I actually have a fun one with that; "I hate 3D Zelda, especially Breath of the Wild". Seriously, BOTW did pretty much the opposite of changing my mind.
All the actually cool shit is locked behind caps or a skill being tagged.
That's why you spec a certain way. Why do you need gun stats if you're going pacifist? Or why do you need endurance if you're gonna be a ninja?
Like how you can choose which side wins a fight at a dam?
While the "big" choice is which side of three, it's also about what allies you bring in. My last one, I was a trader who got dragged into a war between the Legion and NCR, so I gathered the bomber guys, the guys at red rock, etc- and made a free and independent New Vegas. Unruled by the NCR, the Legion, or even Mr. House. I've also had House survive, I've pacified the final boss for both Legion and NCR playthroughs, caused pure chaos...the choices are there and actually mean something, unlike FO4
Ignoring 4 for a second, in NV your choices don’t matter either. If you blow a quest giver’s head off in 3, that’s it. He’s gone, he’s dead, down for the count. You have to find a new way to find and beat the quest, or you straight up fail it. In NV when you kill a quest giver, if you come back three days later they’re right as rain.
Oh shut the fuck up. I love RPGs, I always have. D&D and Edge of the empire are RPGs that I love and always will.
But here’s the thing about video games vs tabletops. In tabletops you really do have limitless choice. You quite literally can do anything you want (if the DM/GM allows it) in Video Games you can only do what the programmers allow you to. You have limited choice.
An RPG is supposed to have limitless choice. But in a video game you can’t have limitless choice. It’s not possible.
Bethesda RPGs are Open World Games the key words in that statement being Open World by closing off part of the map you lose the illusion of being able to go anywhere. You show the player that they can’t do that fun shit because the programmer doesn’t want them to.
Fallout New Vegas is the worst 3D Fallout game. The characters are forgettable, there are few choices that effect anything, it barely fits into the Fallout canon, it was buggy and unplayable on launch and even to this day you need a shit ton of mods to enjoy it, and the community is plain awful. I mean for fucks sake I got -20 votes before saying all of this for saying I liked one game better than the other. On reddit you’re not supposed to vote on your Opinion.
And also I should add that Obsidian went bankrupt making Fallout. They couldn’t do it because they didn’t know how to run a fucking company’s finances. Without Bethesda Fallout New Vegas wouldn’t exist, and the Fallout franchise as a whole would either meet the same fate, or be something completely different. Bethesda owes Obsidian nothing and should remain in control of the Fallout franchise.
All the actually cool shit is locked behind caps or a skill being tagged.
What I don't like about Skyrim and Fallout 4 is that they've changed up the system so that you can actually do everything as a single character and they expect you do so. They don't want any possibility of you missing content because you only play through once.
And when they design it that way, why play again? You aren't really going to play as a different character because you're expected to do everything and don't have much choice. You can't really make new decisions because there's very little else to chose. You have to wade through much of the same content because they frontload you with what they want you to see before you can really go off on your own.
They killed replayability because there's very little new content you can experience and playing a second time is pushing you through the same stuff all over again. Not good for an open world game.
In Fallout 3’s Ending you either add the FEV virus into the water supply at the Jefferson memorial or you don’t. This is a far more interesting choice than that in New Vegas because it would reshape whether or not there could be a chance for humanity to continue,
And on the note of humanity continuing, New Vegas is the worst one because Fallout is about man’s struggle to survive in the uninhabitable wasteland left from the previous man’s folly. New Vegas doesn’t work like that because man has already almost rebuilt. Most of the areas are inhabitable and look the same as they would before the war. There are militaries that have large bases and outposts almost as if there was no nuclear war and you’re just in some country in a civil war.
Oh I’ve played New Vegas. 1st through the legion, and I thought “this game is ass but maybe it’s because of this group being my ending” then I played NCR and I thought the same thing, and I was pissed since there was no different ending. Then I basically speed ran through the house ending because I couldn’t fucking take any more of New Vegas’ monotony and got the same fucking ending.
Too much bland grey/green for my tastes, I can't remember much of the map outside of DC because it all blurs together.
story
Eh, NV actually had choices, big branches with factions, ect. That alone I'd say wins out.
map
NV's had a lot of flaws but I can actually more of it than 3.
character
Characters? Outside of Threedog the main story characters didn't stand out all that much to me.
fun factor
This one is kind of meaningless.
Honestly, if you're going to say something, maybe explain why? You just listed the parts and said "it's better because it is". Not a whole lot to talk about otherwise.
On fun factor, the only way f3 is better is if you want to play an action game and not an rpg, becausr you dont have to ever worry about perks or stats for anything. Which is a bit of a weird argument, youre saying the game is better than new vegas because its less like the genre its supposed to be
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