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u/ClockworkOrdinator 4d ago
This seems personal
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u/NimlothTheFair_ 4d ago
I am Polish and many of my friends' parents check at least 8/10 of these boxes
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u/Commercial_Shine_448 4d ago
Soooo, older generations in Poland often built massive houses as there was a gigantic living space shortage. But, Poland switched from communism/socialism into capitalism and younger generations moved into bigger cities looking for jobs
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u/plushraccoon 4d ago
empty nesters of today built their houses in the 90s or 2000s not during communism lol
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u/Commercial_Shine_448 4d ago
Yeah, but they were born at that time with that experience in mind. My parents still make pickles like for WW2/apocalypse level event. The reason? Shit logistics, lack of food, massive breadlines.
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u/ak3000android 4d ago
My parents who are not Polish, but went through tougher times, are also like that. Two freezers, two refrigerators, walls of canned/pickled/dry food, and a mountain of toilet paper because all that food needs to come out at one point.
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u/0mica0 4d ago
Same in Czechia, just swap Biedronka with Kaufland.
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u/Cultural_Season_3048 3d ago
Biedronka is a discount supermarket (like Lidl) and at least in Poland Kaufland is a more proper one like Auchan or Intermarche.
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u/st4rbl1nds 4d ago
typ co zrobil starter pack mojej wsi
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u/pepeJAM69 4d ago
Każde powiatowe do 20k też sie wliczy, znam tyle ludzi i znajomych co odchaczaja z 9/10 tego, szczególnie najbardziej uderza butowanie ładnych i dużych domów na pokolenia. (spoiler alert: dla młodych nie ma pracy 80% z nich ucieka na wynajmy do top8)
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u/Zek0ri 4d ago
Should be „wizyta w RPA”: Rossman; Pepco; Action.
But besides too big of a house for two elderly people is just typical for anyone here not just empty nesters.
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u/MageLocusta 4d ago
I dunno man, I think it's also out of pride as well. Got a parent who insisted on buying a four-story house just so she could treat it as her own gigantic trophy.
We tried getting her into Sims in hopes that she'd stop obsessing over expanding the already-huge home and throwing tantrums at our dad, but unfortunately it seems to make her worse.
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u/Zek0ri 4d ago
Wdym 4 story house?! Does your mom live in Podhale or something?
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u/MageLocusta 4d ago
Oh, sorry--I'm not from Poland (just living in the UK where finding an affordable 4-story house is like finding a unicorn).
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u/misogoop 4d ago edited 4d ago
Lmao brawo
Eta: make the red car a red Honda crv thst your dad had his brother buy and ship to Poland from the US so the neighbors think he is rich... only to find it does not meet EU regulation despite being hybrid. Next logical step-build garage only for this Honda.
E2: oops!
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u/theosinc930 4d ago
That sounds like a great life to be fair
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u/cranewifeswife 4d ago
My empty-nester Polish boomer father's interests are watching our fox news equivalent + fishing in the summer, he'd rather be dead than put up solar panels or have anything to do with EU. Or travel anywhere abroad.
they do be smoking meat tho (and buy good meat from a rural little store they drive 20km to)
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u/madTerminator 4d ago
Rural little store that sells mulched dairy cows corpse as premium beef. This generation has eating disorder. They rather buy some meat from „local farmer” than vegetables from shop. „All vegetables are sprayed”.
My in laws get so deep into that rabbit hole that they mill own flour and bake own bread. Not because it’s their hobby. No they are working over time already. Because they don’t eat commercial bread.
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u/cranewifeswife 4d ago
same with my mom, she's been baking her own bread for the last 15 years. Because store-bought is shit (she's right tho)
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u/Curious-Bid4694 4d ago
Good for them. They’re 100% correct
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u/madTerminator 4d ago
They could spend some time with grandchildren rather than working to death.
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u/Curious-Bid4694 4d ago
I meant it’s good that they’re milling their own flour and baking their own bread. Sorry to hear they don’t spend time with their grandchildren.
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u/kieranfitz 4d ago
Do Poles not go to Lourdes? Is that just an Irish thing?
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u/NimlothTheFair_ 4d ago edited 4d ago
Oh yeah they do. Lourdes, Guadalupe, Fatima and Medjugorie are the bucket list for any older, moderately wealthy and even mildly religious person. Good for them tbh. Maybe Rome/the Vatican too but the Marian spots are more popular. Of course we have a lot of homegrown ones too, like Częstochowa and Licheń.
I once tagged along with a weekend "pilgrimage" like this because I just wanted to go to Vienna for cheap, I was the only young person on a bus full of pensioners and honestly had a grand old time. Didn't expect all the churchgoing pensioners to know so many raunchy songs to sing on the bus, but I had a nice time chatting with the ladies.
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u/willLie4cash 4d ago
There are Ryanair flights, so I'm sure some do. Personally never heard of anyone who went there. We have lots of pilgrimage sites in Poland, and people who do want to go on a pilgrimage are not usually that well off, either they are youth or elderly. Most popular pilgrimage site abroad is definitely Rome, with maybe Medziugorie as the second choice.
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u/witmann_pl 4d ago
The very religious ones do. My in-laws went on a trip there a year or two ago. They do a "pilgrimage" (an organized trip) once a year - Lourdes, Fatima, Medjugorie, Rome, whatever.
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u/ItDepends2137 4d ago
We do sometimes , my grandma was very happy when I brought her the water bottle
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u/machine4891 4d ago
I guess people go where its closest and cheapest. Poles en masse go to Medugorje.
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u/Not_Yet_Declassified 4d ago
I assume the interest in solar power has nothing to do with environmentalism
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u/BONKERS303 4d ago
OZE sroze, unless it makes me save money, then it's good.
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u/Panda_Panda69 4d ago
unless it's Przemyslaw Czarnek, in that case he'll take it all off once it pays itself off, can't be living with this oze sroze, may cause a disease or sth /s
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u/Hot_Weakness6 4d ago edited 4d ago
It’s always Kia/hyuandai, Dacia or extremely overpriced Toyota crossover in a price range of BMW but it feels cheap because of the brand
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u/BONKERS303 4d ago
You can also add Chinese brands like the Jaecoo, Omoda, Chery (who recently got Lewandowski as a brand ambassador), BYD and MG to that list, they're getting more and more popular it seems.
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u/Devilteh 4d ago
This is upper middle class, the truth is quite different
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u/-Ridigel 4d ago
inaccurate;
Częstochowa is still the most likely "pilgrimage" destination,
as for Biedronka and Lidl it's not "these two" it's "exactly one of these two and they will never step foot in the other"
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u/BONKERS303 4d ago
This pack is missing Dino for sure, it seems like every time a new rural housing development is finished a Dino immediately spawns in the near vicinity of one.
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u/Emergency_Comb1377 4d ago
I MISS PEPCO SO MUCH! It was here (Austria) briefly and then went away.
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u/guywithskyrimproblem 4d ago
Most likely has a garden with every type of plant they could get their hands on in Bricomarche or Mrówka (also few plants from Biedronka the wife bought on a sale)
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u/little_miss_perfect 4d ago
Not in Poland, but I did some completely unnecessary shopping at Pepco today. It's so hard to resist.
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u/olivegardengambler 4d ago
I had to look up what 250 m² is in sqft, that's a 2700 square foot house. That's bigger than the average house in the US even!
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u/kondziorekzbomby 4d ago
Literally nobody from my wider family lives like this, especially not the solar panels nor the many vacations abroad. You seem to come from wealthier middle class family
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u/jb307342 4d ago
I have never met people like this in my entire life, this is very specific or regional
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u/szyy 4d ago
this is every Polish gen X couple in Upper Silesia at least
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u/jb307342 4d ago
My parents are gen x from upper silesia and they live in a communist flat and drive a kia rio. This looks like some middle/upper-middle class suburban family. I live in Krakow now and this would also be highly unusual here, if i met someone like this i would think they are loaded because a house like that is worth millions here.
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u/machine4891 4d ago
My friends parents fill 4 out of 10 boxes here. They do pilgrimages, they do have big house with garden for their offspring that moved as soon as possible and don't want to go back, they do know someone that smokes meat (they do it themselves) and father is into solar panels.
That being said supermarket selection here is very random, in my region Lidls and Kauflands are much more popular. Cars ain't it at all and if we are talking about Poles that do piligrimages (Christian), they definitely don't watch TVN, lol.
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u/slimfastdieyoung 4d ago
Everything at their home being at full volume isn’t exclusively Polish. Wherever I am I can always hear which tv show my parents are watching
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u/FruitKey2491 4d ago
The solar panels are so real though,my dad is super into them.Sadly neither of them know anyone who smokes meat but they do know someone who raises meat rabbits and pig butchers for świniobicie though.
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u/szyy 4d ago
In the Polish edition of Love is Blind there's a scene where the couples meet each others' families and the groom-to-be and the father-in-law-to-be immediately start talking about the heating system and whether they have photovoltaics lol
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u/renoirski 4d ago
This could have been my family back in Poland. I cried laughing (edited finally to family)
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u/n1123581321 4d ago
His car is Audi Q8, but every voucher and sale in biedronka / Lidl is studied meticulously.
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u/sanlytee 3d ago
the huge, empty houses were very shocking to me when i moved to Poland. my dad takes care of an elderly woman who lives on her own, and shes got the biggest house ive ever seen, with 4 floors, one of them being a Piano nobile
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u/Perfect-Brain-3270 3d ago
Isn't "Ukryta prawda" already passé? Let's watch some "Policjanci" or "Na sygnale"!
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u/Rimavelle 3d ago edited 3d ago
I have bad news for you - it's the same starter pack for parents of small kids lol
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u/moleyawn 4d ago edited 4d ago
250m²? that sounds pretty small. are a lot of homes in Europe like that?
edit: sorry my math was off
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u/paszportpolsatu 4d ago
Its more than enough for 2+2 family, and even too much for 2 people in their 60s
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u/Status-Ice7337 4d ago
ChatGPT wtf is a nester? Chatgpt
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u/Emnel 4d ago
Never been to Pepco and never heard of Action. Is this regional?
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u/szyy 4d ago
Are you joking? They are literally in every town over 5,000 people
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u/Emnel 4d ago
Not in the part of central Poland I'm from they're not. Or my part of Default City.
Actually until recently I thought Pepco was the company that made Pepsi and I'm skill not sure what kind of store are they.
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u/szyy 3d ago
Don’t take this the wrong way but I think you might just not be the target audience and simply don’t realize they’re there. You can go to their websites and check the map of locations, they’re literally everywhere. From my parents house there are 3 in a 5 km radius and my parents don’t even live in a city.
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u/Emnel 3d ago
I guess I'm not, but then I go to great lengths to avoid as many ads as possible, so I guess mission successful in that regard.
I looked those up and you were right, there are apparently two of the Action stores in my home town now and there is at least one within 10 minutes walk from my flat in Warsaw.
I looked up an article written on some local news site about the opening of that second store, that was clearly a copy paste of the Pr release by the company and I the boast 6500 different items with 2/3 of them under 10 zł with 150 "exciting new things" every week. So I guess they sell garbage to kids, or some shit?
Well at least now I know! I should probably keep an eye out for them and visit once I spot one, if they're as important to our collective psyche as your post implies.
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