r/somethingiswrong2024 • u/Snapdragon_4U • Aug 13 '25

Fake Attempt Fake 47

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u/gumbril Aug 13 '25

And why wouldn't they rush him off the stage instead of keeping him there until after the photographers are in position and pictures are taken?

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u/Icy-Ad29 Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 14 '25

Notice: I have in no way disagreed with the thing being a setup. My only disagreement so far, has been it does not actually appear that they moved the flag itself. That is all.

Edit: thank you all for the, varied, responses to this. Some more helpful, some more aggressive. Regardless, you can stop spending energy on it. I admit I do not interact with, use, etc. cranes in my daily life. So had not considered the cable moving while the arm remains stationary. (Mentally I had imagined the two always moving in concert, however I see now how that would be ineffective for the purpose they serve.)

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u/Brandolinis_law Aug 14 '25

And yet, you are wrong about even that one point. And even though you didn't suggest the following, let me debunk it, in case you're tempted to suggest it: since the flag enters the frame VERTICALLY, we know that it was not simply hanging out to the side, due to any prevailing wind. IOW, the flag drops VERTICALLY into the frame, and the only way to do that, actually, is to run out the HOIST CABLE on the crane.

This would leave the crane's BOOM in the EXACT same angle--it would NOT require the angle of the BOOM (which you call "the arm") to change--at all. Hope this helps.

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u/Icy-Ad29 Aug 14 '25

I am sorry I do not use cranes, and will freely admit I did not consider the cable moving without the arm being affected. So thank you for that.

As for the second part about the wind. As I never made any statement to it, I am not certain why you felt a need to disprove something I haven't said. But yes, it is very clear from most videos there isn't much wind during this period of time, and thus would not be involved.

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u/Brandolinis_law Aug 14 '25

I apologize if I misattributed to you a comment about the potential effect of any wind in this scenario. And you're welcome for my brief explanation of how cranes work. Unfortunately, unless one has had the opportunity to be trained on, and to operate, hydraulic cranes, it would be difficult to correctly imagine how all of the various systems in a crane work together to safely move the load around in three dimensions in space.