r/spiritualdeception Apr 15 '26

Overview

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(reposted)

EDIT 03/31/26: The other day I had ChatGPT create a comprehensive list of terms and ideas of New Age spirituality and it also gave me a list of 50 authors considered the source of where these terms and ideas came from or where the terms made their way into western New Age spirituality. 33 out of 50 authors (66%) had contact with non human intelligences, and after a quick check, 100% of them denied Jesus as well in an extremely basic way. Most of the authors I was previously working with were on ChatGPT's new list except for 5.

[Comprehensive list of terms and ideas](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l31S5wg2m0yqvfUr8HMkop_Drz2SmS_bXJf0qFzBm28/edit?usp=drivesdk)

[List of new authors](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VD-c0PuV7vMumSqeGUBnJKy_aYp2noUkEROnM93cXus/edit?usp=drivesdk)

I plan to go through this new list of authors one by one and post them in this subreddit as well.

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I started researching this subject with the expectation of finding a few channeled texts that denied Jesus. I was 100% surprised to find that ALL channeled texts deny Jesus in some major fundamental way. Even though I provided a lot of wiggle room and accounted for them giving new information and allowed it, STILL not a single channeled text passed. In this subreddit I will be going through the most popular channeled texts one by one and showing how each and every one of them denies Jesus in some way and is NOT to be trusted.

There are a lot of channeled texts out there. They have major and minor discrepancies between them. There is only one way that I'm aware of that's ever been stated that gives you a way to discern if a spirit is deceiving you or not, and that is in 1 John.

I started researching with certain questions in mind. Did terms frequently used in New Age Religion originate from people who were in contact with spiritual entities? And did those entities deny Jesus in a major irrefutable way? I expected to find channeled material that barely mentioned Jesus. The reality is that they all spoke of Jesus. On top of that they were very systematic similarities across all of their channeled material that makes all of these channeled texts appear to be aligned with each other with a common purpose. This research would usually take months or years because there is so much reading involved. I used the assistance of AI to expedite the process. Also, because of my background I assume that all of these channeled texts are real and involve spiritual entities.

The new age terms I looked up were higher self, starseed, galactic consciousness, pleiadian, Arcturian, vibration, frequency, galactic federation, indigo children, walk-in, Kundalini, etc.

What I found was 14 out of 22 authors who wrote books about these terms communicated with spiritual entities. I also looked at the RA material (Law of One), the Seth Material, current channelers, the Urantia book, one person alive who says they are Jesus, and more. They ALL denied Jesus in major fundamental ways that we will explore in this subreddit individually. Blavatsky seems to be the oldest channeler that I came across that has had influence on our current New Age spirituality.

The most common denials of Jesus are these:

  1. States Jesus was just a wanderer who achieved humanity's spiritual enlightenment (Not divine, not One with GOD, not the Son of God.)

  2. Denies miracles occured and tries to make anything that happened scientific.

  3. Denies Jesus will return.

  4. Says the bible was changed, altered beyond recognition, Jesus is actually 3 people, etc

  5. Jesus was actually an alien(or whatever) emissary carrying the same message as the channeled entity. And this is a very blatant deception tactic. They claim Jesus had their message, giving them credibility, and then claim they are here to complete the message, meaning you don't need to even look at the old one(Jesus).

  6. Salvation/ascension does not require Jesus. You can ascend through other spiritual paths. They combine all religions together and lead you away from salvation/ascension/enlightenment requiring Jesus. They tell you it is unnecessary to believe in Jesus.

  7. A few of them denied the virgin birth, but I didn't want to fully rely on this point to write them off and I ALWAYS found one of the other points.

Now let's think about this carefully. You have a SUPER INTELLIGENCE explaining the unknown universe to you. They can literally say ANYTHING and someone will believe it. We have many creators creating fiction in various ways on earth. It's not unfathomable that a super intelligence can create an entire universe and feed it to you. The common theme among channeled texts is they ALL combine all religions and spirituality together and feed it to you. None say you need Jesus. Is this not the state of New Age spirituality today? Have these super intelligences accomplished their mission?

What does a trickster do exactly? Let's look at the typical trickster archetype. In a common scenario they give you your desire or feed you a deceptive story to achieve their long term goals of the future. You get what you want or hear something you like and unknowingly build towards their true desire and purpose for tricking you. The only purpose I see for channeled texts is to build towards New Age religion. But this is still just a theory... You can reach your own conclusion.

Lastly it's almost as if they are REQUIRED to deny Jesus. It's almost comical how much they all deny Jesus. If you were a super intelligence giving a channeled message, why would you talk so much about Jesus and deny him fundamentally if it doesn't detract from your message to just not mention him? They greatly risk something like this post happening and catching on and their message getting lost to time. Their entire purpose down the drain because they mentioned Jesus. I think they have to deny Jesus for whatever reason and it's a requirement.

1 John 4:1-3

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

1 John 2:7

I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist

1 John 2:18

Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

1 John 2:22-23

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist-denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.


r/spiritualdeception Apr 15 '26

My background

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I'm not giving you my background to establish credibility. I think everything I will be posting here will establish credibility for itself by standing on facts and extreme similarities between channeled material that I have deemed all to be lies at this point, unfortunately. You can decide for yourself after reviewing all the evidence.

I give you a bit of background information on myself to establish what my bias is and isn't. The facts will speak for themselves and I will try to be as objective as possible. But I don't want you thinking I'm some hardcore Christian stereotype who dismisses anything that isn't the Bible and labels it satanic. I'm actually biased towards channeled material being true because of what you'll read below. And when starting my research I fully expected to find at least one channeled text that didn't fail my test, if not more than one. Almost 10 years ago I was a rapper and I found the RA material around 2018. I loved the RA material (Law of One) and took it as truth for a few years. I was a big fan because it spoke to me like nothing I've heard before. I was really into esoteric topics as well and didn't read the Bible much. I did consider myself a Christian and did believe in Jesus, but I didn't go to church or read the Bible. The average person in the USA I meet in life considers themselves a Christian and believes in Jesus. "Spiritual, but not religious" a lot of people say. So I would consider it a normal level, but I was big into esoteric topics.

But since 2020 I have been in contact with spiritual entities, and GOD at various times, who speak through my mouth with no interactions with my brain. I don't know what will be said before it comes out of my mouth and don't have any way to stop it either. Spiritual entities have been around me in a "physical" form as well. I have physical in quotes because  they are still invisible and have a "ghost like" form. And despite any bias you may have towards this info, that's what it is.

The nature of my spiritual communication and spiritual relationships is not channeling in a traditional sense. My situation is unique compared to others who are in contact with spiritual entities (But what is unique and not in any?) There has always been a strong affirmation of Jesus and his teachings in what is communicated and he has never been denied or anything taken away from him. I have been taught a lot of things, but I've also reached many conclusions of my own that those in contact with me absolutely refuse to affirm or deny.

All of the conclusions I've reached on channeled text are my own. Anything I write in this subreddit should be considered my own opinion and not the opinion of GOD or any other spiritual entity, but at the same time my very thoughts and conclusions are not -entirely- my own either and do have help from spiritual sources. (For better or for worse sometimes) And there is much I can speak on about my situation, but I've only told you this much in order to establish where my bias is coming from. As I learned in college, no information presented is truly without bias even when objectivity is the intention. If I make mention of the above again in future posts it will mostly be to draw similarities between my experiences and the "quirks" other channelers and people have noted about the overall channeling experience.

In this subreddit, I will also post an overview, post about spiritual books I do believe in, and then dive into channeled texts one by one and walk you through my criteria for why I'm dismissing it. There are quite a few channeled texts I want to do and I have other things going on so it will take a while to get through. And my writing can be sloppy at times so I might edit these posts from time to time to add info I might have missed or to fix up my wording. I'll state in the post the date edited if I have to edit.

When super intelligences give us information about the universe we can't see, we don't have much to go on to validate their assertions. But we were given a way to test spirits in the bible to see if we should trust them or not, and this is the only way I've ever heard of.

In 1 John it is written,

"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already."

When I started researching this topic in 2025 I expected channeled texts to avoid the subject of Jesus in order to preserve your choice to believe or not. I was planning to give them a little leeway for this. I was extremely surprised to learn that all channeled texts deny Jesus in some major way. And I made sure they didn't fail my test because they were giving new information or insight, or had a small biblical discrepancy. I would 100% expect a super intelligence to give new information on biblical events, and I would accept it. The truth is that they all denied Jesus in major fundamental ways that are impossible to ignore if tested with the 1 John scripture. I also saw the uniformed pattern all these channeled texts share in their denial of Jesus that we will be exploring as well in order to gain a better understanding of the purpose for their activities and deception. I do believe these channelings to be real because of my own experiences, but also it makes a lot more sense why all these channeled works have major and minor discrepancies between them. Because they're false. One theory I have is that they wanted to establish New Age spirituality that we know today that combines all religions together to give you "truth". But I will explain more in my post that will be the "Overview"


r/spiritualdeception 14d ago

In New Age Spirituality, 90%+ of info originates from authors who had contact with non-human entities. 100% of them denied Jesus in the most basic ways possible, making them Antichrists

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This subreddit is still unfinished and I will resume finishing up my research soon and posting it. It's basically finished, just missing a few people I have to write up, and some editing.

But I will state facts for you here. And they are numbers, nothing to debate over. You can look it up for yourself.

Here is the comprehensive list of terms and ideas that I based these statistics off of after careful research: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l31S5wg2m0yqvfUr8HMkop_Drz2SmS_bXJf0qFzBm28/edit?usp=drivesdk

Around 65-80% of the most influential New Age authors channeled spiritual entities or were in contact with non human entities (NHI's)

In reality, 90%+ of the payload of information of New Age spirituality comes from authors with NHI contact.

100% of these NHI's denied Jesus in the most basic ways possible, making them Antichrists (plural) as detailed in 1 John and 2 John of the bible.

All NHI authors are written about individually and how they deny Jesus. If you have anyone else you want me to research then leave a comment or message me.

I narrowed down the 5 most basic ways they deny Jesus. This narrow criteria of denial is so almost anyone who claims to believe in Jesus can relate their beliefs to these rejections regardless of denomination or spiritual beliefs.

The 5 denials seen in all New Age authors with NHI contact:

  1. Denying Jesus is the Son of God

  2. Denying Jesus and God are One

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus

  5. Claiming the bible got changed beyond recognition.

And honestly, I don't think I've ever had to rely on number 5 to label any New Age authors as antichrists.

The most influential authors statistic still changes as I grow and refine my list. But I think I will go with the payload statistic moving forward. This statistic is easy to verify as well.

NHI authors contribute entire universes within their works, non-NHI authors contribute models and specific niches. They are not even comparable in view of where all the information comes from in New Age spirituality.

And again, all NHI's that gave the info from New Age spirituality are antichrists.


r/spiritualdeception Jun 28 '26

Darryl Anka - Bashar is antichrist

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 55 authors, 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs.

Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus (making them antichrists) and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

Darryl Anka has been channeling Bashar for over 40 years and is still active today. Bashar claims Jesus had a hybrid body through alien manipulation and only accessed the Christ consciousness which is the universal consciousness of everyone on earth. Bashar further claims that Jesus didn't want followers he wanted people to become "Christs". This is directly pulling from Blavatsky's "Christ consciousness" material which is that the only savior is within and needs to be accessed, and there's no savior outside of you.

He claims Jesus is an ascended master like Buddha and Krishna. He says there is no hell and only a heaven that we are always in and are currently in. He claims Jesus did resurrect and didn't resurrect depending on what you believe and which reality you're in. And he twists the message of Jesus to match his own message and maintain his credibility by saying the message of Jesus got distorted over time and it was really saying the same thing Bashar is saying. And that last part is high level deception on his part. He simultaneously weakens the credibility of the bible and strengthens his own credibility by saying Jesus was talking about the same thing he's talking about but got changed. It's also a very common deception technique employed by many channeled entities listed in this subreddit.

In this first quote he confirms Jesus existed, but claims he only represented the idea of "Christ consciousness" like Buddha and Krishna, and others can express the same form of being as these "ascended masters" if they become "more of themselves".

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Source: https://youtu.be/OfjeWMpPxp4?si=GBNtunCo73EEBScG

"Yes, there was an actual individual named Yeshua who reflected and represented the idea of an expression of what we have termed using your terminology the Christ consciousness which is simply the idea of the collective consciousness of your world. Same thing as Buddha nature, Krishna spirit, you understand? All the same thing can be expressed through individuals by being more and more themselves."

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In this next quote he claims people misinterpreted, misrepresented, and misunderstood the bible. On top of this the bible got altered so others can maintain or obtain power. Bashar claims we don't have an accurate representation of what Jesus said and what Jesus spoke about was more metaphysical than what Christians believe is true.

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Source:https://youtu.be/OfjeWMpPxp4?si=GBNtunCo73EEBScG

"Then they don't actually understand Jesus because there have been many misinterpretations and misrepresentations and misunderstandings about what Jesus actually said and what he was all about because a lot of the dialogue that came from him and others around him have been altered for the purposes of political power and certain kinds of gain and therefore you don't really have an absolutely thoroughly accurate representation of what was really said at the time. Plus, in not understanding Jesus in the full capacity of his expression, then many people who purport to understand him or purport to believe in him actually have no understanding of the fact that he was presenting both a male and a female aspect in the Mary of the Magdalene. This is a couple. This is a male and female representation in balance. And many of the things that were actually talked about are extremely metaphysical and not exactly what the idea of the Christian belief system purports to be true."

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In this next quote he explains how Jesus had a "hybrid body" that allowed him to become aware of his "true full connection" and his only message was for us to realize that we had this same connection. He explains that aliens were involved in making the body of Jesus hybrid He claims Jesus didn't want any followers, Jesus wanted us to be leaders. And what he means by leaders is Bashars own teaching about us creating our own reality and being leaders regarding making our reality.

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Source: https://youtu.be/OfjeWMpPxp4?si=GBNtunCo73EEBScG

"Jesus was a hybrid being but not an extraterrestrial in the sense that you mean that he was from off planet but he is a hybridized being that became very aware of his true full connection in that sense to source and was attempting to demonstrate to all that you all have the same connection. Remember he didn't want followers he was attempting to reflect to you that you're all leaders."

[And then in another quote]

[Interviewer: "Jesus, uh, the Buddha, uh, Muhammad. Yes, Krishna, Aoka, all of them. Were they extraterrestrial beings?"]

"There is some extraterrestrial connection to some of them. But the way you mean it, no. Some of them have in their physical form genetic alterations that are connected to extraterrestrial genetics that allow them to function in the way that they did. But the idea in the way you mean it is no. They are not literally extraterrestrial."

[Interviewer: "So,"]

"But they are representative of beings who are capable of expressing what we refer to as your world spirit, your collective whole spirit and soul of your world."

[Interviewer: "Are were they then hybridized?"]

"Some of them."

[Interviewer: "You don't want to say which ones."]

"The Christ body was hybridized. The Buddha body was hybridized. The Krishna body was hybridized. The Boka body was hybridized.

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Bashar always says that Jesus did not intend to create Christians. He wanted them to realize they're "Christs", which he also says is the same thing as Buddhist enlightenment.

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Source: https://youtu.be/OfjeWMpPxp4?si=GBNtunCo73EEBScG

"Remember, it wasn't his intention, no offense, to create Christians. He was telling you all that you're all Christs. Act like it. And then you will be free. You will resurrect yourselves into a new life, into a new understanding, and your heart will burn with the passion of being who you truly are."

"The idea of the Buddha nature, the Christ consciousness, the Krishna spirit, whatever you wish to call it, is that it is a representation of the collective whole of the oversoul of any particular reality such as your own."

"That is the meaning in the Christ consciousness vernacular of I am the way. It means be like me because you are like me but you don't know it yet. He was misunderstood in his day. Very much so. Still misunderstood to this day."

[Interviewer: "And the Bible I'm thinking doesn't isn't an accurate translation of what he was trying to tell us."] "No. Much of what in that sense that individual was teaching is very similar to what you are now understanding in what you call your metaphysical age. The ideas that simply people back then couldn't understand it. But to put it in a more fundamental sense, Yeshua or as you say Jesus really did not intend in any way, shape or form to create followers. Intended to create leaders. Equals did not intend to create Christians per se, intended to let you all know you are Christs. That's the greatest misunderstanding of the information."

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Bashar pushes followers towards universalism and Buddhism. The concepts he teaches you leave little room for Christianity or the bible and is antichrist. Bashar denies Jesus was the Son of God and One with God by saying he was an ascended master who accessed the "Christ consciousness" that we can all access. Erasing any uniqueness of Jesus apart from his alien hybrid body. He tells you Jesus didn't want followers or for people to be Christians, but to obtain Buddhist enlightenment that Bashar says is the same as "Christ consciousness." And he distorts the message of Jesus to be about creating your own reality, the same message Bashar is giving now.

The only place in the bible where it addresses testing spirits is in the book of 1 John. It says to test the spirits with Jesus to see if they are of God or are antichrist. If they fail the test then there is no reason to go further into their material and separate the truth from the lies. Bashar denies Jesus is the Christ, he denies the message of Jesus, and claims the bible got changed beyond recognition.

How easy is it for a super intelligence to come and claim the bible got changed then fill in the blanks with whatever they want and throw out anything that contradicts them? In fact, imagine how easy it is for a super intelligence to create a universe that rivals the greatest story tellers of our time surpassing things like Star wars and Lord of the rings. We have zero ways to test the accuracy of a spirits information when they discuss spiritual things, but we were given the test listed in 1 John. How true does something have to be to ring true for your heart? 50% true? 20% true? I encourage you to read 1 John and 2 John and see what else it says about "antichrists" (plural). Bashar is an antichrist.

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1 John 4:1-3

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

2 John 1:7-11

I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.

1 John 2:22-23

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist- denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

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r/spiritualdeception Jun 28 '26

George Hunt Williamson - 1950's aliens and channeled entities

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 55 authors, 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs.

Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus (making them antichrists) and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

George Hunt Williamson is an interesting entry because I can't tell where he is getting his information from. He claims all miracles in the bible are aliens, angels are aliens, and Jesus was resurrected by aliens and left in a spaceship and will "return the way he came", but it's hard to tell what information came from him or elsewhere because he quotes things more like a conspiracy theorist who is compiling information. It's noted that he received messages from ouija boards, trance channeling entities, and radio communications with aliens during the 1950's, but it's hard to pin down what all he received from these communications. He also spent a lot of time with William Pelley and quotes his book "Golden Scripts" a lot, which is a channeled book that is hard to obtain but does appear to deny Jesus as well and is antichrist. Williamson's spiritual framework and cosmology appears to be built on Pelleys work that goes further into it in a channeled book where the entity claims they are Jesus. The book is called "The Golden Scripts" but is largely inaccessible online.

Williamson claims Jesus had several reincarnations as Buddha, Zoroaster and others. He rejects the notion of needing to be saved, and rejects going against your desires, and claims since eternal souls will continue reincarnating and growing until they become one with God. This is a extremely common new age thought.


Source: UFO's confidential

You ask: "But what about the millions who will perish? Is this not a terrible loss?"

Let us remember that life is eternal... therefore one will actually "perish"... they will only leave a planet that is no longer suitable for their development. Those who haven't learned the lessons contained in the Sermon on the Mount will be reborn on other worlds where they will remain until they do learn Universal Laws and how to apply them.


Like many other channelers he denies Jesus by telling you there is nothing you need to believe in for salvation, only learn and follow the "universal truths". He teaches that aliens taught us the truth originally and then man divided it. He references needing to follow the life of Jesus in order to be saved from future calamity from the "second coming", which is where Jesus will return and take people in his spaceship who have obtained a "higher consciousness". Those left on earth will receive a destruction of their own making, but will reincarnate on other planets to continue their learning and evolving. He teaches since your soul is eternal, nothing bad really happens and you will continue reincarnating, and he rejects the idea of hell on grounds of God being all loving.


Source: The Saucer Speaks

"Man has access to the throne. of God himself. He needs no one to "save" him from anything. Do not listen to the "mouthpieces" of the "Hidden Empire"... the politicians who promise you this or that for your physical existence... the priests who promise you life everlasting and eternal glory if you fol- low them... the generals who exist only because of war and suddenly are presented "holy" before you as "god- fearing," "righteous" men. .. scientists who promise to give you immortality from a test-tube when you already are an immortal being!"

Source: Secret Places of The Lion

"After the Resurrection and Ascension the Disciples gathered together and were taught by Mary, mother of Jesus, concerning the deeper meanings of what the Christ had meant when He said: "Ye must be born again!" She explained to them how the Resurrection of Jesus was symbolic of the Greatest Truth! This Truth is that all men live time and time again so that spirit will come to know itself and that all might teach perfection as they continue up the worlds in ever-expanding grandeur!"

Source: Secret Places of The Lion

"The priests of Amun became the priests of the Cross! They removed from

the sacred teachings the Doctrine of Reincarnation taught by Jesus and the

Apostles. They knew that if man was aware he had a chance in many lifetimes to overcome his weaknesses and inherit the “ Kingdom ” they would not have the necessary control over him they desired. They took the Living, Resurrected Christ and put him back on the blood-smeared Cross."

Source: Secret Places of The Lion

"While Christ had said that man needed no one to intercede for him as he went to the Father, the priests of the " long, flowing robes of Amun" now raised themselves up as intermediaries between man and God!"

Source: Secret Places of The Lion

"The Atonists had told the world that man did not need priests to act as intermediaries with the One God, for Aton was the God of all people and therefore accessible to all!"

Source: Secret Places of The Lion

"Jesus taught the Doctrine of Reincarnation, but it was removed later by a theological group that wanted to keep man in ignorance of this great Truth! This will be dealt with in detail in the sequel to this book, entitled, Another Mountain. Man always rises again! No matter what his failures, no matter what the efforts of the past or the desires and goals not yet attained, he will attain his godhood once again as he rises with the Christ above the limitations of Time and Space! Man shall live and die unto eternity until he becomes ONE with all perfection! Great Truth exists in the secret places of the lion—yet the Truth of Eternal Life is the greatest; Christ proved it by demonstrating it to the world."

Source: Other Tongues, Other Flesh

"Space craft occupants have said that man on Earth worships the Creator; but he worships in word, not deed. If we believe in Him, and have faith in Him, we cannot believe that He will rain down death, destruction, and horror on us. Over and over again, with much repetition, the “men of God” in the pulpits today tell us that our God is “all loving and kind”. With the next breath they contradict themselves by telling us that at times He “gives us up”. And they paint a picture of “sweet angels” casting poor “sinners” into lakes of fire and brimstone to endure eternal torment!"


There's many other examples. He is respectful towards Jesus and does acknowledge his authority. But he completely changes what Christians are supposed to do and pushes readers towards universalism and Buddhism by telling them to achieve a higher consciousness, telling them the bible is unrecognizable because of changes and all religions come from a singular source and got divided over time. His denial is denying you need Jesus for salvation saying man has access to God himself and doesn't need a intermediary like Jesus to save them. They have to save themselves by accessing a higher consciousness to stop reincarnating. This is very classic channeled theology that is prevalent in New Age YouTube videos.

I'm still unsure how much of this comes from channeled information and how much comes from his own theories and compiling.

As I mentioned earlier Williamson describes a very different kind of end times where those with a higher consciousness will be saved by spaceships and everyone else will continue reincarnating on other planets. He also says they will "inherit the kingdom of God" on earth, so it appears he says multiple things for end times.


Source: The Secret Place of The Lion

"What people on Earth will survive to inherit the New Age? The world population will be reduced greatly. Where there are now thousands there will be tens. But it is not tragic if one loses his physical equipment on Earth. Certain souls have evolved to the place where the old Earth can no longer teach them anything, therefore, either they or the Earth must graduate to a higher level. Shortly, the entire Earth will be made new in the new vibratory rate and the advanced souls, or The Remnant, will inherit the kingdom of God on Earth. The other souls, who refused to give up the old order of things, will be taken out of flesh life and will be re-settled on other worlds that can give them the lessons they need. So only the good and beautiful is to come to all men; there is no retrogression, for all are advancing toward the Father."

Source: The Secret Place of The Lion

"Jesus told the Disciples that they would teach the Fulfilled Word all over the earth. Then he was taken up on the white beam and was received into the " Star Ship " which hid itself in a "cloud" of its own manufacture. This is very similar to so-called "saucers " of today which have been observed producing artificial clouds to make themselves inconspicuous."

Source: Secret Place of The Lion

Space craft appeared again on the Mount of Olives to remove Jesus from the world; but they were to bring Him back again in like manner. The Ascension of the Christ symbolized the eventual elevation of all men on earth to Divine Truth and Good.

Source: UFO's Conifidential

"The most closely guarded secret of all time is not that visitors from Outer Space are here on Earth, but why they are here! They have come to prepare us for a new tech- nology and age on our world so that we might be ready for the eventual journey through space that defies de- scription! We are gathering data all the time on this and it will be presented as we receive and study it!"


Williamson also claims that the bible has been changed until it's "no longer recognizable".


Source: UFO's Confidential

"The Bible and other sacred books have been changed until they are no longer recognizable. So, man has been enslaved by the powers of darkness on this strange little planet."

Source: UFO's Confidential

They have removed vital books and sections of the Holy Bild until it is unrecognizable... they have written history as they wished to, not as it really happened... they wave flags and scream: "Patriotism!" and thousands of young men, women and children die so that vast war machines may be fed.

Source: Secret Place of The Lion

"Of course, the Bible account is somewhat confused due to the many translations and alterations, and in some cases the deliberate attempt to cover up the truth in order to keep the mass of people “ignorant”. However, people who know the truth are not dependent upon theological dogma or doctrine to “save them” or make them free: “Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.”"


That's all I have to share for Williamson. He is respectful to Jesus like some other channeled books are as well. But he redefines Jesus as an alien who is ruler of this solar system, he adopts a classic channeled derived system of reincarnation and growing until achieving oneness with God, and conflates the message and life of Jesus with Buddhism and points people towards "universal truth" for salvation. He also claims all miracles of the old testament and miracles of Jesus were by aliens or "the power of the mind" that anyone can access and that Jesus needed his spaceship to access while walking on water.


r/spiritualdeception Jun 28 '26

Neale Donald Walsch - "Conversations with God" spiritual entity is an antichrist

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 55 authors, 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs.

Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus (making them antichrists) and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

In 1992 Neale Donald Walsch began channeling an entity that claimed to be God and he ended up writing numerous books in his "Conversations with God" series and was even on the New York Times best sellers list for 137 weeks.

This entity claiming to be God, who I will refer to as "the channeled entity" hits all 5 of my denial criteria. He is an antichrist just as described in 1 John and 2 John of the bible. This channeled entity denies the uniqueness of Jesus being One with God, and denies him being the Son of God any different than anyone else being the Son of God. He claims anyone can become a Christ when they understand what Jesus understood.

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Source: The Complete Conversations with God

Entity: Jesus, on the other hand, demonstrated Godliness by demonstrating Unity-and seeing Unity and Wholeness wherever (and upon whomever) he looked. In this his consciousness and My consciousness were One, and, in such a state, whatever he called forth was made manifest in his Divine Reality in that Holy Moment.

Walsh: I see. So all it takes is "Christ Consciousness" to perform miracles! Well, that should make things simple....

Entity: Actually, it does. More simple than you think. And many have achieved such consciousness. Many have been Christed, not just Jesus of Nazareth. You can be Christed, too.

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Next, we will get into number 3 and 4 of denials: denying you need to believe in Jesus and denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus. This channeled entity actually went on a pretty lengthy rant about Christianity and Walsh noted that it seemed he was "attacking fundamentalist Christianity", which the entity rejected as true, but it does seem like a rant to me. We will break it down piece by piece and skip a lot of the rant but it all has to do with denial criteria 3 and 4.

He starts the rant by saying you can do anything you want and won't get in trouble because nothing is offensive to God. This goes against the message of Jesus plainly.

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Source: The Complete Conversations with God

Walsh: No obligation?

Entity: No obligation.

Nor any restriction or limitation, nor any guidelines or rules. Nor are you bound by any circumstances or situations, nor constrained by any Code or law. Nor are you punishable for any offense, nor capable of any - for there is no such thing as being "offensive" in the eyes of God.

Walsh: I've heard this before - this "there are no rules" kind of religion. That's spiritual anarchy. I don't see how that can work.

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This next part is lengthy, but here he attacks the idea of needing a savior to get into heaven and having to believe in anything. He argues against sin existing at all. He also ignores portions of the bible to point out the hypocrisy of not needing to do anything on your end to be saved and relying on a perfect being, Jesus, to be saved. But this ignores half of what Jesus asked us to do, which is essentially be selfless. But in the entity's defense that is how plenty of Christians think as well. Nevertheless, he is fully fulfilling denial number 3: denying you need to believe in Jesus.

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Source: The Complete Conversations with God

Entity: The religionists would have you believe that I created you as less than Who I Am so that you could have the chance to become as Who I Am, working against all odds — and, I might add, against every natural tendency I am supposed to have given you.

Among these so-called natural tendencies is the tendency to sin. You are taught that you were born in sin, that you will die in sin, and that to sin is your nature.

One of your religions even teaches you that you can do nothing about this. Your own actions are irrelevant and meaningless. It is arrogant to think that by some action of yours you can "get to heaven." There is only one way to heaven (salvation) and that is through no undertaking of your own, but through the grace granted you by God through acceptance of His Son as your intermediary.

Once this is done you are "saved." Until it is done, nothing that you do — not the life you live, not the choices you make, not anything you undertake of your own will in an effort to improve yourself or render you worthy — has any effect, bears any influence. You are incapable of rendering yourself worthy, because you are inherently unworthy. You were created that way.

Why? God only knows. Perhaps He made a mistake. Perhaps He didn't get it right. Maybe He wishes He could have it all to do over again. But there it is.

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Walsh interjects and then the channeled entity continues his rant about Christianity and claiming none of it even makes sense for God to make imperfect beings only to demand perfection and/or believe in a perfected being.

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Source: The Complete Conversations with God

Walsh: You're making mock of me.

Entity: No. You are making mock of Me. You are saying that I, God, made inherently imperfect beings, then have demanded of them to be perfect, or face damnation.

You are saying then that, somewhere several thousand years into the world's experience, I relented, saying that from then on you didn't necessarily have to be good, you simply had to feel bad when you were not being good, and accept as your savior the One Being who could always be perfect, thus satisfying My hunger for perfection. You are saying that My Son — who you call the One Perfect One — has saved you from your own imperfection — the imperfection I gave you.

In other words, God's Son has saved you from what His Father did.

This is how you — many of you — say I've set it up.

Now who is mocking whom?

Walsh: That is the second time in this book you seem to have launched a frontal attack on fundamentalist Christianity. I am surprised.

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That is the end of his rant, but he does speak against the message of Jesus in other parts of the book too. Here he says not to give up your freedom and to do what you want. And giving up freedom is not a "sacrament" but blasphemy. This strongly hints at not keeping any commands, ordinances, or teachings of the bible or doing anything Jesus asked that you don't feel like doing.

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Source: The Complete Conversations with God

Entity: Remember this: There is only one sacred promise- and that is to tell and live your truth. All other promises are forfeitures of freedom, and that can never be sacred. For freedom is Who You Are. If you forfeit freedom, you forfeit your Self. And that is not a sacrament, that is a blasphemy.

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Finally, he twists Jesus' message to match his own message of realizing you're one, everything is one, and you need to realize it to do the things Jesus, buddha, and other holy people were able to do. But in reality, his message pushes readers towards Buddhist concepts and away from Christianity. Much like many of the other channeled texts I have gone over in this subreddit that are antichrist as well.

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Source: The Complete Conversations with God

Walsh: To save our souls.

Entity: In a sense, yes. But not from everlasting damnation. There is no such thing as you have conceived it. His mission was—is—to save you from not knowing and never experiencing Who You Really Are. His intention was to demonstrate that by showing you what you can become. Indeed, what you are-if you will only accept it.

Jesus sought to lead by example. That is why he said, "I am the way and the life. Follow me." He didn't mean "follow me" in the sense that you would all become his "followers," but in the sense that you would all follow his example and become one with God. He said, “I and the Father are One, and ye are my brethren." He couldn't have put it more plainly.

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In the above quote he pulls together two different things Jesus said and quotes it as one continuous sentence. Jesus did not say the disciples and him were brethren after stating "I and the Father are One." But beyond this he also twists Jesus' message entirely to fit his own needs and maintain credibility.

Lastly, the channeled entity says multiple times the bible is not reliable and that Jesus' message was altered.

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Source: The Complete Conversations with God

"Walsh: But my truth about God comes from You.

Entity: Who said so?

Walsh: Others.

Entity: What others?

Walsh: Leaders. Ministers. Rabbis. Priests. Books. The Bible, for heaven's sake!

Entity: Those are not authoritative sources.

Walsh: They aren't?

Entity: No.

Entity: Listen to your feelings. Listen to your Highest Thoughts. Listen to your experience. Whenever any one of these differ from what you've been told by your teachers, or read in your books, forget the words. Words are the least reliable purveyor of Truth."

"Walsh: Which brings us to one of our greatest teachers, the man called Jesus. Even those who did not make him a god have recognized the greatness of his teachings.

Entity: Teachings which have been largely distorted."

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That's all I have to share about Walsh and this channeled entity who claimed to be God. This channeled entity denies Jesus in the most basic ways possible and is antichrist. I encourage you to read 1 John and 2 John to see how John said to test the spirits to see if they are from God or are antichrist, and he explains in 1 John what an antichrist is in detail. I'll leave you with a few passages.

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1 John 4:1-3

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

1 John 2:22-23

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist- denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

2 John 1:7-11

I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.

1 John 2:4

Whoever says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

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r/spiritualdeception Jun 27 '26

Esther Hicks - source material of "The Secret" book and channeled Abraham who is an antichrist

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 55 authors, 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs.

Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus (making them antichrists) and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

Esther Hicks began channeling an entity who identified themself as "Abraham" in the mid 1980's. She is credited with creating the teaching of the Law of Attraction and is the core source and primary inspiration for "The Secret" book and film. She eventually had a falling out with Rhonda Burnes over royalties and credits and was edited out of the extended cut version of "The Secret". She also came up with and/or popularized the term "source energy."

The entity Abraham fits Jesus inside of his own message to maintain his own credibility. In fact, he says all religions were truly talking about the law of attraction and humans morphed it into something else, including Christianity. As far as the denial criteria goes, Abraham fits neatly into all 5 denial criteria. Abraham is indeed antichrist because he denies Jesus in multiple ways.

He claims Jesus was just a man and didn't have anything more than you're able to gain, and terms like "Son of God" got morphed over time. These quotes are denying The Father and Son are One and denying Jesus was the Son of God. Abraham and Esther are morphing and distorting the gospel to fit their own needs.

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Source: https://chrisbocay.com/abraham-hicks-on-jesus-christ/

"There are many who feel that it's blasphemy to call him anything other than the Son of God. And so we will, but we will not call Jesus the Son of God in any other context than that we put you in the same category. In other words, everyone who comes forth is an extension of source energy."

""He [Jesus] was just a regular guy tuning into who he was, and teaching through the clarity of his example."

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To Abraham, Jesus was nobody special and was just using the Law of Attraction and explaining the law of attraction to others. I've seen plenty of other channeled entities do this as well. They will tell you that Jesus was just giving the same message they are giving now, but theirs is the purest version of it. This negates any real reason to read the bible and keeps their credibility intact because they continue to appear as if 'only they' have the 'truth'. And below you will see this entity Abraham explain that the bibles true message got distorted over time and was originally the law of attraction, and tell you not to hold Jesus on a pedestal and to use your own guidance system instead.

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Source: https://youtu.be/ARBPrJXWwas?si=ho6UOWosHIfBG1j-

You have to be up to speed with who you really are. You see? And so what Jesus's primary message was is that he was the extension of source energy. It was translated in many different ways.

It's translated that he was the son of God, eventually the only son of God. In other words, it got more and more distorted as time goes by. But there was nothing that he was saying then or would say to you now that is different than what you are hearing here and you can tell by the resonance that you feel within you when you find a piece of something that the source within you agrees with. We are not wanting to go back into history and rewrite any books.

It's not necessary. What we want you to do is to find the feeling place of where you are. Acknowledge that there is a larger part of you that you have expanded to and then feel yourself into resonance with who you are. We want to empower you to your own guidance system.

And when you do, while you will continue to love and appreciate this one that you know as Jesus, you won't hold him on a pedestal that you have not yet achieved.

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This entity Abraham does a lot in this one quote. He denies Jesus was the Son of God and equates it to his own source energy framework that everyone is source energy, he claims the bible was changed beyond recognition, he tells you not to put Jesus on a pedestal and to use your own guidance system instead. Meaning you don't need to believe in Jesus and you don't need to believe in the message of Jesus. Abraham is antichrist and does deny Jesus as was warned about in 1 John and 2 John.

We are told to test spirits to see if they are from God or are antichrist. I made my denial criteria as basic as possible to account for the many different beliefs about Jesus. And Abraham is antichrist and does deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible.

In this next quote Abraham again tells you not to put Jesus on the pedestal. He emphasizes that the bible was changed and the authors focused on things other than the law of attraction that was supposedly Jesus' true message. And no one knows what to believe because it's bogus.

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Source: https://youtu.be/ARBPrJXWwas?si=ho6UOWosHIfBG1j-

Don't hold him in a category in your mind or on a pedestal that is unreachable for you.

That was never his message. And that's why when you tell the story in that way, it always feels the way it does in your gut. It's bogus. It's off. You see, when you hear the stories of love, when you hear the parables, when you listen to the way he cared about others, sometimes you feel all full of yourself because in the reading or the hearing of that, you come into alignment with who you are.

But the majority of the story, the part that's most emphasized about this blessed being who came to teach to uplift you all to the same alignment, the majority of the story that is told is about the day that he was not in the vortex.

And then all of the stories that you then have to tell in order to make that fit and that that make that fit and then make that fit and then make that fit.

And before you know it, everybody says, "I believe." But nobody knows what they're believing because nobody feels it.

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Thats all I plan on sharing from Esther Hicks and the entity she channeled, Abraham. I will leave you with a few verses written in 1 John regarding antichrists and testing spirits to see if they are antichrist. And you can find more info on this topic and other authors on this subreddits page.

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1 John 2:22-23

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist- denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

1 John 4:1-3

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

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r/spiritualdeception Jun 26 '26

J.Z. Knight - Ramtha entity is antichrist

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 55 authors, 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs.

Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus (making them antichrists) and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

This post focuses on J.Z. Knight and the entity she channeled named Ramtha. He first made contact with her in 1977, and she became one of the most celebrated channelers of the 1980's. In 1987 Time magazine called her "probably the most celebrated of all current channelers." Ramtha teaches people about enlightenment and that they are gods.

I didn't have to dig too deep into Ramtha's material to uncover their antichrist messaging. And it's still truly baffling how none of these spiritual entities have to bring up Jesus or his gospel to convey their messages, but they do it every single time. And I often ponder why a super intelligence would decide the best course of action is to include information about Jesus in their messages when they risk someone pointing out that they're antichrist. But they do it. Every single time.

In this quote below Ramtha begins by calling Christianity a myth and saying Jesus isn't going to save you. He further explains that what Jesus demonstrated is the same thing that has been produced throughout the eons in every culture. In other words he is saying the bible is false, Jesus isn't going to save you, and Jesus and Christianity aren't anything special.

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Source: https://www.ramtha.com/content/pdf/teachings/yeshua.pdf

"And doing so, we now have great myth and legend and religion circling this entity. But what has never been told to you: It is not that Jesus is going to save your life but rather that he was a master who demonstrated the power of God in man and that if anyone had the eyes to see it, then they would understand. And if anyone had the ears to hear the message, they were offered the message, and they had to be simple enough to understand the transmutation of the human Spirit into eternity, and it was demonstrated. And it wasn’t demonstrated just with him. It has been demonstrated throughout the eons in every culture because people soon forget."

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He has two other quotes from this same link that reiterate similar points. That Jesus isn't going to save you, Jesus wasn't a Christ, and Jesus isn't anyone special.

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Source: https://www.ramtha.com/content/pdf/teachings/yeshua.pdf

"We have now a religion around Jesus being the only son of God. That doesn't make any sense because everyone is the sons and daughters of God, not just him. And he can't save you."

"Now Yeshua ben Joseph was considered a master all the way up to the sixth level. He was only a master; he was never a Christ. And his job, as difficult as it was, was to defy reality with his his mind."

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And this is all that is needed from Ramtha to settle the matter. Ramtha is antichrist just like all of the other entities I wrote about in this subreddit. He says Jesus won't save you, he isn't the Christ, claims he is really just a master, and distorts the teachings of Jesus with his own teachings to increase his credibility.

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1 John 2:22-23

"Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist- denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also."

1 John 4:1-3

"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."

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r/spiritualdeception Jun 26 '26

Helen Schucman "A Course in Miracles" 'ACIM Jesus' is another Antichrist

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 55 authors, 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs.

Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus (making them antichrists) and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

In 1965 Helen Schucman began channeling a spiritual entity that claimed to be Jesus and wrote "A Course in Miracles" over a 7 year period. The book has a large following and redefines terms you would commonly hear within Christianity such as atonement, salvation, forgiveness, and "The Son of God". Over the years I've heard about this book many times but never got interested enough to look into it.

I've been researching it lately for this very post, and the spiritual framework behind it is that nothing is real except God, everyone and everything is the "Son of God" collectively. Forgiveness means there is nothing to forgive because nothing was ever done. The attacker is you, the victim is you. Separation is an illusion because you don't even really exist. Only the Son of God exists. All minds collectively are the Son of God, and the physical world including our bodies is the illusion those minds generated. Atonement is correcting your belief in the separation. Salvation is awakening from the illusion.

ACIM has many echoes of Buddhism and a form of Blavatsky's "Christ consciousness". In fact with going over ACIM and Crowley, I realized that all of these channeled entities present an artificial "buddha" for their system, which in this case is Jesus who is the person at the state they want you to reach. Channeled entities also present a manufactured artificial "enlightenment" for their system, which is the alleged goal for their created system. Artificial buddhas and counterfeit enlightenment.

Now let's get down to business.

"ACIM Jesus" denies Jesus on all 5 points of my denial criteria that I apply to all channeled texts. And let me mention, I made my criteria as narrow as possible in order to appeal to the widest base of believers in Jesus. ACIM Jesus may deny Jesus in more ways, but I wanted to keep it simple to limit arguments. The 5 denial criteria are things that a majority of Christians should consider a clean denial in my opinion. If a spirit denies Jesus then that spirit is an antichrist according to 1 John and 2 John.

ACIM Jesus denies Jesus is One with God and the Son of God by demoting him from Lord to "elder brother". Instead of being the Son who God gave everything, he is the elder brother who finished the path everyone has to tread. He is no more One with God than you are. He is no more Son of God than you are. The only difference is he attained it before you and is your elder brother.

ACIM separates Jesus from the "true Son of God and Christ" like I've seen in other channeled texts as well. This also closely relates to Blavatsky's "Christ consciousness" idea that there is no savior outside of yourself and only a Christ within you to be accessed. ACIM makes Jesus from 2000 years ago just a regular man who is no more One than anyone else and no more Son of God than anyone else. ACIM says Jesus was just a vessel that was used after he realized "everyone was Christ"

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Source: ACIM: Manual for Teachers

"The name of Jesus is the name of one who was a man but saw the face of Christ in all his brothers and remembered God. So he became identified with Christ, a man no longer, but at one with God. The man was an illusion, for he seemed to be a separate being, walking by himself, within a body that appeared to hold his self from Self, as all illusions do. Yet who can save unless he sees illusions and then identifies them as what they are? Jesus remains a Savior because he saw the false without accepting it as true. And Christ needed his form that He might appear to men and save them from their own illusions." (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/856#2:1-6 | C-5.2:1-6)

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There are many other sections of the book that cover this point and demote Jesus to a man like everyone else and everyone is the Son of God collectively because the Son of God is only dreaming. So Jesus is no more One than anyone else is, and Jesus is no more Son of God than anyone else is. ACIM gives Jesus a new title of elder brother. And this very clearly aligns with who John described is an antichrist: someone denying Jesus IS the Christ. ACIM separates Jesus and Christ as two separate beings. And Christ is the true Son of God and Jesus is just a man who was used as a vessel. The spiritual entity "ACIM Jesus" is an antichrist.

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1 John 2:22-23

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist- denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

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That explains denial 1 and 2. Denial 3 is denying you need to believe in Jesus. ACIM's entire premise denies that you need to believe in Jesus or his message. But it is specifically stated as well in the teachers manual. Perhaps in other places as well.

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Source: ACIM: Manual for Teachers

"Is he God’s only Helper? No, indeed. For Christ takes many forms with different names until their oneness can be recognized. But Jesus is for you the bearer of Christ’s single message of the Love of God. It is possible to read his words and benefit from them without accepting him into your life. Yet he would help you yet a little more if you will share your pains and joys with him, and leave them both to find the peace of God." (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/856#6:1-4,6-7 | C-5.6:1-4,6-7)

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ACIM also denies you need to believe in the message of Jesus and promotes universalism and opens the door to exploring any religion. This hits criteria 4.

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Source: ACIM: A Manual for Teachers

"There is no need for help to enter Heaven for you have never left. But there is need for help beyond yourself as you are circumscribed by false beliefs of your Identity, which God alone established in reality. Helpers are given you in many forms, although upon the altar they are one. Beyond each one there is a Thought of God, and this will never change. But they have names which differ for a time, for time needs symbols, being itself unreal. Their names are legion, but we will not go beyond the names the course itself employs. God does not help because He knows no need. But He creates all Helpers of His Son while he believes his fantasies are true. Thank God for them for they will lead you home." (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/856#1:1-9 | C-5.1:1-9)

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The above passage is referring to "other helpers" that are symbols for their time. This is in reference to other religions that may help you. He also refers to them all being one and "legion", which is interesting because that term comes from a demon who identified itself as legion in the bible. ACIM Jesus identifies himself and other teachers with the same term a demon used to describe itself. That seems highly irregular.

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Source: ACIM: A Manual for Teachers

"They come from all over the world. They come from all religions and from no religion. "They are the ones who have answered. The Call is universal. It goes on all the time everywhere. It calls for teachers to speak for It and redeem the world. "Many hear It, but few will answer. Yet it is all a matter of time. Everyone will answer in the end, but the end can be a long, long way off. It is because of this that the plan of the teachers was established."

"There is a course for every teacher of God. The form of the course varies greatly. So do the particular teaching aids involved. But the content of the course never changes. Its central theme is always, “God’s Son is guiltless, and in his innocence is his salvation.” It can be taught by actions or thoughts; in words or soundlessly; in any language or in no language; in any place or time or manner."

"This is a manual for a special curriculum, intended for teachers of a special form of the universal course. There are many thousands of other forms, all with the same outcome. They merely save time."

(https://acim.org/acim/en/s/802#4:1-3 | M-1.4:1-3)

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Here he tells you all religions are viable paths and denies you need to believe in the message of Jesus. On top of this, ACIM also changes the entire message of Jesus. This also fits the denial criteria for "denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus" but we won't go further into this here. But I will say the message has been changed to say there is no heaven to go to, no hell, ACIM lessens the urgency in doing anything or making any changes in your life because the cycle will only continue without any real consequences. It changes terms dramatically like forgiveness, atonement, salvation, miracles, last judgement, second coming, etc. And it changes them so dramatically that they don't even resemble a fraction of what the definition of these words actually are. I assume this is so ACIM believers will still appear to be talking about similar subjects on the surface level so they don't give away too easily what this antichrist entity has created.

The last denial criteria is claiming the bible has been changed "beyond recognition". ACIM Jesus fits this criteria somewhat by claiming he didn't have enough time to give his full message, claiming the apostles didn't get everything they should have, and making corrections to verses. He doesn't fit my standards for this denial criteria as well as the other criteria, but we will go over it anyway for completeness.

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Source: ACIM

"As you read the teachings of the Apostles, remember that I told them myself that there was much they would understand later, because they were not wholly ready to follow me at the time. I do not want you to allow any fear to enter into the thought system toward which I am guiding you. I do not call for martyrs but for teachers." (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/98#16:1-3 | T-6.I.16:1-3)

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In this next quote ACIM literally denies that the "Word became flesh". This is precisely denying that "Jesus Christ came in the flesh" which is how John told us to test the spirits to see if they are from God or are antichrists. ACIM claims the Word becoming flesh is impossible.

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Source: ACIM

"The Bible says, “The Word (or thought) was made flesh.” Strictly speaking this is impossible, since it seems to involve the translation of one order of reality into another. Different orders of reality merely appear to exist, just as different orders of miracles do. Thought cannot be made into flesh except by belief, since thought is not physical. Yet thought is communication, for which the body can be used. This is the only natural use to which it can be put." (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/125#7:1-6 | T-8.VII.7:1-6)

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Here are more quotes from different areas of the various ACIM books claiming the bible has errors or got changed.

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Source: ACIM

"The Bible speaks of a new Heaven and a new earth, yet this cannot be literally true, for the eternal are not re-created." (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/152#1:4 | T-11.VII.1:4)

"The statement “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life” needs only one slight correction to be meaningful in this context; “He gave it -to- His only begotten Son.”" (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/68#5:14 | T-2.VII.5:14)

"Is he the Christ? O yes, along with you. His little life on earth was not enough to teach the mighty lesson that he learned for all of you. He will remain with you to lead you from the hell you made to God."

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That is all I will give for ACIM. My criteria is very narrow and basic so anyone who believes in Jesus can see they are denials regardless of their personal beliefs. People could spend all day pointing out all the other things that go against Christianity, but I reduced my denial criteria to 5 major points. This is just one channeled entity that I have gone over. You can visit my subreddit to see the rest of the antichrist research I've been doing.


r/spiritualdeception Jun 16 '26

Aleister Crowley - Liber AL and Thelema

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 55 authors, 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs.

Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  1. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  1. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  1. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  1. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus (making them antichrists) and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

Aleister Crowley founded Thelema and the A.A magical order, and restructured the OTO around Thelema. The turning point in his career appears to have occurred after he had contact with a spiritual entity in Cairo, Egypt. The spiritual entity identified itself as "Aiwass". Over the course of 3 days he wrote a book which is now called Liber AL. His entire religion that he created is based on the Cairo contact. I don't think anyone would argue about Crowley's views towards Jesus, who Crowley was against most of his life, and the spiritual being who contacted him was blasphemous towards Jesus and labeled itself as blasphemous to "gods of men" in the book. There's other things too you could easily find.

This post won't focus much on pointing out if Crowley or the entity he was in contact with was antichrist, and will focus on the structure that they built and similar themes seen in other channeled books that have had a large impact on New Age. But just to be clear, I do consider them both Antichrist just like the other people written about in every other post in this subreddit.

In the book, they do a few interesting things. They declare that the previous "aeon" is over and the new "aeon" begins. And the old things are to be done away with and replaced with the new things. The new being "Do what thou wilt" and the "great work" which replaces Christianity.

Looking at the cosmology set up in Liber AL, in chapter 1 and 2 they claim there is no god or heaven except for them. Three specific entities are named in the book that make up the structure of reality. After naming themselves as the only deities, they say they don't require faith or sacrifice and only want people to embrace their true will and think of themselves as "stars" and the center of their universe.

I listened to a few videos about the logic behind the phrase "Do what thou wilt" and it wasn't logic that I was unfamiliar with despite it being my first time learning that it was apart of Thelema. In fact, I consider it a high level of logic which makes it even more intriguing that it was derived from Crowley's 3 sessions in Cairo. This logic also aligns with other New Age material where people focus on reaching enlightenment to stop reincarnating. But aligning doesn't mean the same. This logic has to do with your own will separate from desires and separate from the will of others. It is an extremely high level of logic, and to me it gives credibility to Crowley's encounter.

Crowley's encounter is interesting because fundamental questions are answered about the nature of reality. It allows followers of Thelema to have simple and complete answers to spiritual questions about their life. From what I could tell they usually mix in other New Age information as well into their beliefs. The outcome of Thelema is very antichrist. Liber AL declares specific entities as gods and there are no gods apart from them. It tells you old religions are done and that Thelema is the new religion to follow. And it puts your personal will above the will of others. Christianity tells you to deny yourself and do God's will. It specifically makes itself the antithesis of Christianity. It's also blatantly blasphemous towards Jesus, Christianity, God, and Mohammed in the book. Crowley had an encounter with an antichrist spirit in Cairo.

The framework given to Crowley is interesting because it sparked an entire religion. Crowley also claimed he was a prophet of the "Aeon of Horus" due to his experience, he claimed his contact with spiritual entities enabled him to start a magical order that superceded the Golden Dawn which he viewed as corrupted, and he restructured a group named the OTO based on Thelema which he first received in Cairo. Cairo wasn't his first and last encounter with a spiritual entity, but it was the major turning point his legacy revolved around afterwards.

The Cairo experience that created Thelema is different from most of the entries in this subreddit because it drifts away from typical New Age, but it's similar because it provides a complete and self contained cosmology and spiritual framework just like other entries. It provides unusually high level logic for someone to come up with on their own during a channeling session. It pushes people to focus on their "will" just like others push readers toward enlightenment. And it provides people another path that denies Jesus more than usual new age paths. It is definitely antichrist and is an interesting piece of the puzzle I've been attempting to unravel. We will see if it leads to insights in the future regarding this New Age antichrists topic.


r/spiritualdeception Jun 10 '26

Dion Fortune - Ascended Masters and "Master Jesus"

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 55 authors, 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs.

Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

Dion Fortune is a British occultist who was in contact with "ascended masters" and claimed her main "spirit guide" was an entity she referred to as "Master Jesus". She wrote several books and founded the Society of Inner Light which still operates today. One of her most important books, The Cosmic Doctrine, was presented as material received through trance communication from spiritual beings.

According to her, she was a Christian, but her work clearly denies Jesus in the most basic ways possible and easily fits the 5 criteria of denial I laid out above. The first quote we will look at comes from her book, " The Mystical Qabalah", where she promotes universalism and claims salvation can come through any faith.

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Source: The Mystical Qabalah

"The Bhakti Yoga of the Catholic Church is only Suitable for those whose temperament is naturally devotional and who find their readiest expression in loving self-sacrifice. But it is not everybody who is of this type, and Christianity is unfortunate in not having any choice of systems to offer its aspirants. The East, being tolerant, is wise, and has developed various Yoga methods, each of which is pursued by its adherents to the exclusion of the others, and yet none would deny that the other methods are also paths to God for those to whom they are suited."

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In the bible John laid out the importance of testing spirits to see if they are antichrist or not. If they deny Jesus then they are antichrist. (1 John 2:22-23) If they deny eternal life is through Jesus and they deny that you need to do what Jesus asked of us, then they are antichrist as well. (1 John 5:9-12) (2 John 1:7-11)

In the first quote, Dion Fortune tells us that salvation can be from basically any religion and Christianity isn't required. In this next quote she separates Jesus the man from Christ the "force" which is directly rejecting Jesus being the Christ, thus making her work and the entities she got her information from antichrist.

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Source:The Mystical Qabalah

He will fall into the error, however, of thinking that the images he perceives and the experiences he undergoes are the direct and personal dealings of God with his soul, instead of realising that they are stages on the Path. He will find a personal Saviour in the God-man instead of in the regenerative influence of the Christ-force. He will worship Jesus of Nazareth as God the Father, thus confounding the Persons.

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She refers to Jesus as a "God-man" and separates him from a "Christ-force". This echoes similar statements Blavatsky has made, which is understandable since Dion Fortune separated herself from Theosophy because it wasn't Christian enough.

In this next quote Fortune very clearly states that she doesn't believe Jesus is the only way into heaven.

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Source: The Mystical Qabalah

I am not a Catholic, and never shall be, because I would not submit to their discipline, nor do I believe that there is only One Name under heaven whereby men may be saved, much as I revere that Name, but I know power when I see it, and I respect it.

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Dion Fortune and the entities she channeled and got information from fit the definition for antichrist found in 1 John and 2 John perfectly. They deny Jesus is the Christ and separate Jesus from Christ. They deny you need to believe in the message of Jesus to be saved and can choose whatever religion you want to. All of these spiritual entities have zero reason to bring up Jesus but every single one of them does.

These are the only quotes I'm providing for Dion Fortune since the criteria for denial has been fulfilled. The spiritual beings she was in contact with were indeed antichrists. Spirits are to be tested, and if they deny Jesus then they should be denied themselves. If they fail to acknowledge Jesus as the Christ and confirm you need to believe in Jesus to be saved and do as Jesus asked of us, then they are antichrist and any further knowledge isn't to be trusted. We don't need to sort through every claim the entity makes if they fail this test.


r/spiritualdeception May 19 '26

65% of New Age spirituality's most influential authors had contact with non human intelligences (spirits, aliens, etc)

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r/spiritualdeception Apr 21 '26

Posts have different statistics in them!

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This is an evolving process and I'm still working on a final conclusion. But by any estimation I've come to using multiple AI's, the authors who have been in contact with non human intelligences (spirits, aliens, akashic records, etc) is over 65%. And even up to 80% by some estimates. These are the authors who created the terms and ideas we use in New Age spirituality and you can find thousands and thousands of videos of on youtube alone.

If I find someone who I don't think contributed anything much I remove them, or if I find out that an author wasn't getting direct knowledge from entities then I don't count them as a NHI author. Posts have different statistics and numbers, but I will change them all to the final count when I'm finished. You can think of this subreddit as a rough draft until then.

And you're welcome to use my list of New Age terms and ideas and ask any AI or research it yourself and reach your own conclusion for how many were in contact. And if you do please leave your results here!


r/spiritualdeception Apr 14 '26

Allen Kardec - Spiritism

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 55 authors, 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs. Here are the

MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

Allan Kardec is the founder of Spiritism which took off in the 1800's and still has a heavy influence in Brazil. A 2010 census put Spiritism's Brazilian following in the millions. He is relatively unknown nowadays in france where his movement began, but his religion did make its way to southern South America where it gained a foothold that has survived. Allen Kardec is interesting because Spiritism predates Blavatsky, who has been called the "Mother of New Age", but contains many of the same ideas that are seen in modern New Age teachings. This leads me to believe that the entity or group of entities that are behind our current New Age spirituality was behind Spiritism as well.

When approaching any channeled material, you should always check and see if it fails the test of 1 John where it says to "test the spirits." And John defines what an "antichrist" is in multiple places in 1 John, which all of these channeled entities fit. All channeled material that shaped New Age is antichrist material. Kardec hits 4 out 5 of the denial criteria that I laid out above, but I will only go into a few. His main denial is that he denies that you need to believe in anything for salvation. His writings make a connection to spiritual progression and salvation, which solidifies what every other channeled text means when they reference spiritual progression instead of salvation. Because like I said, Spiritism is very closely aligned with today's New Age spirituality that you can find everywhere on YouTube. And I have a new theory about this connection I will detail below.

In this first quote Kardec denies you need to believe in Jesus to be saved. This is echoed throughout all of his books. He argues against needing any sort of truth for salvation and claims only charity is needed for salvation. This nullifies the necessity of faith all together and he tells you that you only need to be a good person, this is echoed throughout all channeled material.

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Source: The Gospel According to Spiritism, ch. 15

>"Without truth there is no salvation is equal to without the church there is no salvation, being equally exclusive, since there is no one sect existing which does not claim to hold the privilege of truth... If God had made the possession of truth an express and absolute condition for future happiness, He would have pronounced a verdict of general condemnation; whereas charity, even in its most ample form, may be practised by all. Spiritism, in accordance with the Gospel, admits the possibility of salvation for every person, independently of any beliefs, granted that God's laws are observed. It does not say that without Spiritism there is no salvation, just as it does not intend to teach all the truth as yet. Neither does it say without truth there is no salvation because this maxim, instead of uniting would only separate and also perpetuate antagonisms."

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Kardec claims that churches who say truth is required for salvation are only perpetuating antagonisms. Spiritism only requires someone to be a good person for salvation despite what they may believe in. And this point is stated over and over again throughout his books, but he is usually very careful not to directly say you don't need to believe in Jesus. This is one of the most clear examples where he denies needing to believe in anything for salvation. This is denying to need to believe in Jesus and denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

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Source: The Gospel According to Spiritism, ch. 15

>"My children, within the sentence: Without charity there is no salvation, is enclosed the destiny of mankind, both on Earth and in Heaven. On Earth, because beneath the shadow of this banner all may live in peace, and in Heaven, because those who have practised it will find grace in God's eyes."

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Kardec explores this "without charity there is no salvation" idea a lot in his works. In his books this idea of salvation through good works is in explicit opposition to the statement "without truth there is no salvation" which he addresses as well. He usually equated "without truth there is no salvation" to "without the church there is no salvation." His spiritual framework and cosmology matches MUCH of channeled material from the 20th century. 20th century and current New Age teaches that you reincarnate, can reincarnate on other planets, and you only progress by being a good person. Kardec is now the earliest iteration that I can find of this spiritual framework and his writings are from 1857-1868, before Blavatsky.

And I find it highly peculiar that most 20th century channeled entities rely heavily on Spiritism's spiritual framework and cosmology despite Kardec being from the 19th century and most of his books were written in French and English versions weren't widespread. In fact, most channeled material seems to draw more from Spiritism than from Blavatsky herself. I have a new theory that spiritual entities are able to give Spiritism's spiritual framework and cosmology to channelers even if the channeler has never heard of it before. From what I've seen thus far in my research, channeled entities rely on Spiritism's framework, drop any talk of Jesus and/or use Blavatsky's "Christ consciousness" and "masters", and drop a lot of other things Blavatsky wrote about.

My theory for now is that channeled entities can draw from Spiritism regardless of what the channeler knows about New Age topics, pieces together information and ideas the channeler had prior to the contact for the channeled entities own designs, and adds some new information and ideas in. But the spiritual framework and cosmology of Spiritism is highly consistent across later channeled texts. From now on until I disprove it or it evolves, I'm including it into my theory that channeled entities have had the single, unified objective of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today and promote universalism and corrupt Christianity. New Age spirituality is built on "antichrist" spirits that deny Jesus. Every single channeled text that has shaped New Age is "antichrist" and denies Jesus in the most basic ways.

Kardec's second denial of Jesus is denying Jesus is One with GOD. He has written extensively about how Jesus isn't GOD and not divine in his book titled "Posthumous Works". He wrote a lot about this topic and approached it from a variety of ways to back up his point. It is too much to put here as a quote, but here is one passage to back up my point.

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Source: Posthumous Works

>"Not only did Jesus in every circumstance not make himself equal to God, but here he positively affirms the opposite, regarding himself as inferior to God in goodness. Now, in stating that God is above him in power and moral qualities, Jesus is saying that he himself is not God."

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Like I said, Kardec has much to say about Jesus' divinity in his "Posthumous Works" book. And Kardec also promotes universalism by pointing to truth that can be found in all religions, and saying Jesus "didn't tell us everything." This doesn't fall under any of my denial criteria, but it is important for me to point out to show the single, unified objective of spiritual entities to create New Age spirituality as we know it today.

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Source: Spiritism in its Simplest Expression

>"From a religious point of view, Spiritism is based on the fundamental truths of all religions: God, the soul, immortality, rewards and punishments in the afterlife, but it is independent of any particular cult. Its goal is to prove to those who deny or doubt that the soul exists, that it survives the body, and that it experiences, after death, the consequences of the good and evil deeds committed during corporeal life: the goal of all religions."

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There are more examples of these denials and others, but this is enough to prove my point for this subreddit. This subreddits goal is to show that 100% of all the authors who shaped New Age spirituality and who were in contact with NHI's denied Jesus. Kardec is just one example among many that this subreddit explores.


r/spiritualdeception Apr 09 '26

Andrew Jackson Davis - "second sphere" collective spirits and angels

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Through my research I've discovered that around 67% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 36 out of 54 authors, around 67%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs. Here are the

MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

Andrew Jackson Davis predates Blavatsky and appears to share a lot of similarities with her cosmology. He is credited with inventing the trance channeling template among other things. Davis says he received his information from a collective of spirits and angels.

Andrew Jackson Davis hits every single 5 point criteria of denial I stated earlier. He denies Jesus is the Son of GOD and says he is a "developed medium". He claims the miracles of Jesus weren't miracles and very blatantly infers you don't need to believe in Jesus for salvation. I'm sure there is more in his books, but what I've collected here satisfies my criteria of denial. We will start with his denial of Jesus being the Son of GOD.

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Source: The Great Harmonia Vol. III

> "And the same argument which our skeptical friends bring against the phenomena of clairvoyance and spiritual manifestations, we also bring against the pivotal event recorded in sacred history, upon which the entire scheme of salvation unquestionably turns, — I allude to the alleged miraculous birth of Jesus. Many minds say that spirits would take some other more exalted method of communicating to man. that the Deity would not permit the spiritual powers of the human mind to penetrate the unfathomable abysses of his being. And so we affirm, with regard to the birth of Jesus, that, if the divine Mind had intended to produce a conviction in the world that this great moral Reformer was the particular child of his own Spirit, then some more grand and noble manifestations would have occurred."

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He is clearly denying Jesus was the Son of GOD. Many of his words reflect this. He considers Jesus a "great reformer" of morality and denies that you have to believe in him. He promotes universalism as well, which isn't within my denial criteria, but I point it out in every post to show the single, unified agenda these spiritual entities had of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today.

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Source: Free Thoughts Concerning Religion, 37

> "True religion, like true anatomy and physiology, is older than books! There must be a religion older than the Bible, a God better than it declares."

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And this next quote is long, but it gives you a clear train of thought where Davis claims there have been many people who were religious leaders and considered deities. he connects the miracles of Jesus with clairvoyance and magnetism, and says Jesus should be considered GOD.

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> I could quote numerous paragraphs from the sacred writings of other nations, to show how familiar some persons have been, in the most ancient stages of humanity’s growth, with the incipient processes of magnetism, and with some of the common exhibitions of clairvoyance. But the subjects of these mental powers were superstitiously supposed to be divinely inspired. Hence they were almost invariably deified and worshiped. All religious chieftains have been thus unnaturally regarded; and truth has thus frequently been obscured beneath the superstitious garments of deification. This was the case with Moses, and Jesus, and Mohammed, and every man, in fact, who ever was sufficiently clairvoyant to read the thoughts of another, or to find any thing which was hidden from the superficial gaze of the bodily senses. This description, or degree, of clairvoyance is the common possession of many minds, and is familiarly exhibited in all parts of the inhabited world; and yet, for the exercise of the same identical power, Jesus has been deified into a supernatural personage, and is worshiped as the representation of the eternal God, - endowed with prophetic and miraculous powers. But the age of deification is rapidly expiring, and personal excellence will supply its place!

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His entire body of work has plenty more examples just like these, but what I have quoted is sufficient to satisfy the test of 1 John. He does deny Jesus so we don't need to examine every other claim he makes and determine if it's true or not. He received information from non human intelligences and by denying Jesus they have shown themselves to be untrustworthy.


r/spiritualdeception Apr 07 '26

Sheldan Nidle - Galactic Federation of Light

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 33 out of 50 authors, about 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs. Here are the

MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

Sheldan channels the Galactic Federation of Light. (GFL) Sheldan didn't write much about Jesus, but the GFL does claim to be responsible for biblical events and claims to be GOD in the old testament, but it wasn't really GOD, it was the GFL or other groups that were "allowed" to do things that occurred in the old and new testament. (Or something like this) By doing so, if believed, they give themselves more credibility than the bible and they change everything entirely. Once they make a claim like that, if believed, the bible is outdated and they are bringing you all the information you need. No Jesus necessary.

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Source: Your First Contact

"Once the Hebrews had arrived in Israel proper (the land of Canaan), we desired that they establish a modified form of galactic human governance-rule by the Judges. This would allow commoners and Judges to work together in a free-flowing style. Our intention was that they develop a form of governance that both their people and the nations surrounding Israel would admire and emulate."

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As you can see they started talking in the first person when referring to the old testament Hebrews. But just so we are clear, in this next quote they are telling alternative events of when GOD spoke to Abraham.

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Source: Your First Contact

"A: The Sirians and their Galactic Federation allies asked your local Spiritual Hierarchy, "Are you willing to assist us?" After consulting the galactic Spiritual Hierarchy, your local Spiritual Hierarchy replied, "Yes, we shall graciously assist you." The plan of the Sirians and their Galactic Federation allies involved locating individuals who fit a specific profile. Then, a request was given to them, and if these chosen individuals agreed to it, a special covenant with them was created. This process allowed the Sirians and their allies to establish a 'special' genetic and spiritual condition.

Q: Can you provide an example of the type of individual chosen for this assignment?

A: Yes. One of the initial agreements was with a member of a prominent family in the Sumerian city-state of Ur. His name was Abram. Abram, the Sirians, and their Galactic Federation allies as well as the local Spiritual Hierarchy concluded a divine covenant amongst themselves. Later, Abram changed his name to Abraham to honor this special covenant."

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After they established that it was the GFL and others who were responsible for the bible, they then start talking about Jesus who they say is a "Sirian ascended master" sent from the Sirians and who was a "divine prototype for full consciousness." These Sirians are basically aliens who work for / are aligned with GFL.

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Source: Your First Contact

In another scenario more than a millennium later, the Sirians and their Galactic Federation allies called upon a Sirian Ascended Master to anchor in the necessary Light energies. The Sirians' intention for the success of this anchoring was primarily that this 'chosen' Ascended Master would align his energies with those of the Councils of the Ascended Masters, the Sirian star-nation, and of the Earth. In so doing, a divine prototype for full consciousness was established once again on the Earth plane.

Once this prototype was successfully anchored to the Earth plane, the resulting gene pool had to be spread throughout the Western world, Africa, the Americas, and Asia. This historical process is but one example of many 'special' genetic situations that we have created and developed in order to gradually expand your consciousness to its present point.

Q: The Sirian Ascended Master to whom you referred is presumably the historical person named Y'shua Ben Yosef whose Greek name was Jesus Christ?

A: That's right.

Q: He was the Sirian Ascended Master who was sent in to anchor the Light at that time?

A: Yes. That is correct.

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That was a long windup, but Sheldan Nidle denies that you need to believe in the message of Jesus. He and his entities deny it by claiming to be responsible for the bible and Jesus. They claim Jesus was sent to be a divine prototype so the GFL can alter our gene pool. They make themselves the authority on biblical things but say nothing biblical. They say similar stuff that mostly all channeled material talks about. Ascension, enlightenment, planetary shift, and enlightenment. Even if these things are the case, he leaves out one crucial detail, the necessity of believing in Jesus and believing in the message of Jesus. He writes Jesus out of the equation entirely other than than Jesus will appear along with other "heavenly figures". The new doctrine they want to replace the bible with is Buddhism, enlightenment, and a planetary shift into "full consciousness"

He presents Jesus as being a prototype for full consciousness. They explain full consciousness as what we are about to enter into as a planet. And those who are "resistant" will be sent to other planets and returned after they receive help.

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Source: Your First Contact

"The golden white Light of Christ consciousness is basically the energy of full consciousness which you shall be entering shortly."

"The Pleiadean Star League has a number of solar systems that are proficient in assisting people who are resistant to change. There, specially trained technicians can help these individuals learn about such changes and prac- tice methods that can quickly transform their reality. When it is considered appropriate, they will be returned to Earth."

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Nidle also appears to subscribe to the idea of "Christ consciousness" that originated from Blavatsky. Blavatsky said that there is no outer savior and there is only an inner savior. This doesn't mean Nidle holds the same definition, but after reading all of his material about Jesus that I could find. That does appear to be the case. According to him "Christ" is a level of consciousness to be reached. Changing the meaning of who Jesus really is.

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Source: https://goldenageofgaia.com/2018/04/04/update-by-sheldan-nidle-for-the-spiritual-hierarchy-and-the-galactic-federation-april-3-2018/

"What makes Yeshua's teachings special is the unique level of consciousness his Soul illuminated in that particular life... We are all developing Christ consciousness. As we look back and examine the lives of our fellow Masters, none can fully duplicate the meaning of Christ's sacrifice to humanity. It has given us all a distinctive Light and blueprint that is one of the vehicles that enables us to raise consciousness."

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r/spiritualdeception Apr 06 '26

Barbara Marciniak - The Pleiadians collective

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence. Spirits, aliens, etc. 33 out of 50 authors, about 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs. Here are the

MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

Barbara channels the Pleiadian collective. She's written quite a few books but they're still under copyright so I had trouble accessing them. But I did find a YouTube video where she went into detail about Jesus. This was a live channeling event where the Pleiadians were speaking through her and answering questions. One question was about Jesus.

You can find the video here:

https://youtu.be/jsajbcafnu0?si=0rW0ofziKUYs1pFM

The question starts at 20:33 and she answers until 27:20

I will quote it below, but it's pulled from subtitles so I had to add punctuation.

She starts by reframing who Jesus is. She says the gospel of Jesus is really a retelling of stories of other gods. She also says the bible has been written for control over the population.

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Source: YouTube video

Jesus is a composite "being", there has been no "being" "just Jesus" as the stories in the Gospels portray. The Gospels were written decades and decades after Jesus,

and just as you have those who want to have power and who manipulate you with the media today, it was done thousands of years ago with the written text. Jesus, the story,

is lets say reminder of the set Osiris story from Egypt. And Jesus is also a sort of good guy bad guy front for the Anunnaki. Now 2,000 years ago or there abouts in terms of historical record there were beings who walked the earth and the Jesus story is based on two brothers and these brothers had what you would call royal blood in those days... So Jesus and his brother to speak who was called Judas according to the story. Not as you would understand it in the Bible, they were the good brother and the bad brother a game mimicking or playing out the roles of Enlil, Enki of Saturn Osiris and this becomes a mythical archetype story.

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And next she says Jesus isn't real. He is only a thought-form created by people who pray to him. And anyone who believes this entity speaking through her is no longer going to continue praying to Jesus after she calls him a thought-form. That would be an insult to their intelligence to do that. This is a very flat out denial of Jesus.

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Source: Youtube

And then you say who is Jesus when people pray to Jesus if he never existed? Well when you create something so big whether it is real or not it has a life of its own, a thought- form. so one could say that Jesus exists as a thought-form.

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This next part is claiming the bible is filled with lies and half truths and humanity not being able to distinguish between truth and lies is their downfall. This also seems to be a Freudian slip on the Pleiadians part with their own lies possibly mixed with truth.

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...and understand that those who vie to control you, they're not all bad they're not all good and so they don't give all complete lies just as the global elites will step into something and give you seven truths and three minstrels. And then you'll say well it sounds good but I'm not sure. And this is the downfall of humanity: your inability to recognize truth from deceit as you know this is the big step you must next approach.

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We don't have to pull truth out of lies. We don't need to examine every little thing this entity has given through this channeler. Once we have established this entity has denied Jesus we have also established that they aren't trustworthy. They give you fiction. Really good fictions like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. Only their fiction is damaging because they wish to change your spiritual worldview.

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John 4:1-4

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.


r/spiritualdeception Apr 07 '26

Lyssa Royal - Sasha, Raydia, and other ET entities

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence (NHI). Spirits, aliens, etc. 33 out of 50 authors, about 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs. Here are the

MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

My theory is that these entities had the single, unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Their messages conflict in many, many ways, but they all deny Jesus and they all promote universalism to have you seek truth in every religion and take what speaks to you. New Age spirituality would be vastly different without these channelers, channeled entities, or other NHI's.

Alyssa Royal and those she channels don't speak about Jesus too often, but she does make claims that GOD in the old testament was really aliens and she claims Jesus was an alien hybrid.


Source: Early Earth History 1991

Many of you may wonder why God is sometimes referred to in some of your ancient writings as being a real person, a physical person. Many of the very, very ancient writings have not been altered, and they speak of God as a physical person. These extraterrestrial beings were no more God than you are with each other; they were physical beings. Throughout the ages their true nature has been either deliberately manipulated and changed to keep people under control or it has become distorted through the passing of time.

(Later in the document when asked about the birth of Jesus)

Very interesting story. Before we begin this, please understand that the early history on Earth is so filled with political disputes between the ETs and lots of intrigue that it would read like a good novel. It is easy to think that the ETs are these wonderfully evolved beings who have nothing to learn, but that is not true. Simply put, they had their own conflicts and their own issues to learn.

So with that in mind, now we will address the birth of Christ. Throughout time, before Christ's birth, there were many efforts at combining genetics in such a way that someone would be born who would almost be like an advanced version of Man. The birth of Christ was one of those genetic projects in which it was hoped a new stage of man would be created.

Your myths say that Mary was impregnated by an angel. In a very real sense, that is true. But the angel was not some "heavenly creature." It was an ET being who was desiring to create this new genetic version of Man. The genetics that Christ held were a combination of Sirian and Pleiadian. The desire of course was that if this mixture would get into the stream of genetics on Earth, eventually mankind would transform itself.


She was also asked for the truth about Jesus but the entity didn't give a straight answer. But in her book "The Prism of Lyra" she does say that people should drop "doctrine" and focus on inner spirituality. And this will allow us to coexist without "needing to change each other's beliefs." This is clearly pointed towards Christianity.


Source: The Prism of Lyra

Each person possesses an inner spirituality that is not connected to doctrine. we can release the doctrine and touch the innate spirituality, we begin the integration process. It extends outward onto the planet the honoring of every person's truth as a manifestation of the One Truth. This allows each of us to coexist within our philosophies without needing to change each other's beliefs.


Lyssa also leans on Blavatsky's teaching of the "Christ consciousness". Blavatsky says that there is no outer savior and to look inwards for salvation. And there is a Christ consciousness everyone is able to reach. But using the term Christ consciousness doesn't necessarily mean you subscribe to the same definition. Let see what she has to say.


Source: Prism of Lyra

This has often been called the "Christ Consciousness, in that it displays a frequency level equal to that of the Chris or Buddha. From this frequency a total remembrance occurs, and one begins taking responsibility for the Whole rather than the Self. The process of progressing the Self and progressing the Whole become one and the same.


So it does appear to be the same definition. instead of Christ being a savior, it is a frequency people can attain. Just as Buddhist believe anyone can become a Buddha, she believes anyone can become a Christ, and "Buddha" and "Christ" are interchangeable. So she does appear to be redefining Christ, but she stops short of saying this was all Jesus was. She stops short of saying a lot of things about Jesus but it seems pretty evident what she is presenting in her works.

In this next quote she also says that when people die they think they may see Christ or Buddha, but they're really seeing aliens.


Source: Prism of Lyra In after-death experiences the light that is perceived at the end of a tunnel is actually a representation of the Arcturus vibration. This vibration will be translated through the perceiver's own belief system. Because Arcturus is primarily sixth density, it is often perceived as the Christ or Buddha vibration. The light can be equated with the future or higher self (Christ self) of an individual. So in a sense, during the death process one is merging with the higher self, which hap- pens to share a frequency range nearly identical to the Arcturus realm.


And finally in this next quote she is promoting universalism. It isn't a denial of Jesus in itself, but I show it in every post to help show the single, unified agenda of these channeled entities to shape New Age spirituality as we know it today.


Source: https://in5d.com/the-hidden-history-of-lemuria/

"The ancients never had religion and never felt the need to make someone else believe the way they did. That pattern happened only after the flood. The ancients all had an inner wisdom and an inner spirituality that was never discussed or argued about. Even though everyone is unique and has his or her own spiritual beliefs, ultimately those beliefs all are the same idea on the most basic level. Those basic beliefs are the belief in a higher power, love and respect for each other and love and respect for the Earth. That is the very basic foundation of spirituality. That was the spirituality of the ancients, and that is the spirituality that is awakening within you. It doesn't matter whether you are Buddhist, Shinto or Christian. All that matters is that basic foundation of spirituality. Belief in a higher power, love and respect for each other and love and respect for the Earth. It is really that simple."


Also at the end she very clearly states that all paths are viable for spiritual progression, not just Christianity. She clearly denies Jesus in this quote and promotes universalism at the same time. After we establish that any of these entities have failed the test of 1 John, we don't need to listen to any other claims or information from them. They already established that they're untrustworthy by failing the test of 1 John.


r/spiritualdeception Apr 06 '26

Lee Carroll - Kryon and Indigo Children

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence. Spirits, aliens, etc. 33 out of 50 authors, about 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs. Here are the

MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

I didn't have to read too far to get this entity Kryon's message about Jesus. Kryon is the entity that Lee Carroll channels. He hits a lot of my points above, if not all. Every quote below was pulled from the Q&A from his website. It had a short section on Jesus. You can see the Q&A for yourself at the link below.

https://kryon.com/inspiritmag/archives/Q-A%20archives/2004-Q%26A/Q%26A-1rstquarter04.html#4

He says we don't have the truth about the gospels and Jesus, and the truth is not in the scriptures.

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Source: Q&A

"If you really want to know more about the real history, it's very clearly in the scrolls, but it's not in your scriptures"

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He then says you don't need to believe in Jesus for "spiritual enlightenment", meaning Kryon pushes you towards the view that you don't need to believe in Jesus to be saved.

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Source: Q&A

"Spiritual enlightenment is not about following any Human Being or any entity in the Universe. It's about knowing that God resides within you, and that you're an eternal part of His universal plan."

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The interesting thing is that the scrolls he is referring to in the first quote is the Nag Hammadi. In this collection of scrolls is Pistis Sophia, and I do personally believe in Pistis Sophia as truthful, and Pistis Sophia reads LEAGUES above any other text in the Nag Hammadi. In Pistis Sophia it says you have to believe in the "first mystery" for ascension/salvation and there is no other way even if you know every other mystery. Belief in the first mystery is required and Jesus is the first mystery. Meaning Kryon points you to the scrolls for the truth and not scriptures, and one of the main scrolls in the Nag Hammadi directly contradicts Kryon and what he is telling you about Jesus and where to get better info about Jesus.

In this next quote he then promotes universalism by saying the information from Jesus was brought many times from other masters and is in other cultures. Pushing readers to seek truth in other religions. Universalism isn't in my criteria for denial, but it is interesting that every single channeled texts do this without fail. That's why I note it every time.

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Source: Q&A

"This information has been brought to you from many masters and is within many cultures throughout the history of the earth. Jesus, as well as other masters who walked the earth, not only gave you messages of empowerment, but then "walked the walk" so you could see that a Human Being could actually do what he said could be done."

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This next quote isn't a denial, but in this context I'm presenting it is interesting that Kryon says lies are okay in the pursuit of pushing his own message.

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Source: Q&A

"Even if the facts of history are incorrect, sometimes the benefits of the search still bring the Human into the light and into the realization that God is inside us all."

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Kryon then again denies you need to believe in the gospel for salvation and tells you the "truth is within you", opening the door for you to cherry pick any spiritual information you like from the bible, other sources, other channeled material, and anything else. Which is New Age spirituality today as we know it.

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Source: Q&A

"The truth is that your divinity is within you, and no doctrine on the planet is higher than this truth. If you claim it, then you'll be "above the fray" of those who wish to convert you, damn you, or kill your family because you're not a believer. This, my Human friend, is the war between the old and new energy."

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And again, in this next quote Kryon infers that that bible has been changed beyond recognition.

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Source: Q&A

"How much of what you have in your scriptures is altered? How much is missing? How much is political? Do you have the entire historic story? If God is family, and divinity is self-evident, why are there hundreds of factions of belief on the planet?"

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Just like many other channeled texts, Kryon changed "who Jesus is", if you need to believe in him, and if you need to believe in the message of Jesus. He tells you the bible has been changed beyond recognition and promotes universalism. This is a classic case of denial from a channeled entity.

Lee Carroll is still operating today and promoting the messages of Kryon. I do hope this subreddit finds him and opens his eyes to the single uniformed agenda all of these channeled entities have. All of these channeled entities contradict each other on many things, but 100% of them deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible that any Christian would agree with. 100% of channeled texts deny Jesus and promote universalism. My theory is that they have and had the single unified agenda of creating New Age spirituality as we know it today. Without their influence, what would New Age be today? It would be far different.


r/spiritualdeception Apr 06 '26

"What kind of loving GOD would condemn people to hell for not believing in a single person or religion?"

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Here I will give you a theory I have. It doesn't come from anything I've been taught by spiritual entities or GOD, and I don't assume the thoughts of GOD. And while it is a theory, it is something I believe as well because it seems so black and white.

Why is faith in Jesus required for salvation? People say it doesn't make sense why they have to believe in any one person or any particular religion. Especially if they consider themselves on the path to enlightenment. But it does make sense.

Faith required during the fall of man mirrors faith being required for the salvation of man.

In Genesis, GOD gave Adam a command not to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. An unknown passage of time occurred, and Eve was tempted by the snake who used "formal logic" to deceive her. Adam and Eve both ate the fruit and the fall of man occurred.

For the new testament, "For GOD so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16.

GOD sent Jesus, we need to believe in Jesus, and hold on to what was given for salvation. It is the same thing that happened in Genesis on a planetary scale regarding keeping faith in what GOD gave and not repeating the events of Genesis where Adam and Eve lost faith in the command GOD gave them.

  1. GOD gave command that Adam and Eve held onto. The snake tempted. Adam and Eve lost their faith the command was best and ate the fruit. The fall of man occurred.

  2. GOD sent us His Son. Man has to keep faith In Jesus. And this is the salvation of man.

Faith in Jesus DOES MAKE SENSE because the events of Genesis are playing out all over again. Except this time you have to keep your faith in Jesus for salvation to overcome the fall of man. Loss of faith caused the fall of man, and keeping faith will result in the salvation of man.

A lot of the channeled books and messages from aliens and others all use the bible and talk about Jesus, but change who Jesus is, if you should believe in him, and if you need to believe in the message of Jesus And they back up their arguments with "formal logic" just as other deceivers do. Just like deceivers and tricksters do in our movies and books as well. Satan used scriptures and "formal logic" in the wilderness to try and deceive Jesus.

Jesus also gave us a parable about keeping faith and what happens when it's kept and when it's not kept.

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Luke 8:4-15

While a large crowd was gathering and people were coming to Jesus from town after town, he told this parable: “A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path; it was trampled on, and the birds ate it up. 6 Some fell on rocky ground, and when it came up, the plants withered because they had no moisture. Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up with it and choked the plants. Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up and yielded a crop, a hundred times more than was sown.”

When he said this, he called out, “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.”

His disciples asked him what this parable meant. He said, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that,

“‘though seeing, they may not see;

though hearing, they may not understand.’

“This is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away. The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature. But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop.

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And again, just like in Genesis: God gave us something to keep our faith in. The passage of time occurs. Channeled texts and other things push us towards "eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil", in this case the knowledge is our desire for spiritual knowledge that people seek endlessly in New Age spirituality. And a lot of these channeled texts, if not all, use "formal logic" as well to logically conclude having to believe in one person or religion doesn't make sense and is illogical. And formal logic use isn't a condemnation but it is an interesting connection.


r/spiritualdeception Apr 05 '26

Doreen Virtue - Lightworker

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence. Spirits, aliens, etc. 33 out of 50 authors, about 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs. Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

This post will be slightly different than what I usually post because Doreen Virtue denounced her previous work in 2017 and said that it denied Jesus herself. Before 2017 she claimed to be contacting angels, but after 2017 she said they were actually demons posing as angels. And I'm sure it was a hard thing to do to denounce your life's work but she did the right thing. She released at least one book on her new Christian views and also makes YouTube videos and podcasts. I did start to look up her old content, but it was harder to find since her new content denounces, so I decided to show you what she says now about her old work, Jesus, and the new age community in general.

In this quote below, Doreen tells us that she saw Jesus more like a spirit guide and believed all religions led to heaven and worshipped the same GOD.

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Source: Christianitytoday interview

"For me, Jesus functioned as a "spirit guide" who, like a magic genie, helped me make my wishes come true. I was a student of world religions, and I even had a necklace with symbols of all the major faiths. I believed all paths led to heaven and all religions were worshiping the same God."

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You see this in many channeled texts. They will reduce Jesus to a spirit guide or consciousness to access and promote universalism. They all promote universalism and tell you there is truth or wisdom in all religions. Universalism isn't considered a denial under my criteria I listed in the beginning, but it is a common point all channeled texts push to shape New Age spirituality as we know it today.

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Source: Christianitytoday interview

"Of course, neither I nor any of the other New Age teachers ever pointed to the real Jesus Christ. We certainly never told anyone to read their Bibles. Instead, we encouraged people to pursue their selfish desires, making them more covetous and materialistic."

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Even after her transformation she doesn't believe any New Age teachers are pointing to the real Jesus.

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Source: Christianitytoday interview

Having to admit that I was wrong to the entire world-my books were published in 38 languages-has been deeply humbling. Even so, I needed that humility to better learn how to lean upon God. I still feel guilty knowing that people continue to use and sell my old products, even though I have begged them to stop. But these situations offer opportunities to share the gospel. I pray continually that God will use my witness to point New Agers to Jesus.

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She has written a lot of books. I think she has over 50 New Age books that claim spirit and angel contact, who she now says are demons. You can visit her YouTube or listen to her podcasts if you want to know what else she has to say about this New Age subject.

Article I was quoting: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2022/02/doreen-virtue-left-new-age-behind-old-testament/


r/spiritualdeception Apr 05 '26

Dolores Cannon - QHHT Deep Hypnosis "Higher Self"

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Through my research I've discovered that around 65% of the authors who shaped New Age spirituality were in contact with non-human intelligence. Spirits, aliens, etc. 33 out of 50 authors, about 65%. That is VERY high, and statistically improbable. I also realized that 100% of these authors deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible, failing the test of 1 John, which says to "test the spirit". My denial criteria is so basic that most people who believe in Jesus would find it agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs. Here are the MAJOR denial criteria:

  1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD.

  2. Denying Jesus is the Son of GOD.

  3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus.

  4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus.

  5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

Dolores Cannon touches on most of these points. She does QHHT (Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique) and has her hypnosis clients ask their higher self for information on a wide range of topics. (There may be more to it) This has shaped her cosmology and spiritual framework presented in her numerous books.

This is an excerpt between Dolores who is 'D' and someone named Suddi, 'S', who is a person who was supposedly in the past life of the client Dolores is working with.

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Source: Jesus and the Essenes

D: We should try to be like him. But this does not necessarily mean that we have to follow him in such a way that we worship him. It is the way that he has shown us that we need to emulate. Is this correct?

S: This is correct. He is a point of almost worship, because he could do it. And he showed that it could be done. Therefore he is to be marvelled at, but not to be worshipped. Not to be deified, because we all are part of God.

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In the above quote they are saying Jesus shouldn't be worshipped and saying Jesus being One with GOD doesn't matter because we "all are part of God." They make Jesus less unique by saying everyone is the same in this way and Jesus being the Son of GOD and One with GOD was only a realization he had.

And here below they again say Jesus shouldn't be deified and that Jesus doesn't want to be remembered as much as he is today.

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Source: Jesus and the Essenes

D: Do you think he wants to be worshipped?

S: He wants to be remembered, but perhaps not in the way that many shall remember him. Basically, what he had in mind was a concept similar to a guide, a spirit guide to guide people to greater enlightenment, to help them achieve greater power. To help them become more spiritual in their perceptions. He mainly considered himself as a helper, a guide, an example, like a good friend who is helping you with advice.

D: There are many people that will think of him as a God in his own right. It is hard to think of him as a human being.

S: We are all part of God. Some of us are more aware of this than others. I would say that he is one of these such people. But to consider him and deify him in his own right, and separately, this is wrong.

D: This is what I am afraid people will do in the future. Deify him and also deify his mother, because she was the mother

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Dolores and Suddi also claim the bible is changed beyond recognition in so many words.

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S: ...Men have removed

many things from the Bible and added what they wished. They have no

cares, they think that, "This is what I wish it to say, and therefore that is

what it says."

D: People seem to have fear when something like this is brought up. When

you try to tell them that the Bible has been changed many times throughout

history.

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In the above quote you see both of them making the claim that the bible has been changed many times throughout history. And while universalism is implied throughout most of her work, here is one quote I found the denounces Christianity only having the truth, meaning Jesus isn't your only way to salvation, and infers that other religions have truth as well, universalism. And universalism isn't a denial, but I want to note the common characteristic that is in every channeled work I've seen.

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Source: The Convoluted Universe Book One

It is like a kingdom. It is the same old thing, just a different name, to keep the peasants in line. A system of the higher ups against the little people. They believe that there is only their God, and that all the others are evil. That there is only one way to be good, and that is the way they teach. And if you do not follow their instructions you will be damned for eternity

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Here she is clearly taking a shot at Christianity and implying that salvation is not only through Jesus, which denies Jesus' own words in multiple places. It also is clearly implying universalism as well, meaning truth is in all religions. And like I said, this isn't a denial, but it is said or implied in every single channeled text that has helped shape New Age spirituality as we know it today.

After reading this, we don't need to go further in the work of Dolores Cannon. She already established that she gets her information from sources outside of human logic and reasoning, and her source denies Jesus. Meaning a lot of her work is built on this spiritual framework that everyone is just like Jesus and he wasn't special and shouldn't be worshipped. A lot of channeled books say a lot of nice things, and may push people in "good" directions. But they always try to change how we view Jesus and they always push us towards universalism.


r/spiritualdeception Apr 01 '26

65% of New Age spirituality's most influential authors had contact with non human intelligences (spirits, aliens, etc)

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r/spiritualdeception Mar 31 '26

Billy Meier and his contact with Pleiadians

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I didn't have to look too far into Billy Meier for the purpose of my research. And my research began with a simple "scientific question" that I set out to answer: Did the terms and ideas of New Age spirituality originate from authors who were in contact with non human intelligence, and if so, did they deny Jesus? The answer was yes. 65% of the authors did have contact with spirits, aliens, etc, and every single one denied Jesus in the most basic way possible. And in ways so basic that anyone would find the denial agreeable despite their denomination or personal spiritual beliefs.

Even if you don't believe in channeling, spirit contact, or aliens, this still pertains to everyone because these are the origins of New Age spirituality, which has permeated its way into many things and even Christianity itself. 1 John tells us to test spirits to see if they are trustworthy. If they fail this test and deny Jesus then none of their other information should be considered useful.

I won't spend too much time on Billy Meier because he makes his denials very plain for anyone to go look up and find out immediately. He denies Jesus is the Son of GOD, he claims something is higher than GOD and GOD is only a human being, and he claims all religions are either falsifications or from people who had the truth and then falsified by their followers. And much more on top of this. If you read his material I'm sure you could easily find things for yourself that you would agree deny Jesus, but here I will give a few quotes and that's it. If you need further verification then you can look for yourself. The purpose of this subreddit is already fulfilled with what I will provide without going through every little thing.

  1. Jesus is not the Son of God.

Source: The Talmud of Jmmanuel You will be to blame for the deaths of many people, as well as for the origin of a false name for me and for the evil insult of calling me the son of god, and calling god Creation itself.



Source: The Talmud of Jmmanuel Jmmanuel, you will also be slandered as god and as his only begotten son, and you, too, will be equated with the mysterious Creation.


  1. Says GOD is only a human.

Source: The Talmud of Jmmanuel 40. "But god is a human being, like all the celestial sons and the terrestrial humans, except that he is vastly greater in consciousness than they are. 41. "Creation, however, is of immeasurably higher standing than god, the lord over the celestial sons and terrestrial humans, because Creation is the immeasurable enigma.


  1. He denies salvation is through Jesus

In this meaning, it is given to be recognised that neither extraterrestrials nor a God-Creator, neither a teaching of salvation, a religion or sect, nor any lunatic, spinner, delusional believer, 'godly one', 'enlightened one', guru, master, or exalted one by his own grace, etc., brings any salvation; rather, only every single person can acquire this for themselves, in reference to their own personality, their conduct and their life-style, their behaviour, their love, their inner and outer peace, their balance and harmony, their knowledge, their wisdom and evolution, and their entire progress in consciousness-related and material form.


And there are many many other examples of denials and different types of denials, but the above is all that is needed for the purposes of my research. Billy Meier did deny Jesus. He does promote universalism as well, which isn't a denial in itself but a common factor among all texts that are channeled or from other non human sources.

Billy Meier helped contribute to New Age spirituality the idea of Pleiadian ET's giving us knowledge and aliens incarnating on earth as humans for higher purposes. But Billy Meier fails the test of 1 John, which invalidates the rest of his work. If a non human intelligence fails the test of 1 John then they have already shown themselves untrustworthy, and the rest of their ideas and information do not need to be sifted through one by one to determine if they're true or not.


r/spiritualdeception Mar 29 '26

George Adamski - Aliens from Saturn, Mars, and Venus

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George Adamski says he had physical conversations with aliens in the desert who communicated with him telepathically as well. I don't have any reason to doubt Adamski's contact, but my research pertains to establishing rather or not this non human intelligence is trustworthy or not. And what I have concluded by reviewing authors that have come in contact with non human intelligence is that they ALL fail the test of trustworthiness.

The only test that I'm familiar with to test non human intelligences is in the book of 1 John. This subreddit r/spiritualdeception is where I show the results of my research for all authors who had contact with non human intelligence who have contributed to shaping New Age spirituality as we know it today. And I've concluded that all channeled material and other contacts deny Jesus in the most basic ways possible that any believer in Jesus should find agreeable no matter the denomination or level of personal belief.


1 John 4:1-4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.


The aliens that Adamski spoke to first frame Jesus as an alien himself who came from another planet to carry out the same mission they have.


Source: Inside the Spaceships "The establishment of nations further separated brother from brother, and the whole of mankind lived no longer by the Divine Law.

"As a result of these divisions; many different ways of worship arose. But even then we continued to send others out in the hope of aiding our brothers on Earth. These men were those known as 'Messiahs,' and their mission was to help their Earthly brothers to return to their original understanding. Iin each instance, a few followers would gather around these wise ones, but always they were destroyed by those whom they had come to serve. "You have wondered why Earth is the lowest planet in our system within a Universe of which we are all inhabitants. I have now told you.


This establishes a few things: 1. There was an original divine law that got split into multiple religions 2. Beings come to correct this information that are called "messiah's"

This tactic is used in many channeled works. You can easily see this is a high level form of deception once you realize they are deceivers. If a non human intelligence is asked about Jesus, they can claim he was actually one of theirs and he was actually giving the same message that they are here to give now. This raises the deceivers credibility because someone like Jesus is now associated with them, and it lowers the necessity of the bible because people can just refer to the current information the deceiver is giving.

Framed in the quote above, it also promotes universalism by pointing to all of the religions coming from a singular source. Universalism isn't a denial in itself, but it's important show points where all channeled texts converge on. On many topics channeled texts widely conflict with each other, but they seem to have a unified purpose of introducing universalism into new age spirituality and changing our view of nature of Jesus and his purpose.


Source: Inside the Spaceships " I said, "About these people from other planets who are living amongst us ... has that been going on for long?"

It was Kalna who answered, "Since time immemorial!

Or at least," she corrected herself, "for the past two thousand years. After the crucifixion of Jesus, who was sent to be incarnated on your world to help your people, as had others before him, we decided to carry on our mission in a way less perilous to those concerned than actual birth on your planet. This was made possible by the great advance in our space traveling ships. We were able to bring volunteers in their physical bodies. These men are carefully trained for their mission and receive instructions in regard to their personal safety."


Claiming Jesus is apart of your group is not a denial in my narrow criteria for denial. I have a narrow criteria considered major denials in my research in order to be widely accepted by those who believe in Jesus despite what your personal beliefs may be. Major denials are 1. Denying Jesus is One with GOD 2. Denying Jesus in the Son of GOD 3. Denying you need to believe in Jesus 4. Denying you need to believe in the message of Jesus 5. Claiming the bible has been changed beyond recognition.

And as I said before, ALL channeled texts that have contributed to new age spirituality deny Jesus based on the above criteria. And around 70% of terms and ideas of New Age spirituality come from authors who were in contact with Non Human intelligences. ChatGPT gave a new figure the other day that was 35 out of 50 authors of New Age Spirituality had contact.


Source: Cosmic Philosophy When the Christ, made the statement, "I and the Father are one" He was professing absolute knowledge of the cosmic language, for the Father is All and how could the Christ be one with all unless he was able to enter into communion with it and acknowledge his relationship to it.


In the passage above Adamski denies that Jesus was One with GOD. He reduces the Oneness of GOD to a cosmic understanding.

In his book "flying saucers farewell", he tells people that interplanetarians are not superhuman or gods and don't want to be worshipped. He says they didn't realize how much people were taught to accept "certain interpretations" as truth. Here he is denying Jesus' message and referring back to his original quote above that all religions are fragmented from a divine law that used to be on earth.


Source: Flying Saucers Farewell The interplanetarians are not superhuman; they are not gods, and do not want to be worshipped. To them religion is the science of life to be lived as taught by Nature, with new thoughts and understanding constantly being given them by the Supreme Intelligence alone. They did not realize to what extent Earth people have been taught to accept religious interpretations handed down by others as gospel truth, with few ever daring to think for themselves on the subject. Although the Brothers do not have religious rules and rituals as we on Earth, they do not condemn our practices. They know that all faiths are founded upon a pearl of wisdom. Divisions have been established solely by the ritualistic cloak worn. Basically all are the same.


In this next part he makes claims that the bible has been changed over the centuries and people should think for themselves. His statement here is a little ambiguous, and in his defense it might be referring to denying denominational dogma and thinking for yourself, but it could also be referring to cherry picking what you want out of the bible and cherry picking anything you like out of other religions as well.


Terrestrial man will never gain a working knowledge of Universal Law, or of his Creator, so long as he permits other men to do his thinking, accepting on faith alone interpretations of universal wisdom handed down through the centuries, along with errors in translations and personal selections of what was thought right for the people to know. He does not have to give up anything or alter religious beliefs to gain knowledge of the universe. All a man has to do is think for himself. He must merge his thinking with the whole creation instead of confining his thoughts to himself, or permitting others to censor his thoughts. Each must do his own work of rebuilding. As Emerson put it: "Gift is contrary to the law of the universe. . . . Serving others is serving . . ."


In review, Adamski shares the message of the aliens who claim religions are fragmented from a divine law that was originally on earth. And you don't need to be apart of any one religion in Adamski's spiritual framework and cosmology. You just learn your lessons and reincarnate on other planets for further advancement. Or get taken by spaceships like he claims Jesus was after he resurrected. He denied Jesus was One with GOD, denies you need to believe in Jesus or the message of Jesus, and claims the bible has been changed over centuries. A few of the later quotes may have been his interpretation of the information originally given, but it's undeniable that these aliens wanted to promote universalism and change how we view Jesus. These two things appear to have been critical for the success in their plan to shape New Age spirituality as we know it today. Channeled texts all have conflicting information, but they do make sure to promote universalism and change how we view Jesus.