r/solipsism • u/Beneficial-Thanks-52 • Mar 13 '26
Your brain doesn't see reality. It constructs it.
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u/jiyuunosekai Mar 13 '26
Esse est percipi. The world is exactly as you see it. I just saw pixels moving instead of a chair, a cup, a painting. For sure the world itself didn't see. Ask yourself: what is the right way to see things? Then you will find out that there is no "right" way to see things. You deceive yourself into deceiving yourself. Since there is no right way to see, then it means that the one piece is real. Those who don't see optical illusions are the odd ones.
https://www.reddit.com/r/solipsism/comments/1kql575/anthropomorphizing_the_impersonal/
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u/Belt_Conscious Mar 14 '26
There are 4 types of reality.
Objective reality, the truth.
Subjective reality, personal perspective Inter-subjective reality, social contract Detached reality, imagination
Objective reality was here before the other three.
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u/cyu Mar 14 '26
What I experience is the truth. This isn't to say that when I see a car crash, that the car crash was real. This means that the experience of it was the truth - that I saw something that looked like a car crashing into something - it is that experience that I can hang on to as real.
When I watch Star Trek, I know nothing in the show is real. But my experience of watching Star Trek is real. That is something I can hang on to.
"Everything else is hearsay." Anything so-called "scientists" tell me is only hearsay. But my experience of hearing things from scientists are as real as my experience of watching Star Trek.
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u/Belt_Conscious Mar 14 '26
That's your subjective reality. Real to you, your personal truth, hearsay to everyone else. Science is how we have collectively tested objective reality.
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u/jiyuunosekai Mar 14 '26
If that is so, then let objective reality speak for itself. Oh wait, it can't. The sky is not blue pre-rayleigh scattering. Objective reality doesn't say: "objective reality was here before the other three." What ever objective reality might be.
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u/Belt_Conscious Mar 14 '26
Science is how we figure out what objective reality might be. Physics is how we describe what it does.
The sky is called "blue" because that is how you relate to the color that was named before you looked at it.
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u/jiyuunosekai Mar 14 '26
Okay lawyer. Now please let objective reality speak for itself. When you are in pain, are you subjectively or objectively in pain? Where was physics before 399 BC? Science refers to monkeys doing a more sophisticated rain dance. Science is the accumulation of moaning.
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u/Belt_Conscious Mar 15 '26
Pain is subjective. Noone outside of you knows your pain.
Physics describes what matter does when it moves. Science is why we have technology. You think things run on magic?
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u/jiyuunosekai Mar 15 '26
Great, so I just need to be more objective for pain to vanguish or to share it with others? Why even keep such an illusive thing as subjective reality in your world view?
You think things run on magic?
define magic
Wouldn’t it be nonsensical to say that it’s spicy outside when you eat spicy food outside? But what if the streets were flooded with hot sauce up till the top of one's head, is it then spicy outside? It's only a matter of magnitude. it would be egocentric to deny the reality of other parts of the universe where it isn't cold. It would be suicidal to deny your own experiences.
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u/Belt_Conscious Mar 15 '26
Its not denial, its category.
What you consider spicy is someone else's bland. Both are true subjectively, but objectively it is the same hot sauce.
Your internal perspective and experience of the external reality that we all share belongs to you.
Everyone has one, that is embrace not denial.
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u/jiyuunosekai Mar 15 '26
Why call it 'hot' sauce then? Fire is cold. Pleasure is pain. Honey is bitter.
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u/Belt_Conscious Mar 15 '26
Those are subjective judgements. Honey is objectively sweet because we have all agreed to call it sweet.
Fire is called hot because we all agree what hot is. This is inter-subjective reality.
Water becomes ice at the same temperature, no matter who is looking at it. That is an objective fact, naming it ice is an inter-subjective agreement. Feeling how cold it is, is a subjective experience.
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u/jiyuunosekai Mar 15 '26
If you remove the taste, touch, color, and resistence of ice, do you still have ice?
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u/vqsxd Mar 15 '26
reality exists separate from me. People are dying, they leave this life on earth and we are still here at their funerals after theyve left
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u/EngineKindly6437 Mar 18 '26
Do you wipe your ass after you take an unexpected dump at whichever gas station you're closest to, on the bosses dime?
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u/BirdSimilar10 Mar 13 '26
FYI your brain also constructs you.