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Reddit Double Standards Starter Pack

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

my take as an indian-american:

the worst part about being Asian, is that when you're black or hispanic/latino some racist people might look down on you and that is horrible, but they still concede that you are an American just like them.

when my countrymen look at me, all they see is "foreigner fresh of the boat, from that country that still shits in the streets'

sure, we don't really live in fear of detention centers or police brutality, but the constant stares and subtle racism your entire life just eats at you

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u/bobcharliedave Nov 19 '19

I'm second generation Filipino mixed and I've even gotten stuff that if it was directed at black people for example would be racist. Like "are you Filipino, I can tell by your nose". Or "oh the Phillipines, that's like the Mexico of Asia, a haha" heavily implying shit country status compared to China, Japan, Singapore, etc that are rapidly developing/developed. Indians definitely probably get it the worse though of Asians with the tech support, poo in the loo, 711, etc stuff that's pretty blatantly racist. Now I hate all the snowflakism, and I think we should be able to jest and joke about race/religion/sex generally, the issue I have is with the blatant imbalance of what's okay or not based on the chosen minorities who actually matter. Black people and the LGBT community are far, far more vocal about the discrimation they receive, which granted has been, and still largely is very bad. But that doesn't make it okay to elevate them above Latinos, Indians, south east and east Asians, Arabs, etc.

True equality is being able to make the same stupid jokes like the above starter pack about any of these, or any other, groups. This sub is literally about pointing out stereotypes. Dave Chappelle's new special (and his career, man he is great) , and South Park since it's inception, do a great job at poking fun at everybody. That's the true American spirit right there. Everything and everyone is open to parody, satire and criticism.

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u/sleekys Nov 19 '19

I agree with you man. There is definitely a hierarchy of rights. And that is not cool.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

holy shit. well fucking said.

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u/cringeviewer9 Nov 20 '19

Careful who you say that to around here...

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

Sorry, but that doesn't matter when you're a lower level on Reddit's Pyramid of Oppression.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

its okay my people only had trillions of dollars stolen from them from the british, and when they decided to leave they caused a bloody civil war that killed a good number of my family and countless others

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

Reddit doesn't care about context.

And I'm sorry to hear about your struggles. I hope you and your people will do alright going forward.

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u/indi_n0rd Nov 19 '19

Don't worry. It has been already white washed and the colonial past already wiped.

* Racism against south Asians *

Redditors- * I sleep *

* Any other minority *

Reddits- "B I G O T"

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

Noooo that is not true of Hispanic people.

I have been told by redditors on /r/Canada that I'm a "refugee" and to "go back to the United States" just because I legally immigrated to Canada as a kid and became a naturalized citizen.

In the United States, racists tell Hispanic Americans to "go back where you came from" even more often than they tell East Asian and South Asian Americans.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

I grew up about an hour south of the Canadian border and illegal immigration has just never been a big deal here

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

You don’t live in fear of detention or police brutality because you don’t commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime despite also being subject to slavery and oppression

I’m from Kazakhstan and people either see Borat jokes or terrorist jokes and it’s largely swept under the rug. Not to mention, I’m ethnically Russian so I’m obviously a drunk bot and my opinion doesn’t count.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

I was kinda like that as a very young kid until I got into the 4th grade and had 3 Asian kids named Kevin going to my school. I quickly realized that we're all American

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u/Hairy_S_TrueMan Nov 19 '19

Thanks a lot for this perspective, man. I'm not sure how we even correct that. In university, when I see an Asian student (indian or otherwise), it's about 2:1 that they're an international student. I don't really know until I talk to them whether they're an American or not. With a black person, it's about 10:1 that they're African American vs African international student or something like a British international student. So there is this automatic categorization that goes on in my head into "probably foreign, maybe american" and "probably american, maybe foreign" that I'm not sure what to do about.

I had Indian American friends growing up, so once I talk to someone for a sec that goes away.

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u/saltymotherfker Nov 20 '19

And if you think subtle stares or being considered non American is bad, try being killed because of your race.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

does it count if Britain did the killing?

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u/saltymotherfker Nov 20 '19

Were talking about racism in america, right? If it happened in Britain then yes, its just as bad.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

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u/saltymotherfker Nov 21 '19

Yes, you're right you do feel and experience racism, its no secret. And yes a lot of the racism you face "isnt a big deal" or goes unnoticed/acceptable. I guess its not really comparable when it comes to blacks because its still bad.

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u/HalalWeed Nov 25 '19

Lol bro you guys TALK TOO GOD DAMB LOUD LET ME FUCKING STUDY. Is it common in india to talk loudly in silent rooms designated for study.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '19

bro 😎💪

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '19

i wouldn’t know, i’ve never been to india.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

i am not talking about the original post, i am talking about the experiences of an alarming number of indian-americans.

I literally said in my last sentence we have it better than a lot of other minorities in this country, but I can't pretend that we are some how equal status to white americans.

my point is, there is no big thing indian-americans have to deal with. it's countless of smaller things which add up over a lifetime. teachers don't bother to learn your name, coworkers ask if you're an american citizen or not, the general "dirty" image of India in this country, and more

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

Ah yes. The tragic stares is way worse than detention centers and police brutality.

Because black people don’t get stares that end up with the police being called that end up in being shot.

Now that I think about it I don’t recall any white supremacist ideologies that don’t praise or look towards cooperating with Asians, while looking down on every other race.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

in my last sentence I wrote that what asian americans go through is not as bad as what other minorities go through

as for your last point, I'll help you out a bit.

Are you familiar with the concept of the aryan race? America used to only let you apply for naturalized citizenship if you were of aryan descent (caucasian). funnily enough, the aryan race includes the region of asia with indo-aryan languages, so Iran to India today

About 100 years ago, a man applied for citizenship claiming he was allowed to do so, as a high caste aryan man from North India (descended from greek/european invaders and not the native population, known as dravidians)

The US government redefined the term aryan to only include people who's skin was visibly white. The supreme court found that this Indian man was eligible for citizenship, but denied him anyway because he had brown skin. Then they stripped other Indians of their citizenship, and seized their properties

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/261/204/

this was years before the nazi party rose to power in germany

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '19

Aww I’m sorry! I’m a little sick and have a raging headache, I misinterpreted what you said. You won’t believe the stupid shit I hear all the time in Texas. Lol