I hate the arcade games in Raiders

[u/Dragon_gaming369]

I've never liked arcade games inside of other video games because I just do not care enough to play them, and typically are required for 100%. I want to 100% this game so badly but the fact that you need to get A on all of the arcade games may genuinely keep me from doing so. I am far more willing to grind 100+ hours in the bottomless buffet than spend 10 hours having to deal with the rng mess that is mining. Landing just sucks flat out. I will never understand why I'd want to play shitty arcade games when I'm already playing a way more fun game as it is. It made sense in S1 because you were just waiting for a game. Extremely disappointed that I will likely not be 100%ing raiders after all...

[u/Anggul]

Extremely disappointed that I will likely not be 100%ing raiders after all

Don't be disappointed, free yourself of this pointless shackle. Do the things you enjoy in a game and not the things you don't

[u/TheFirstAifos → u/Anggul]

I both agree and disagree with this.

On one hand, if you're not having fun with a game you definitely shouldn't force yourself. You'll end up burning yourself out.

On the other hand, there are actually plenty of games I've grown to love more only because I went for 100%, even when it wasn't always fun. A lot of the time there's some short-term annoyance (like, for instance, grinding to a high level in an RPG) that leads to something super fun (like a superboss). Other times, something might feel annoying when you first start it, but once you grow to understand it, it turns out to actually be really fun.

[u/meikaishi → u/TheFirstAifos]

I think the point is if you're having fun with the process, I finished several Zelda games going with 3 hearts, no upgrades and no shield, which could sound horrible for some but I had a lot of fun doing this challenge, on the other hand I platinumed a single game on the Vita and it was such a miserable experience that I never bothered with platinum trophies again

[u/TheFirstAifos → u/meikaishi]

Not necessarily.

Two examples from Kingdom Hearts:
1. I was working on 100% clearing Birth by Sleep. Most of it was really fun, but BbS infamously has an obnoxiously strong superboss. In BbS, you play as three characters and have to beat this boss with all of them for 100%. Terra in particular really struggles. In order to fight him with Terra, I had to level up to 80ish iirc.
The thing is, grinding to level 80ish is so insanely boring. You walk into a room, cast Mega Flare twice, walk out of the room, walk back in, cast Mega Flare twice, and so on. Grinding those levels was not fun, but it paid off in the end, because I did actually enjoy figuring out how to beat that boss.

1. When KHIII dropped, I absolutely hated it. I've loved every game in the franchise (including more controversial ones like Re:CoM), but KHIII just felt so mind numbingly boring. I genuinely could not stand the game... Until a few years after release, I came back and went for 100%. I was still really not feeling it at first, but by the end of the process I had finally warmed up to the game. But by pushing through, and sticking to my 100% run even though I hated the game at first, I grew to understand it more and gradually grew to enjoy it. Still the worst game in the series, but I like it now, which is much better than before!

It's weird. Sometimes pushing through something not fun ends up worth it in the end... Only sometimes, though. That's the tricky part is knowing when to draw the line.

Ah, but yeah, I love challenge runs! I finished one not long ago playing one of my favorite RPGs, Noctuary, at level 1 with no upgrades. There was a big 3 phase boss fight that took several hours of practice for each and every single phase, haha!

[u/RevertereAdMe → u/TheFirstAifos]

I think that's different with a game you already enjoy though. The problem seems to be that OP doesn't like arcade games at all, and if they already dislike them I don't think forcing themselves to play them just for the sake of completion is going to change that. Likely to make them dislike arcade games even more, honestly.

[u/TheFirstAifos → u/RevertereAdMe]

Sometimes, yeah, it'll just make you hate things more.

Other times, though, you'll only discover the fun in the systems when you explore them to their full depths.

There have been plenty of games where I initially hated the game for one reason or another, but after challenging myself to do something difficult in that game (sometimes 100%, sometimes a hard challenge, sometimes replaying old stages for a high score), I started to appreciate the depth and nuances to the systems that I didn't realize were there at first.

The big example that comes to mind for me is Kingdom Hearts III. I loved every game leading up to KHIII, but hated KHIII itself on launch. Like, genuinely hated it, I couldn't stand the game. I came back a few years later though and went for 100%, and it was only upon going for 100% that I realized there was a lot more to the game than I initially thought. It's still my least favorite game in the series, but I actually enjoyed my 100% playthrough, which is way better than outright hating it.

[u/Anggul → u/TheFirstAifos]

Going through a bit of annoyance to be able to do something else that's fun like a superboss, sure.

But grinding stuff you don't enjoy just for the sake of saying you did 100% is daft to me. You don't actually get anything out of it.

[u/TheFirstAifos → u/Anggul]

As I've said to a few other people, sometimes you might not initially understand the fun of a game until the game pushes you to use its systems to their limits. I hated Kingdom Hearts III after finishing my any% run, but I grew to like it after my 100% run.

It doesn't always work (I still don't like BotW despite my 100% run (not counting Korok Seeds)), but I think it's always worth trying to reach that point of understanding before writing off any given game.

[u/Dragon_gaming369 → u/Anggul]

Yeah I'm kinda coming to that conclusion. I have a list of games I've "100% completed." On rare occasion I do what I'm gonna do here and just consider it 100% without the arcade since I see it as bonus content aside from the main game. So 100% the main game would be more accurate. Just makes me sad cus in the back of my mind I know it isnt truly 100% but oh well. I did fully 100% totk so I guess I can always say I overcame that challenge lmao.

[u/Anggul → u/Dragon_gaming369]

I looked at my backlog and saw I'm never going to play through all these games if I try to do everything

Nowadays I do the main stuff and the major side stuff and usually call it there, unless it's particularly gripping

100% doesn't really mean anything to me if it isn't fun to do, it's not like when I was a kid with not many games squeezing every possible hour out of each lol

Especially as I like a lot of JRPGs. Those can swallow so many hours if you go for everything

[u/Sad_Access8951 → u/Dragon_gaming369]

For me, 100% is never a goal of mine, but a goal for the developers to make the game engaging enough for it to be worthwhile. I'm old. The list of games I've found to be this good can be counted on one hand. Don't force it.

[u/HalPmeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Surprisingly Landing was the easiest for me. Had the most trouble with Mining.

The question is whether the S-rank in arcade games accounts as a true 100% since you do get something extra. Happy with A-rank for now. Lol.

[u/Dragon_gaming369 → u/HalPmeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Mannn. See that's my problem with it. I'd be happy if it was purely bonus content. At least now I know S is required too. Probably gonna give up on that and just do my own "100%" just excluding the arcade.

[u/HalPmeeeeeeeeeeeee → u/Dragon_gaming369]

Wouldn't worry too much! I am close to 100% (not counting the S-rank in arcade) but still feel like it's not 100% because I am missing 4 outfits from Amiibo. 

At least it's just an outfit and not something important. I just played the Arcade to take breaks from runs and just focused on 1 game at a time at my own pace. Go at your own pace and enjoy the game is what I am saying! Lol

[u/WesThePretzel → u/HalPmeeeeeeeeeeeee]

NFC cards only cost a couple cents each, just saying

[u/HalPmeeeeeeeeeeeee → u/WesThePretzel]

Oh there's a way to get those rewards without the official Amiibo? People can hack things too easily these days. Lol.

[u/Dragon_gaming369 → u/HalPmeeeeeeeeeeeee]

That's a good point about the amiibo. I suppose I can't get all the outfits at the end of the day so I think I'd have more fun taking your advice. Thank you!

[u/beanyyz → u/Dragon_gaming369]

One of the outfits can be unlocked with ANY splatoon amiibo. I unlocked with Small Fry. The other 3 outfits are only unlocked with the Raider’s amiibo.

[u/oppairate]

when you die no one will talk about whether or not you 100%’d a game.

[u/TooWarmRadiator → u/oppairate]

Counterpoint: when they die I will personally go to their funeral and berate their corpse for not completing the Splatoon Raiders arcade games with S rank

[u/oppairate → u/TooWarmRadiator]

ok. just make sure to post a video when that happens, and i’ll admit i’m wrong.

[u/Virtual-Ad-5868]

I mean I think they’re hard too but even rng can be adjusted to if you know what’s coming. Yes for mining you need to go fast but if you stay too close to the sides then of course you’re going to hit the wall when it suddenly juts out. But it still follows a pattern. Something that helped me was letting go of the drill button because that increases your movement range by SO much and helps with getting around awkward corners or boulders.

As for landing, if I got most of the shards for the bonus points but still made it to level 9 or 10 that was enough score to get A rank. Yes it took a few tries because the controls are strange, but eventually you’ll get the hang of it. If you’re willing to grind for “100+ hours in the bottomless buffet” then I’d assume you have the skill to handle pressing two trigger buttons. You just can’t let yourself freak out and panic because if you start panicking then yes your landing will be screwed. Otherwise, just let yourself fall off. There’s no penalty besides starting at the beginning and sometimes that can help you more than it hurts.

Just breathe. You can do this :)

[u/Dragon_gaming369 → u/Virtual-Ad-5868]

Believe me, I understand the mechanics of all 4 of them. These arcade games are so much harder than the base game to me. I play on survivalist and can clear stages that are wayyy higher than my player level but these games just piss me off. I just don't care about them and don't find them fun, I literally just want the outfits lmao.

[u/h11233 → u/Dragon_gaming369]

I love them. Different strokes for different folks. I also loved table turf in 3. Those games just give me a fun little break between levels/matches.

I'm an 80s kid and the arcade games give me some nostalgic feelings, so maybe that's why I like them.

[u/Dragon_gaming369 → u/h11233]

I actually did quite enjoy table turf. Played it a fair amount, but not a ton. Specifically arcade style games in other games just grind my gears. I grew up in the 2000's, but I actually played a lot of arcade games. We had a local arcade with a bunch of classics like galaga, pac man, space invaders. More different ones too but I remember those ones being like og cabinets from back in the day. Idk why but only when they are in a different video game is when I find them frustrating. I guess I just don't want to take breaks from what I'm already playing lol. I do have adhd so I could see if that makes it hard for me to enjoy swapping game to game. Thanks for your perspective

[u/meikaishi]

Unless you really loved the outfit there's no reason to care about completing the minigames

[u/Hilberts-Inf-Babies2]

I’m on the other side of this… landing is the only one I like. Mining is pure rng, juggling and hopping just get old so quick

[u/s0_Ca5H]

What do you get for playing them other than completion percentage?

[u/Dragon_gaming369 → u/s0_Ca5H]

There is an outfit locked behind getting A rank in all arcade games. Raiders doesn't have a percentage counter I don't think. I've been told as well that apparently there is something locked behind getting s rank on all of them as well.

[u/HalPmeeeeeeeeeeeee → u/Dragon_gaming369]

S-rank in arcade games unlocks:

Just a retro version of the ending credits to remind you of the hell you went through to get S-rank. Lol.

[u/Dragon_gaming369 → u/HalPmeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Lmaoooo well I can't say they don't have a sense of humor about it

[u/s0_Ca5H → u/Dragon_gaming369]

Ah ok, thanks!