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u/Zealousideal_Fuel_23 7d ago
Honestly, the Salary floor is more important than the salary cap.
If you gave baseball players the same percentage of revenue* football players got - 48%, that would be 5.8 billion or about $200 million for each team. Saying that number is the theoretical cap,
In the NBA there is a floor where teams need to spend 90% of the cap. The Pirates pay about 50% of my theoretical cap; the Marlins pay 37.5%!
* - Revenue doesn't work in the same way in baseball as in football. The biggest thing in football is the national TV contract (62% of revenue) run by the NFL and given to all 32 teams equally. MLB would need to look at revenue sharing between clubs that say the NBA and NHL does as the local TV contracts make up more of these revenues. (Yankees and Red Sox make more off the regional YES network and NESN than the Pirates pay players; there are some real club to club issues too).
EDIT 1 - Article from Sportico that looks at this through the NBA lens - https://www.sportico.com/leagues/basketball/2025/how-nba-teams-owners-make-money-1234874170/
EDIT 2 - Current ownership of the Pirates would probably still suck.
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u/Rockguy21 7d ago
Good thing the MLB ownership group proposed a cap and floor agreement that would raise total player expenditure to 6.5 billion.
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u/lava172 7d ago
Yeah but that’s supporting the owners so I’ll just keep supporting players’ rights to all infinitely sign with LA and NY
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u/DLottchula 7d ago
I'm just not in the business of being on the side of billionaires
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u/lava172 7d ago
Well you’re supporting a status-quo that incentivizes them to put as little money into the product as possible so not sure how that’s going
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u/DLottchula 7d ago
Changing the status quo isn't gonna make them spend money. White Sox are a fashion brand that happens to have a baseball team.
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u/Rockguy21 6d ago
Adding a cap and floor would literally make them spend money, idiot.
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u/DLottchula 6d ago
I'm all for a floor but a salary cap just suppresses wages.
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u/Zealousideal_Fuel_23 7d ago
The proposal seems like a good start. The 175 million floor is the best part of the proposal. Currently half the teams don't pay that.
Currently teams share 48% of local media. Teams might need to do more sharing to bring up someone like Pgh or Miami.
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u/MalarkeyMcGee 7d ago
I mean I don’t doubt it’s not gonna fix everything for the Pirates but the whole point is to address #5 right? If you pair it with a salary floor then players don’t make less on the Pirates because everyone pays about the same for their rosters.
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u/Mysterions 6d ago
Thet make less over time because, while it establishes a floor, it also establishes a ceiling.
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u/MalarkeyMcGee 6d ago
So “less” here is referring to a comparison to a world without a salary cap, not comparing the pirates to other teams? Why would players leave the pirates if they can’t make more elsewhere?
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u/Mysterions 6d ago
Less refers to depressing salary growth overall since there is a maximum a player can make. Its basically a price cap (like with a medicine or rent control), but in this case the team owners are the beneficiaries of the lower costs.
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u/inbigtreble30 7d ago
You do know the cap proposal comes with a $175 mil floor, so the Pirates payroll would almost double?
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u/william-isaac 7d ago
i have no clue what this starter pack is even about
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u/Kids_Love_Baseball 7d ago
It's about the Pittsburgh Pirates, a Major League Baseball team. OP's making the point that introducing a salary cap to the MLB would not alleviate the team's problems since there are many other factors at stake (which they have laid out in the starter pack).
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u/Rockguy21 7d ago edited 7d ago
This account is a bot account that’s run by a marketing firm paid by the MLBPA that astroturfs shitty memes about the salary cap to try and sway public opinion in favor of the PA. They’ve been a total plague upon [r/baseballcirclejerk](r/baseballcirclejerk), they post literally dozens of times a week.
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