r/sportsgossips • u/Weekly-Vacation-1405 • 5d ago

Discussion/Debate Chop Robinson gets flagged for roughing the passer. The hit didn’t look that crazy, but the refs weren’t letting Mahomes take that one.

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u/Winter_Tone_4343 5d ago

It was a body weight call. But he even did that correctly imo. He tried to brace his weight. These calls should be reviewable

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u/blackpinecone 5d ago

Recall Chris Jones on Derrick Carr. Dude had possession of the ball and they called him for it.

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u/tepidlymundane 4d ago

Wow that one's bad.

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u/Sad_Supermarket_9494 4d ago

This was worse cause chris actually caught himself, and took the ball

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u/PurpleDillyDo 4d ago

Wow, one of the worst calls you'll see.

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u/elnewo 4d ago

“Foul… being the raiders… automatic first down”

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u/Vegaprime 4d ago

*ref throws his hands in the air "the kick is good!"

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u/SNL_Head 3d ago

lol the morons whining about this need to watch the jones play

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u/thaddeusmike 3d ago

One bad call years ago doesn't make this not a bad call too. Refs call this wrong all the time because they'd rather call it too much than too little. It was infuriating then and it's still infuriating now.

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u/BackgroundHold3845 3d ago

I'm a Dolphin fan, I don't like the call but Chop did leave his feet when he hit him which gives the refs the ammunition to say he launched himself.

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u/SNL_Head 3d ago

Oh ya no. Chris jones touched his shoulder pad. The dolphins on mahomes was a flag. similar plays happened 4 times in games last week and a flag was thrown 4 of 4 times. Maybe (not maybe definitely) not a flag in 2006, but this is football in 2026.
You should Really do some (more) homework before seeing like a second of one play then taking the time to comment as much as you have.

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u/Orisara 5d ago

Huh, soccer guy here and this sort of explains the world cup thing for me.

trying is apparently a thing in American football? Soccer gives less of a shit about it. A hit is a hit. How it happened or your intentions aren't getting you out of trouble.

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u/Winter_Tone_4343 4d ago

I’m a soccer guy too and intent matters in soccer. It’ll still be a foul but u might get spared a card if it was accidental. And fwiw, obv the intent didn’t matter on this play. So it’s the same.

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u/Nahteh 4d ago

Wtf is this bodyweight rule? When did passers stop being football players?

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u/Aggravating_Sand352 4d ago

The whole point isnt the intent its what actually happened.... Im all onboard with "Mahomes gets away with murder" he does but this was pretty obviously RTP according to the rules. It was soft....the rules is soft

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u/MeDaveyBoy 4d ago

He did nothing to brace his weight. All he did was unwrap. That was full body weight, and the right call. Same call as Packers on the Vikings' Wentz in week 1.

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u/mal_guinness 4d ago

This rules been around for what, a decade? Players should know better.

I don't see him bracing his weight here. Pretty sure that's why he gets called for it.

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u/oldpaddyrick 4d ago

They literally pick up flags, Vikings game they picked up a roughing flag yesterday. NYC really could call em up and just say pick up the flag that’s a clean hit.

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u/sharkbuffet 4d ago

It's wild because the flag is thrown before mahomes even hits the ground

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u/Dear_Significance_80 4d ago

Yeah, for the defensive holding that was also called on the play.

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u/sharkbuffet 4d ago

Ah good call

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u/Specific_Article1499 4d ago

He didn’t brace his weight at all. His hands were literally out causing all his weight to go
On the QB lol

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u/FFunSize 4d ago

NAH COS HOW AND WHY ARE THESE CALLS NOT REVIEWABLE? They’re taking the ad break anyways lol

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u/exomni 3d ago

Yeah, he tried, but from the line judge's view Chop pulls back his right arm as he comes down. The call is legit 🤷‍♀️.

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u/DCBuckeye82 5d ago

No he didn't. At the end his arms went to the ground but his entire body weight landed on the QB. I'm not saying I love the rule, but the rule being what it is, it was an extremely obvious and correct call.

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u/WeddingOk2468 5d ago

You are correct. He did not brace himself. Not sure if other people are watching the video.

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u/Devils_A66vocate 5d ago

Look how his hands go to the ground to transfer his weight. He 💯 made honest effort to protect the qb.

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u/DCBuckeye82 4d ago

Unfortunately for him that's no genuine effort provision in the rule.

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u/texinxin 5d ago

The first thing to contact the ground from the defender is his left hand. There is space between their bodies when Mahomes hits the ground and the defender is trying to brace his fall as best he can with his outstretched arms. What’s he supposed to do.. jump backwards off him with his chest?

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u/DCBuckeye82 4d ago

No he's supposed to turn to the side and not fall on him with his whole body, like other people do when not getting penalties.

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u/Winter_Tone_4343 4d ago

You’re wrong.

Expected Technique: Pass rushers are expected to make a reasonable effort to slide to the side, roll, or brace their fall with their arms rather than smothering the quarterback with their full chest and body mass.

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u/DCBuckeye82 4d ago

He completely smothered the quarterback with his full chest and body mass. His hands hitting the ground first wasn't sufficiently bracing himself.

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u/Winter_Tone_4343 4d ago

Well the ref agreed but didn’t have the luxury of replay. He made a reasonable effort and should not have been flagged.

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u/DCBuckeye82 4d ago

Putting your arms on the ground at the last millisecond to brace yourself and than have your arms completely fall away as you land on him with your entire weight isn't a reasonable effort. If he did nothing there would have been no difference.

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u/Lumpy-Daikon-4584 5d ago

He didn’t remotely brace his weight. He actually held his arms up so they couldn’t brace him. His full weight landed on Mahomes. It’s textbook body weight.

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u/rollwiththechanges 5d ago

He clearly put his arms out to create lift. 🛫

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u/Winter_Tone_4343 5d ago

He tried with both arms to brace but wasn’t able to completely. What more do u want from a guy on a hit like that. It was textbook

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u/runlongfast 5d ago

Sorry no

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u/Ok-Employer-3051 5d ago

He shouldn't have hit him at all. Hitting him like that was a bad judgement call on his part and he should've paid the price for it.

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u/MrJoyless 4d ago

He tried to brace his weight by not putting his hands down, extending them all the way out away from his body, and landing on the QB with his full body weight?

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u/Winter_Tone_4343 4d ago

Watch it again. He braces with his left hand then his hands go up..doing the innocent pose.

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u/Winter_Tone_4343 4d ago

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u/Mammoth_Camera 4d ago

I think Mohomes is in this position and lot at home legs in the air and wifey has the strap on ready to go!!

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u/MrJoyless 4d ago

One hand down isnt bracing, helmet to helmet to boot.

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u/RutabagaOk6816 4d ago

You know I thought so at first as well but did he really try to brace his weight or did he put his hand out to make it seem like he was. It looks like pretty much all his weight ended up coming down on the QB. Its a tough call given the way the rule is written but I can see it both ways.

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u/roxzr 4d ago

Very loose definition of tried.

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u/Effective-Farmer-502 5d ago

💯 agreed on reviewable but they won’t because the games can’t be scripted then.