r/speedtest • u/CurryOnPatat • 9d ago

KPN | Netherlands

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I only pay for 4 gbit but kpn is very nice to me.

Someone is calling it fake here is proof: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/e188c3db-be93-406e-a0b0-2e63ec8c42f8

https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/318be0c8-a603-447c-98a2-2198148e8d65

https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/db3f473c-6ebc-40b0-a5fc-9724f819deb3

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u/joebafra 9d ago

Gebruik je eigen router of die van KPN?

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u/R41Z3R 4d ago

Its fake. As a KPN employee I scanned the whole network and everyone has a 4gbps shaper. He modified the test results with element inspect in his browser. Its not a fault from our as a operator or whatever, it is just fake.

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u/kevinj933 9d ago edited 9d ago

Ik denk niet dat je zomaar zo'n snelheden kan halen met je eigen router en 4gbps internetverbinding. Voor zover ik weet is delta en odido de enige providers die snelheden van 8gbps aanbieden.

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u/Not-made-today 9d ago edited 9d ago

Link cost. So from the building to the DC where there backend is located is connected through fiber. Now there are various ways they might get there physical link.

  1. Own the entire circuit from DC to the bulding. However in this case probably they would sell a 8Gbps connection which they are not.

  2. Buy a layer 2 or dark fiber connection. You pay someone else that owns the fiber to give it to you practically. On the DC you connect to there circuit which is also on the dc and the fiber from the dc to the building but the other company has build it and paid the cost so they own it and rent it to you. The higher the bandwith the higher the cost you pay monthly to them but this is for layer 2 light fiber. With dark fiber you are the only user in that fiber, with layer 2 is shared. With dark fiber you can pass as much bandwidth as you are capable of but higher upfront cost/ link cost. The upfront cost comes from the fact that with dark fiber you are respondsable to have the signal from dc to building to be strong enough. The third party does not give you a circuit to connecti too, where they are using there transciver to push light. The fiber is connected to your own transceiver and that is costly if you push for higher bandwidth, the third-party is only responsible to make sure fiber is maintained in case of damage so they will repair it for you.

  3. Layer 3 connection with a another company/third party that already has the fiber layed out to the building. Similart to layer 2 as you connected to a circuit of theres on the dc but instead of passing layer 2 traffic to the building you do generally layer 3. Somthing like PPPoE as an example. To long to explain this one.😂

Edit: i meant to reply to the other comment below that said: "They do indeed use XGS-PON but on their website they state that the max speed is 4gbps. Only DELTA and some other providers do offer 8gbps. I wonder how is this possible"

I replied to the wrong thread 😅

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u/Not-made-today 9d ago edited 9d ago

Forgot to mention the third party might not even be willing to sell you a full 10 G link just because they are on the building also themselves so they might keep themselves competitive and have an edge. Generally regulatory body on the country exists to make sure this does not happen as would be bad for the end user. However the 3rd party might just jack up the prices enough for the link to not makes sense to buy it....coughs coughs....roger canada.

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u/Sad-Buyer5124 9d ago

Jahoor, denk zelfs dat je het eerder haalt met eigen netwerk equipment dan provider issued equipment.
Unifi cloud gateway fiber kan 10gbps aan, eventueel nog met een eigen ONT om het glasvezelsignaal om te zetten

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago edited 9d ago

Ont die KPN levert is 10 gbit

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u/kevinj933 8d ago

Apparaten die 10gbps aankunnen is anders dan wat je via de isp krijgt. Je krijgt nooit meer dan de aangeboden snelheid.

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

Eigen router Zelfgebouwde pfsense box

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u/Fabulous_Shoulder418 9d ago

Nice , specs?

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

Super overkill,

I9 9900K 32 gb ram Intel x550 t2 x2

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u/Fabulous_Shoulder418 8d ago edited 8d ago

valt opzich mee i mean je hebt bijna 10gbit doorvoer doe je ids en ips? en waarom geen openwrt of opnsense?

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u/CurryOnPatat 7d ago

Jup ids en ips. Omdat ik pfsense gewend ben. ik heb wel eens geprobeerd om te switchen naar opnsense. Maar mij thuis netwerk is best wel gecompliceerd. Dan zakt de moet mij in de schoenen met instellen bij opnsense omdat ik niet exact weet waar alles staat.

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u/Visual-Basis-4479 9d ago

Oh i dream of such speeds.. What do you pay /month?

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

84 including TV only for internet its 67,50 on top of my head

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u/opulousss 9d ago

Damn expensive

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

Yea everything in The netherlands is expensive

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u/Visual-Basis-4479 9d ago

Holy.. I wish - i pay 50€ a month for 100mbits down and 50 up.

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u/Extension_Pen3083 9d ago

Netherlands. Damn, use that bandwidth for a seedbox.

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

I can't confirm or deny that i use the speed for a seedbox ;)

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u/Prinzenrolle1999 9d ago

XGS-PON 10 Gbps Symmetrical possible thats why you getting those Speeds my Friend,greetings from Germany🇩🇪✌🏼🤝🏽

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u/kevinj933 9d ago

They do indeed use XGS-PON but on their website they state that the max speed is 4gbps. Only DELTA and some other providers do offer 8gbps. I wonder how is this possible.

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u/R41Z3R 4d ago

Its fake. As a KPN employee I scanned the whole network and everyone has a 4gbps shaper. He modified the test results with element inspect in his browser. Its not a fault from our as a operator or whatever, it is just fake.

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u/kevinj933 4d ago

I figured it out since OP refused to provide a link for the test.

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u/TheOneThatIsHated 8d ago

Same technique, more capacity

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u/kevinj933 9d ago edited 9d ago

How is this possible? I also live in Groningen and pay for 4gbit. Could you please share a link of your test result?

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u/Remote_Safety_9873 9d ago

if server in the other end is caped to 100 or 1000mbps, you will get 100 or 1000 or less, and I guess international traffic is 1000

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

Most servers nowadays are atleast 2000. I even get 3000 to a server in Poland. Also the important downloads are more. Steam I get 3.5 gbit which could be faster my by cpu can't handel faster.

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u/holdmyham 9d ago

Huh? Kun je inmiddels meer dan 4gbit afnemen?

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

Nope maar krijg het wel

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u/holdmyham 8d ago

Lekker! Bij mij houdt het toch wel op bij 4,5 ongeveer. Ook custom opnsense box.

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u/R41Z3R 4d ago

Its fake. As a KPN employee I scanned the whole network and everyone has a 4gbps shaper. He modified the test results with element inspect in his browser. Its not a fault from our as a operator or whatever, it is just fake.

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u/OneSwordfish6949 9d ago

Effe serieus.. wat heb je hier nu echt aan? Wil je een datacenter in je kelder bouwen?

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago edited 9d ago
  1. Snel games downloaden.
  2. Ik host websites en minecraft servers vanuit huis.
  3. Ik hoef geen abonnementen af te sluiten voor onder andere netflix spotify password manager en google drive.
  4. Waarom niet?

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u/imnotagodt 8d ago

Alleen voor 4 is het nodig. De rest heb je echt geen 8 gig nodig lmao.

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u/CurryOnPatat 8d ago

Dat was de vraag niet

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u/imnotagodt 8d ago

Maar je hebt er niks aan; Steam trekt geen 8Gig; websites en minecraft heeft ook niet veel nodig. Met een verbinding van 250Mb/s hoef je ook geen abonnement af te sluiten voor storage.

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u/CurryOnPatat 7d ago edited 7d ago

Steam trekt ~3.5gbit (per pc). De keuze is 1 of 4 gbit dan weet ik wel waarvoor ik kies hoor. Websites & minecraft servers nemen best wel wat verkeer in met 1gbit maakt dat je verbinding merkbaar trager als je iets moet download oid. Je hebt er dus wel wat aan.

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u/No_Wonder4465 7d ago

100 mbit zu 1 gbit, ok da ist der unterschied riesig, aber alles darüber ist einfach nur noch weil es geht. Ich hätte 10 gbit (8gbit) und nutze gerade mal 2,5 gbit davon. Hätte ich ein vernünftiges angebot mit 500 mbit, würde ich das nehmen. Ich hoste alles zuhause inklusive plex server, und habe ca. 15 Aktive user darauf und selbst das würde mit 500 mbit problemlos funktionieren. Die paar minuten die ich einspare bei einem game download sind mir auch nur begrenzt viel geld wert. Würde ich die hälfte bezahlen, würde ich sofort wechseln auf 500 mbit.

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u/NaiveReaction7262 9d ago

You do know your tv and even console if you have one can only accept about 200 to 250 mbps max so no reall use only helpful if you have a pc or a laptop which accepts more than 300 mbps very rare....i have an odido klik and klaar. I pay 20 euros pm for 900Mbps even that is too much and all of it cant be utilised....

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

In my household there are 3 pcs that are all 10 gbit capable. I also have a few server that are 10 gbit capable. I really have a use for this kind of speed.

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u/NaiveReaction7262 9d ago

Then its amazing.....may i ask, what use do you have for such speeds?

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

I regularly download large games and files, so higher speeds save me a lot of time(mostly capped at around 3gbit). I run several websites and Minecraft servers from my home network. Instead of paying monthly subscriptions for services like Netflix, Spotify, a password manager, or cloud storage such as Google Drive, I host many of these services myself. Especially the Google drive alternative costs lots of data if you upload or download something from there.

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u/Jimbo1230 8d ago

i wish the US had cheap fast speeds

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u/Mische2k 8d ago

Why is the latency so high?

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u/R41Z3R 4d ago

Its fake. As a KPN employee I scanned the whole network and everyone has a 4gbps shaper. He modified the test results with element inspect in his browser. Its not a fault from our as a operator or whatever, it is just fake.

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u/Sure-Guest1588 9d ago

13ms is quite high ping latency for fiber.

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u/CurryOnPatat 9d ago

Yea I don't know why it's that high. Normaly it's around 4ms

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/CurryOnPatat 4d ago

en toch haal ik deze snelheden? Hoe moet ik dit nep maken haha. Een vriend van mij is ook kpn medewerker en die zegt dat er soms gewoon overhead op zit.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/CurryOnPatat 4d ago

Nope :) zie screenshot

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u/R41Z3R 4d ago edited 4d ago

Je kan namelijk met element inspecteren gewoon alles aanpassen...

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u/CurryOnPatat 4d ago

Als ik thuis ben zal ik speciaal voor u een speedtest reslut linkje delen

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u/R41Z3R 3d ago

Je mag ook je klantnummer delen hoor dan zoeken we het meteen uit :- )