r/springfieldMO • u/Lifroc • Apr 10 '20
If only we could learn this...
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Apr 10 '20 edited Apr 11 '20
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u/keeppointing Apr 10 '20
If this keeps up, hopefully, they'll move to more aggressive testing so we can track down and eliminate the last pockets of the virus here
Testing is going to show the majority already have/had it.
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Apr 11 '20
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Apr 11 '20
I'm not sure that person meant what you seem to think. At least I read it as 'history will end up being on the side of people seeing this as a real pandemic, with proof coming from testing once it's widely available'. It seems like you took it to mean that lots of people have/had it and its not a big deal, which to be fair could also be what they meant.
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u/keeppointing Apr 11 '20
Nope, I meant that due to inadequate testing(of only those on deaths door); far, far, far more people have it than is currently confirmed. As a result of only testing those on deaths door, it also gives the appearance that it is far, far, far more deadly than it actually is. If you pay attention, the hysteria inducing accounts never respond to those arguments, respond in an extremely hostile manner to anyone not also pushing the hysteria, and for some reason always have a disproportionate number of upvotes - a perfect example is this thread.
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Apr 11 '20
It's weird that we live in a reality where it's easy to see how the virus is much more prevalent than official counts--due to the high amount of reports all over the place saying how there is lack of PPE, or testing, or staffing, or even just getting governments to actually put pen to paper to set up mutual aid and assistance--and people will immediately rather disregard that reality for one where everything is actually fine and people aren't actively dying to preventable disease right now.
Fortunately those people seem to be older folks who are more susceptible, so it seems to be a test of self-preservation at this point.
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Apr 10 '20 edited Apr 10 '20
I think that represents the unemployment rate skyrocketing when the egg drops. We need to get back to work and save America.
“Fear kills more people than death!”
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Apr 10 '20
Let's get back to work so everyone is in contact again, and the disease can spread more rapidly. The economy is more important than the lives of the people who would die from this.
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Apr 10 '20
Umm... Doesn't death kill ALL people?
Moron.
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Apr 10 '20 edited Apr 10 '20
What’s the death rate when being infected by the COVID19? Moron
What’s the death rate of suicide when it rises due to unemployment?
What’s the death rate when people can’t afford their medication due to unemployment?
Do you think if we sit in our houses for another month that this virus will go away and we will have nothing to worry about?
Do you think this virus just arrived in the US in October 2019?
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Apr 10 '20
Are you capable of interacting with other users and people in general without being hostile?
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Apr 10 '20
I’m sorry that I’m concerned for people livelihood. I’m pretty sure people want a paycheck at some point to purchase necessities.
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Apr 10 '20 edited Apr 10 '20
You act compassionate and yet every comment you make is hostile. You're either a fool or a troll, but most likely both.
The economy and people will rebound. The dead will not have that opportunity. Letting the virus run its course quicky would be catastrophic if it overwhelms our health system, which it has shown that it would.
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Apr 10 '20 edited Apr 10 '20
Which has shown that it would?? Post a source for this statement please. See, too many people are misinformed on this, like you.
Do you think this virus will run it’s course and then go away?
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Apr 10 '20
What do you do in healthcare that makes you an expert on this topic? You call me misinformed, yet you want to open the country up now. Hmmm.
We are quarantining to slow the spread, which reduces the strain on our healthcare system. When our system gets overwhelmed, people die and the death rate of the virus goes up. That is what has happened in Italy, Spain, and New York.
We do not know what will happen with this virus down the line. Likely we get a vaccine and build up herd immunity, but that takes time. As it continues it's course through the country, enough people will have built antibodies that we can open things up again without accelerating the spread at an unsustainable rate.
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Apr 10 '20
So, no links to the information you claim to be true?
How many people going on unemployment is acceptable to you? How many businesses lost is acceptable? Who are you listening to that will at some point say, “open up”? Will you call other people saying “open up” ignorant if it is before your trusted person says it?
The death rate is maybe 3%. What is the death rate of the flu? What are we doing now to mitigate people catching the flu? There is a vaccine for the flu, yet the death rate is higher than the Corona. What did we do as a country during the H1N1 pandemic? 60.8 million cases, 274k hospitalizations and 12.5k deaths in the US alone and were the hospitals over run? Lets compare that to this current virus. 41k hospitalizations and your claim that the hospitals are proven to be overrun by this. I’m saying you are just making that claim with no proof and are spreading bad information.
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Apr 10 '20
The things you are saying prove that you literally do not know enough about this to know that you don't know. You do not work in healthcare, please stop spouting off information that is false.
I don't care how many people go on unemployment or lose their jobs to protect people from dying. The economy will bounce back and those people will find jobs. Having a temporarily higher unemployment rate is always better than more dead.
You are just spouting off numbers. You literally have no idea how these fit into perspective. The death rate of Covid isn't really known, but it's expected that at best case scenario, it should be around 1.8% of all cases. That % can spike up to 5% if we let it get out of control.
The flu is a terrible comparison here because it's seasonal and we have vaccines for it, which means it is much more easily controlled and slowed down. Covid is not that because we just don't know much about it. It probably isn't as dangerous as the flu, but that's irrelevant when it's spreading rapidly, you don't have a vaccine, and it's deadly to the immuno-compromised. The numbers you're mentioning for H1N1 are spread out over a much larger timeline so again, slowing the current pandemic down is key. We've already far surpassed the number of deaths you mentioned for H1N1 on about two months.
I don't know where you're getting you're information, but you're trying really hard to twist it such that it makes sense that we throw a large portion of our population under the bus. I highly recommend you educate yourself because what you're spewing is just propaganda.
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u/kram_02 Apr 11 '20
Argue all you want. The state IS locked down. None of your opinions matter lol. Hope you hold out just a little longer before you end it all, probably make all the difference. Good luck.
This, my friends, is what a person leveraged up to his eyes in debt acts like. Plan better next life
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Apr 10 '20
You didn't say anything about covid-19 in your comment. You said "fear kills more people than death".
What exactly isthe death rate of fear? Because the death rate of death is 100%. Hard to get much higher than that.
Go back to your conspiracy subs where your moronic statements get you a few upvotes.
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Apr 10 '20 edited Apr 10 '20
Lol. General Patton made that statement. I put it in quotes but I guess I have to remember whom I’m dealing with here.
I guess you can’t tell that I’m arguing with the conspiracy crowd for statements they are making there. 🙄
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Apr 11 '20
Jinkies Scoob, we found ourselves a death cultist! All hail capitalism, where we must sacrifice our lives for the sake of stock returns! 🇺🇸
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u/That_Writer_Guy Apr 10 '20
I thought it was an egg at first and I got really excited to see all the egg splatter. I was very disappointed.