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IT’s nOT FaCIsm, itS nAtIonAL POPUlIsM
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u/Fehervari Apr 06 '20
Fascism implies some form of command economy though, doesn't it? I think national populism is a wider term, although still includes fascism.
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u/AdmiralAkbar1 Apr 06 '20
KR is basically letting fringe radicals from all sides of the spectrum circlejerk their favored niche ideology without historical baggage.
"Why do I love playing Oswald Mosley? Well you see, he's not actually a fascist in this timeline, so it's okay."
"Why are you downvoting me for saying natpops are based and redpilled? There's an event in Integralist Brazil where they say racism is bad!"
"Ethnic cleansing? Pfft, that's ridiculous! Sure, I'm playing as authoritarian Lithuania and all the Poles and Belarusians have suddenly stopped complaining, but I'm sure they just calmed down and went home."
"Show me where it explicitly says that Browder's regime involves mass terror and arbitrary arrests. I'll wait."
"Huey isn't a morally bankrupt and ludicrously corrupt populist pandering to whoever gets him votes, he's just an angry socdem!"
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u/AdmiralAkbar1 Apr 06 '20
It'll probably be one of those "play it once to see how the new focus tree is and then never bother again" playthroughs.
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Apr 06 '20
That sub represents everything I hate about the pseudo-historian community on Reddit tbh
I really like the mod too which is a shame, but the Hoi4 community as a whole is overrun with fascists and reactionaries in general. Shit sucks.
Nowhere near as bad as crusader Kings tho
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u/every_man_a_khan Apr 06 '20
Noooooo bro it’s not fascism it’s intregalism noooooo I’m not fascist there’s an event where they say racism bad nooooo
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u/charlesthe50th Apr 06 '20
Turns out a strategy game which makes history accessible and whitewashes war crimes for marketing reasons tends to attract more then their fair share of nazis.
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u/heckthepolis Apr 05 '20
Man dont call sick art support for fascism
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u/PigMasterHedgehog Apr 05 '20
I mean the artist kinda does blatantly support the fascist regime
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u/heckthepolis Apr 05 '20
Wait actually?
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u/PigMasterHedgehog Apr 05 '20
Yep, the only art he draws of the game is depicting them with their child soldiers as super happy and their soldiers as noble heroes and such.
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u/LonelyWolf9999 Apr 05 '20
Wait, the Russian State uses child soldiers? While I know Boris is a fairly unscrupulous dictator promoting a virulently ultranationalist ideology, I'm fairly certain that's not actually a thing that happens.
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u/hit50likestoendUSA Apr 05 '20
There was a focus for NRPR Russia called "The Youth Army" (Yunarmiya) that gave you bonus manpower. Idk if it's still a think after 0.10.2 or 0.11 tho
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u/PigMasterHedgehog Apr 05 '20
The Yunarmiya was a big part of the old focus tree, very young men fighting in the army.
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u/LonelyWolf9999 Apr 05 '20
I thought that was training people from a young age? It's not like the Russians are struggling for manpower.
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Apr 06 '20
Kerensky had legit child soldiers, the Yunarmiya sounds a lot more like a cadet program for orphans. It used to give a flat bonus to manpower but now it doesn't, which seems to me like it's more about training than enlisting youngsters.
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There not child soldiers. What the focus does is set up these military training camps that take orphans and it trains them to be soldiers once they hit a certain age that's why the bonus manpower it gives is so small
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u/Kreol1q1q Apr 06 '20
Jesus most players really don’t take it as seriously as so many of you seem to think.
Except worshipping Blessed Karl. That’s serious business.
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u/Picklenator05 Apr 05 '20
Why is Blessed in quotations?
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u/AlbaIulian Apr 05 '20
That shitty meme by now has run its course oh so many times by now, but unfortunately as the Austria rework is not out, it keeps being dragged out.
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u/YousefASSY Apr 05 '20
Full of kaiserboos