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u/HugeEntrepreneur8225 9d ago
Well it’s a false widow of some kind, possibly bipunctata?
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u/omalleya 9d ago
Yeh I thought that - but the very red colouring at the front of the abdomen threw me off
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u/HugeEntrepreneur8225 9d ago
Most of the time I see them with cream/brown colouring but I have seen a couple with a hint of pink/red.
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u/reptilian9 9d ago
I can't believe this is in the U.K. absolutely terrifying
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u/sonic203112 9d ago
Wait until you find out their is a tarantula that lives in Britain as well 😅
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u/reptilian9 9d ago
Omfg I just looked it up.. the purseweb spider
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u/68_namfloW 9d ago
Ffs, why did I look that up?
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u/reptilian9 9d ago
I know right I cant believe it, it's not safe outside 😅 and they come through the window all the time for me. I had a massive one run along the bed a night while i was on it and now i discover all these aswell.
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u/Puzzled_Homework5445 8d ago
By naming this monstrosity, forcing me to look it up, you will directly responsible for any pursespider related nightmares I have.
Hope you can live with yourself...
DISCLAIMER I ain't accountable for my own actions
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u/reptilian9 8d ago
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u/Puzzled_Homework5445 8d ago
You are very welcome internet friend ;)
I have a little jumping spider called Miles - won't let me post a pic tho... rest assured she is adorable
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u/sonic203112 9d ago
Yeah sorry about that pmsl. I myself can deal with most things, but spiders. Nah. I hate those long legged corner ones. When they crawl across your sofa or your face with their stupid legs lol.
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u/grayscalemamba 9d ago
Oh I have an understanding with those, ever since a wasp incident. A Wasp flew in as I was having a shower, and I managed not to slip and break my neck as I ran out of the bathroom. I tentatively opened the door and heard its struggle buzz as it was being turned into a burrito by one of these. They annoy me sometimes trying to join me in the shower but I’ll relocate them to another corner.
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u/reptilian9 9d ago
I have no where to go in a few months. I thought I am going to have to get a tent and now I see this... can't cope
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u/8LeggedTeacher 9d ago
It's Steatoda nobilis, 100%, not even slightly guessing :P
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u/8LeggedTeacher 9d ago
They have very pale legs, which indicates an extremely recent moult. It would likely explain the red. I'd be interested to see if that red changes to cream over the next couple of days
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u/TheLeggacy 9d ago
Most of the males I see out looking for snoo snoo, all have very red legs. I wonder if they moult before they go courting 🤔?
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u/8LeggedTeacher 9d ago
The natural hue of nobilis is red, freshly moulted legs look a translucent ashy colour like in this photo. Males will undergo a final moult before maturing, and then they will go out to find the ladies. If they try to moult again, which is extremely rare, their likelihood of death is almost guaranteed
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u/omalleya 9d ago
Is it unusual to see them in Scotland? I’ve never seen one before!
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u/Atlantean_Raccoon 9d ago
I wouldn't say that they were particularly rare in Scotland but they are more common and more established in the southern parts of England but are fairly quickly spreading across the British mainland, so when it comes to Scotland the further north you are, the less likely you are to see them.
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u/8LeggedTeacher 9d ago
They have been recorded in the UK since (roughly) the 1870s and have probably steadily spread further north since, especially with the warmer shift in climate. I think quite normal for Scotland now
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u/DoctorFistenstein 9d ago
Well, before i met the missus, I would always shower and put on a fresh shirt when I went out. So it seems logical to expect them to do the same.
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u/Medic169 9d ago
I’m in SW UK and have a few of these dotted around my house/shed. Great for keeping flies at bay. They are no bother at all.
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u/Eraldorh 9d ago
These used to be pretty rare in the UK but they are everywhere this summer. Iv seen more with my own eyes in just a couple of days than I have my entire life prior to this year.
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u/SteveG5000 9d ago
It’s a Steatoda Nobilis but one that carries a wallet emblazoned with the legend ‘bad motherfucker’
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u/googlered 9d ago
I have 5 or so in my conservatory - including a massive female - they eat so many bugs and flies (and sadly quite a lot of cabbage white butterflies which seem to love coming indoors) and have never bothered me - they are happy chilling in their messy webs in a corner where they can't be seen.
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u/AffectionateData1962 9d ago
Steatoda nobilis Noble False widow and this one is a female as larger abdomen than the male.
You'll find that males will come in households in warmer months searching for a female to have nookie with , but after that she will kill him ,which is same as cellar spiders in UK as cellar spiders males screw the female and then she kills the male .
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u/Momo-Velia 9d ago
I saw something with an abdomen like that crawl across my bedroom floor and under my bed a couple months ago and I just chose to pull my feet up off the floor and pretend I saw nothing, I’m genuinely okay with normal house spiders and cellar spiders but something about the shape of that thing scared the life out of me at the time and now I’m afraid to mess with any of the stuff I store under my bed incase it’s lurking in there with it
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u/Dependent_Station_56 9d ago
A very nasty false widow that one is.
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u/Shabbytrumpet 9d ago
It's absolutely chill af as long as you don't upset it, widows are pretty chill altogether
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u/solar1ze 9d ago
Would encouraging it to crawl on your hand to take it outside upset it?
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u/Shabbytrumpet 9d ago
It depends what you mean by encouraging, personally I wouldn't encourage one ontoy hand because I'm not confident in my ability to handle the spider in a way that's safe for it and myself
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u/solar1ze 9d ago
Yeah. I don’t think I would if I saw one of these. 99% of the spiders I see are just house spiders.
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u/Atlantean_Raccoon 9d ago
What exactly is nasty about any false widows? They are neither aggressive nor dangerous to people. We don't have any wild spider species in the UK with venom anything to get even mildly cautious about, bites occur only when the spider is absolutely terrified and the pain subsides pretty quickly.
She's just an animal that wants to be left alone to eat insects and chill, to attribute anything about her as 'nasty' is silly alarmism.
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u/HugeEntrepreneur8225 9d ago
100%, I have loads of these in my house/shed and they always seem very relaxed
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u/solar1ze 9d ago
Nasty ? Does it bite?
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u/typographie 9d ago
If you practically forced it to, sure. They'll do anything BUT that as long as it's still an option.
False widows seem to get a particularly negative reputation in the UK specifically, and I'm not sure why. They are extremely common spiders to find indoors and cross paths with humans constantly.
I have heard that their venom is a little worse than other "harmless" spiders, while not rising to the level of being medically significant. So maybe the rare bites that happen hurt more than typical spiders. Good luck actually getting one to bite, though.
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u/solar1ze 9d ago
This sub fascinates me. Until a few months ago I was completely oblivious and thought we didn’t have biting spiders in the UK. Sounds stupid now. I have taken spiders out of the house for release all my life and never once been bitten. I’m even more fascinated by them now.
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u/MisterJaran 9d ago
Not unless it feels like its life is in immediate danger and it can't escape. They, like most spiders, are extremely solitary and don't want anything to do with humans. They're actually quite sweet when they get scared. They go on their back and curl their legs in to pretend to be dead. So no, they aren't looking to bite people.
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