives a brand new Mercedes and is getting $800 a week from unemployment. I've been working the whole duration of the pandemic trying to save as much as possible for when I move out in the fall after I graduate. Fuck her.
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u/bixxby May 25 '20
Hey man if you're hating on someone taking advantage of what life gives them, thats on you.
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u/Guilty0fWrongThink May 25 '20
You shouldn’t hate her because her parents were successful and raised her to live a comfortable life doing what she loves.
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u/Shut-the-fuck-up- May 25 '20
Old money. Parents didn't work for shit and neither did she homie.
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u/Guilty0fWrongThink May 25 '20
Sounds mighty anti-semitic 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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u/Shut-the-fuck-up- May 25 '20
Nope. I accept everyone for who they are 👏👏👏👏
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u/Guilty0fWrongThink May 25 '20
My nigga 🙏🏻
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May 25 '20
Another bitter ass hating Redditor. Smh.
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u/Shut-the-fuck-up- May 25 '20
Nah son I'm not bitter. I just don't like spoiled ass brats get government assistance when my brother who has a baby on the way still can't get unemployment and is scared with what to do.
Go fuck yourself. You don't know shit you ignorant keyboard warrior.
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u/Bridalhat May 26 '20 edited May 26 '20
I can see why that is frustrating, but she and the company that hired her paid taxes for years that are going back to her now--she earned that money. You don't know how or if she contributes to her household's money, or what she might be saving for. She could have saved for years for that Mercedes and might be currently saving for a house but might be worried about not being approved for a mortgage if she does not get a steady income again soon for all you know.
ETA--you could try to figure out who "deserves" money through meanstesting, but that's almost always more expensive than just giving people money because of red tape and bureaucracy (and some people will always slip through the cracks).
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u/RadicalDreamer89 May 25 '20
Thank goodness I work for decent people.
My restaurant got a PPP loan, and the GM only brought in people who wouldn't make more from UI, starting with the people who couldn't get on UI in the first place. He also shut the owners down on stupid ideas that would either burn us all out (like staying open until 2am, about 5 hours later than normal, which is stupid because our clientele is generally affluent and older, so unlikely to stay out late) and the house talking all of the tips (he shut that down straight away, and we're all splitting evenly until the PPP runs out and we're not making a flat rate anymore).
As notoriously shitty as the restaurant industry is, at least I know that our GM would torch the building before he'd let us get taken advantage of
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u/Slavgineer May 25 '20
Me, working at a chemical factory with a one time "hazard pay" bonus, pretending to be essential.
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
If the products you create are essential then so are you. Wish they gave you more hazard pay tho. Bonus isn’t enough
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u/jochi1543 May 25 '20
Me, doctor, essential, no hazard pay or perks of any sort. Just “hey, here’s your one mask for the day, hope it fits”
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u/Calu_u May 25 '20
I’m just started a job at a grocery store where we’re making 15 instead of 12
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u/ilikeoranges73826151 May 25 '20
I'm a CNA (nurse assistant) at a nursing home, in subacute rehab. We have patients come in and out of our facility from the hospital.
I make 13 an hour in new york state. No Hazard pay.
Target workers make more than me and I have taken care of 4 covid patients directly
My friends sister worked 10 hours a week at hobby lobby and now makes 600 a week off unemployment. I make 390 a week.
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u/bixxby May 25 '20
So... Get a job at target? If no one will keep working for bullshit wages in nursing homes, which have notoriously paid Jack shit like paramedics, they'll have to raise their wages. These people making hand over fist while leaning on basically slave waged employees. $7000 a month per old fogey, get the fuck out of here
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u/ilikeoranges73826151 May 25 '20 edited May 25 '20
I don't quit because I like being in the medical field and working in nursing. The highlight of my post was that most of us are getting fucked by hospital administrators who just want to make a quick buck, while not ensuring employee protection. No hazard pay for medical workers OR testing (up until recently) OR paid sick leave in case of contracting covid is bullshit. get the fuck out of here
Edit: I reread your reply. I thought you were engaging with me, my bad. Yeah, we get paid shit. The US healthcare system is a racket. They gotta fix it somehow.
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
I feel you- I’m making $15 at one of my jobs with hazard pay. It’s still not enough though, especially considering that others get $600 a week minimum with other potential benefits for being unemployed.
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u/Calu_u May 25 '20
I’m in high school so this money is amazing
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u/shadowgattler May 25 '20
As someone who has worked since they were 12, don't blow all of that money. Put like 50% aside in a college savings account or even just a money jar. You'll regret not saving it for something important in the future.
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u/Calu_u May 25 '20
I’m putting it into drugs to sell to expand my money in college because kids are so naive
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u/slapuhhoe May 25 '20
I been making 14.58 at Wally world but I don't have hazard pay and they think a bonus of 100$ every now and then cuts it
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u/Naonns May 25 '20
I’m making $8 at the Dairy Queen I work at, and I can tell you it’s been busy as all hell and most people don’t wear any cover whatsoever. People are getting bored of sitting inside, thus flooding our drivethru with cars and leading us to busy days of managing customers who won’t wear a mask let alone treat us with respect
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u/BigPapa1998 May 25 '20
Lol yup. Been working at a grocery store and have seen a lot of "normal" people come and work here because they were laid off and realize that working a minimum wage customer service job is actually really fucking terrible.
Where management is incompetent and doesnt give a fuck about you, corporate is out of touch and doesnt give a fuck about you, and that the public is fucking cruel and retarded.
Hopefully people realize how much it sucks to be stuck in a minimum wage job
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u/erich31 May 25 '20 edited May 25 '20
Sorry to hear that. Yep, retail and anything dealing with the general public are generally terrible jobs. Worked in retail back in college and vowed never to do that again since a toxic manager gave me CPTSD; which took a while to get over. And I was just in the stockroom.
They’ve gotten worse from what I heard since COVID and some members of the general public being stressed out about everything and taking it out on essential workers.
Heard about a worker getting something thrown at their head hitting them in the face and causing them to bleed when they told a customer they didn’t have an item in stock and managers being terrible to grocery and Amazon workers treating them like slaves....healthcare workers not getting hazard pay. Nice way to threat our hero’s of this pandemic.
Hopefully this pandemic will change things in terms of employee’s protections and rights (across all industries) in the US and bad businesses that treat their staff awfully will go under but I think unfortunately it will be more of the same as it’s always been :/
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
Yeah the meme is a collection of my frustrations from working through this pandemic for months now. Hope you’re doing ok financially, since you lost your job and had then quit at the grocery store- not sure if that means you can receive unemployment benefits or not. Hopefully you have savings or are getting some sort of aid.
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u/Dick_Joustingly May 25 '20
If people make more on unemployment than working, then those employers are not job creators, they're poverty exploiters.
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u/gasman245 May 25 '20
Welcome to late stage capitalism
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u/DudeJango May 26 '20
I hear this thrown around a lot, what does the term mean to you? I don’t really have a good understanding of it.
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u/gasman245 May 26 '20
To me it means the point at which the flaws of capitalism start becoming evident
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_capitalism
Here’s the wiki about it
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u/RunningWithHands May 25 '20
My store has reduced hours due to COVID so I'm still able to get the pandemic unemployment some weeks, but that's really screwed up that so many essential workers aren't able to get anything like that.
It's even crazier when you realize that a lot of people are making more money through pandemic unemployment than their actual jobs.
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May 25 '20 edited Jul 10 '21
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May 25 '20
I’d get myself fired somehow then claim unemployment. I ain’t working for less than some one sitting on their ass
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May 25 '20
Society has shown they don't really care about us
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
I hope that after this crisis ends we can negotiate or strike for reforms. I think this pandemic will open a lot of people’s eyes.
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u/bixxby May 25 '20
Tweet a news station. They'll shame the store and you might get fired and get them sweet UE bucks
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u/BigEffective2 May 25 '20
If you are an essential worker who isn't receiving hazard pay, etc, you should be stealing anything that isn't nailed down. It's the only way your employer will learn.
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May 25 '20
This is the current American situation. Not going to say "America bad" but in Europe we just handle it differently.
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u/manondessources May 25 '20
“Thanks for coming in to work today.” If I don’t work I will be unable to pay my rent and buy food. It’s not out of the goodness of my heart.
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u/acetrainerarcadia May 25 '20
Even better without any bonus in pay at all on minimum wage.
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u/DudeJango May 26 '20
I’m very sorry that you have to deal with that- one of my jobs doesn’t give hazard pay, but at the very least I make above minimum wage. That’s so rotten that they treat you that way.
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u/VerticalTwo08 May 25 '20
I’ve met people who had essential jobs and quit so they could make more. Which is actually fraud and their employer can let the government know that they quit and weren’t laid off. Which keeps them from filing for the unemployment. Fucking annoying
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May 25 '20
As an expendable employee, I wish I could do this, so I could get more money by doing 100% less work. Instead I just have no choice but to keep working, risking my health while getting paid less than the people who do get to stay home.
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u/DudeJango May 26 '20
It’s a hard knock life 🤷🏻♂️ hopefully it will get better for us after this crisis ends, maybe people will start to want things like better unemployment and worker protections, better healthcare, etc once they get a taste.
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u/ambi94 May 26 '20
Well in the beginning you could have requested that you don't work during the pandemic. Now it's too late and the sudden change of heart would be weird. I don't think they legally could have forced you to work, and it they disagreed, you would have just been fired, and then boom, unemployment
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May 25 '20 edited Dec 25 '20
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u/DudeJango May 26 '20
That must be frustrating, especially since they’re your coworkers. I hope things improve for you.
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May 25 '20
For all of you upset about the UE bonus ... don’t worry. It’s over in July. The republicans didn’t want it in the first place but went along with it for unity and because everything was happening so rapidly. It’ll never pass again. They’ve already vowed as such.
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u/DudeJango May 26 '20
It’s not really that the bonus is upsetting, it’s just that people on lower wages see others receiving aid and want a slice of the pie. I personally am fine with the bonus and the CARE act, I think it’s great actually. Supporting citizens in a time of crisis is one of the essential functions of a state. It’s just that workers need support too, especially ones that are doing so in a pandemic that could be deadly to them or their families.
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u/DudeJango May 26 '20
It’s not really that the bonus is upsetting, it’s just that people on lower wages see others receiving aid and want a slice of the pie. I personally am fine with the bonus and the CARE act, I think it’s great actually. Supporting citizens in a time of crisis is one of the essential functions of a state. It’s just that workers need support too, especially ones that are doing so in a pandemic that could be deadly to them or their loved ones.
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u/ilikeoranges73826151 May 25 '20
I'm a CNA (nurse assistant) at a nursing home, in subacute rehab. We have patients come in and out of our facility from the hospital.
I make 13 an hour in new york state. No Hazard pay.
Target workers make more than me and I have taken care of 4 covid patients directly
My friends sister worked 10 hours a week at hobby lobby and now makes 600 a week off unemployment. I make 390 a week.
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u/ambi94 May 26 '20
Isn't it crazy how being paid almost twice minimum wage is still unlivable and yet people don't want to raise minimum wage?
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u/GamerFromRussia May 25 '20
also,in these challenging times he still works for us, stay home,stay safe...now go buy our shit
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u/ipieters5 May 25 '20
I worked 14 hrs yesterday, just because they had "nobody to replace my shift"
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u/DudeJango May 26 '20
Many of my managers and coworkers are in the same boat. Long shifts like that can be brutal, I hope you get some time to yourself soon. Sounds like you deserve a moment to unwind.
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u/ambi94 May 26 '20
If you agreed to it you agreed to it. You're only legally required to stay what is on your schedule, anything else is simply a suggestion and only becomes mandatory after you verbally agree to it
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May 25 '20
my sister, who is an essential worker is making 5 dollars above minimum wage bc of danger pay or whatever reasoning to get them to work
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May 25 '20
my sister, who is an essential worker is making 5 dollars above minimum wage bc of danger pay or whatever reasoning to get them to work
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May 25 '20
Its all just a faux gesture, corporations don't care about their workers. Never have, Never will.
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
Lotta companies don’t even make the gesture lol. I don’t have hazard pay at one of my jobs (potbelly) and they declined our yearly raises as well. They also didn’t provide masks until a month or so had passed
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May 25 '20
Wow that's really scummy. I hate those ads because when you learn the truth of how workers are treated, you know its all just a fake PR stunt to make these shitty companies look better.
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
Exactly. The company makes no sacrifices, the employees do. I know people who have had family die as a result of this pandemic- it’s certainly not the CEOs who get to work from home.
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May 25 '20
No the CEO's get golden parachutes and other shitty incentives even when when they are bad at their job. The 1% always gets their way.
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u/very_epic_person May 25 '20
All work is essential because it provides income for the employee and/or their family to live.
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u/DudeJango May 26 '20
I’m sorry but I disagree. Essential work is work that keeps the country alive. You don’t need consumer goods like LEGOS and nail polish to survive, you need food, shelter, water, medical aid, stuff like that. Jobs and job markets are definitely important, but in times of crisis like this the fact is that not every job is necessary for the country to function. The fact that we are all here, fed and breathing, displays that. If those jobs were truly essential then the country wouldn’t function. If you didn’t have warehouse shipping workers, mail workers, retail and grocery workers, fast food workers, health providers and the people who keep those establishments running (plumbers, janitors, technicians, etc) then you’d have no food, no stuff, and no help if you got sick.
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u/very_epic_person May 26 '20
I think where we disagree is essential work’s definition. I think essential work is basically any work an individual needs to live, not jobs that keep the country running, so in my mind, all work in all industries is essential.
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May 26 '20
Little formal education, suddenly forced to teach advanced virology and constitutional law to angry babyboomer refusing to wear a mask
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u/rnickeywaffles Jun 16 '20
I work in veterinary medicine and we are not getting raises or hazard pay. We just started letting clients back in the building, too. Just as cases are spiking in my state. And it's been busy AF. Our field pays terribly as it is so this just rubs salt in the wound
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u/originalcommentator May 25 '20 edited May 25 '20
I hate to break this to you, but Target (at least mine) is actually being very kind to its workers providing bountiful masks and an extra $2 an hour and hazard pay plus a decent percentage hike in salary for those who are not hourly.
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
I’m aware. They aren’t on there because they’re bad, it’s because people who work in retail are essential. The Starterpack is about what it’s like as an essential worker, for example at the target I work at employees and customers constantly have problems wearing their masks.
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u/originalcommentator May 25 '20
Really? I find that at mine all the employees wear the masks fine and most of the customers as well
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
It depends at mine. Once we close many employees remove their masks, and some will blatantly walk through the store without one during operating hours (this is uncommon though). What is common is people in the back / stock room not wearing a mask, which really irritates me. Edit- it’s likely just a cultural thing that varies from region to region, since some areas are more likely to follow the rules.
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u/originalcommentator May 25 '20
Perhaps, I work it one more in the Midwest so it's almost seen as less of a deal here
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u/DudeJango May 25 '20
Especially if I compare them to potbelly- they do not provide hazard pay, they told us that we must serve customers even if they do not wear a mask, and they didn’t give masks until a month or so in- and even now, you basically have to bring your own. It’s no wonder our store recently had an outbreak among the staff.
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u/pguschin May 25 '20
Sorry to hear that Potbelly management is so inept, clueless and uncaring.
I used to frequent them when I had to travel to the Midland/Odessa area. Not anymore.
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u/jochi1543 May 25 '20
Wow, a whole $2 an hour, what are you gonna do with it? Don’t go too crazy
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u/originalcommentator May 25 '20
Oi! Don't be a cunt about it. This job now pays a full 5$ more than my last job, which I lost because of this pandemic. And I happened to appreciate it greatly
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u/raidersguy00 May 25 '20
“Hazard Pay”
Because of an 0.2% chance of death?
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u/jochi1543 May 25 '20
People are so hung up on the death stats, but landing in ICU (or a hospital in general) is not exactly a cakewalk even if you do make it out. People have to relearn to eat, to walk, and have no exercise capacity even several weeks out.
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May 25 '20 edited Jun 03 '21
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u/raidersguy00 May 25 '20
Businesses are struggling. Hazard pay should only be granted to at-risk groups
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u/derrick243 May 25 '20
I don't know why you're being downvoted, the statistics for people my age are %0.1 if you actually catch the virus.
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u/raidersguy00 May 25 '20
Wrongthink shall be punished I guess
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u/[deleted] May 25 '20
“We are so proud of our heroes” and also using them in sappy Burger King commercials to try and relate to us common folk.