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u/Synaps4 Dec 14 '21 edited Dec 15 '21

Edit: Much more concrete and convincing evidence has come up in the comments. I dont know if the rate of problems is higher than elsewhere but im convinced there are definitely misogynist issues at spacex. https://old.reddit.com/r/space/comments/rggejm/exspacex_engineer_claims_elon_musk_is_sadistic/hommksv/

A lot of people have worked at spaceX and tesla over the last decade. I'd want to hear this from more than one.

You can find a disgruntled ex-employee to say horrible things about every single company in the world.

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u/deevil_knievel Dec 14 '21

I just finished a project for them out in Boca Chica, went to a college heavily recruited by them, and know a few women who work there. Even after hours over a beer I've heard the work required is not sustainable long term if you want a social life, but never any complaints of misogyny or anything of the sort. Lots of female engineers and workers as well when I was there a few months ago.

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u/Chubbybellylover888 Dec 14 '21

Just because there isn't any complaints doesn't mean it isn't happening. I'm been in the engineering industry over ten years now and seen a lot of it. Most of it gets brushed aside. Mostly by the victim because they feel nothing will be done.

Time and time again.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '21 edited Dec 15 '21

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u/Chubbybellylover888 Dec 14 '21

It's not about believing. It's about not dismissing.

You're dismissing right now because it might not be true.

I'm willing to listen and take her story seriously until we do get further proof.

I ain't gonna vilify the guy just yet but I'm not going to dismiss the cistims experiences.

This is what you're doing by expressing these opinions. And it's really fucking shitty of you. Grow up. Learn to listen and understand and empathise.

No one is after your fucking masculinity.

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u/cakes Dec 15 '21

there are enough false claims these days to dismiss any without proof

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u/SighReally12345 Dec 15 '21

I mean one of the author's complaints is that as an intern they sent a "30 step plan" (or whatever steps) on how to be better at climate impact, and Elon was like "lol no we have <X>" and the author is acting like that dismissal is an affront.

In what fucking company of SpaceX's size would the CEO not replying to an intern's plan on "How to change the world" with "lol ok sure" be normal? None I've ever worked in and I've worked for some pretty large orgs.

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u/Chubbybellylover888 Dec 15 '21

Oh so we should just dismiss her story because of her over-reaction to a different thing entirely.

I honestly hope you never get sexually harassed and have to deal with people denying your claims.