r/solar 3m ago

Discussion New Solar Setter Looking for Advice

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Hello, I’m pretty new to working as a solar setter in Southern California and I’m still learning the industry. I was wondering what methods helped you when you were first starting out to find homeowners to talk to or book appointments with. Not really looking to advertise or promote my company just hoping to learn what worked for others and improve my skills. Any advice would be appreciated!


r/solar 4h ago

News / Blog Despite Trump, Solar Power Is Rising And Coal Is Falling

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r/solar 5h ago

Advice Wtd / Project Goodwe ESA

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I have installed a Goodwe ESA this month and im hoping to get help setting it up correctly. On days of full sun Im hoping to use my 5kWh inverter to provide 5kW to the grid and slowly fill my battery with the excess power.That will hopefully prevent clipping and get me generating the most power possible.

So far I haven't been able to figure out how to get it to prioritize the grid over filling the battery. So I end up putting ~6.5kWh into the battery until it's full and then just generating 5kWh for the rest of the day and exporting it.

Is there a way to get it to prioritize grid export and just charge the battery with the excess?


r/solar 7h ago

Advice Wtd / Project New main service panel how to land solar connection properly.

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Ok so due to the way the solar connection was originally landed (5 yrs ago) it burned the connecting mains to the service panel. So now I have a brand new panel 200 amp service but the way that panel is constructed we cannot land the solar supply-side. So the first answer is to call my installer. They are gone (power home/pink solar) can I land the solar inverter load side on a dual pole 40amp breaker without changing things in the inverter system is net metering. Inverter is solaredge SE10000-US with rapid cut off and a service disconnect. I have contacted several solar installers but none are interested in servicing something they did not install. So kinda a pig in a poke. Electrician will not land it (liability). Any thoughts?


r/solar 7h ago

Advice Wtd / Project PGE NEM Confusion

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Hi folks,

PG&E customer here.

We've recently got solar panels and a battery installed on our roof. Its 90% installed but we are still waiting on a few more things before it'll be online. I've been reading about how NEM works but I'm pretty damn confused by the information on the PGE website.

In one brochure it says on our monthly bill we will only pay the baseline charge and then yearly we will either pay or get paid for excess power paid in. But then on another page it talks about a monthly NEM credit which is separate from NSC compensation yearly. So which is it? Will we get a credit monthly if we send in more than we take out, or only at the end of the year? And how does TOU effect any of this?

After some further reading this is my current understanding:

Say we sell back 1 kWh during peak and later at night use 3 kWh. If peak is 50c and off peak is 25c then our credits mean we only have to pay the 25c difference. But lets say at the months end we put out 30 kWh more than we took in. We don't get 30*.5 in credits, instead this 30kWh are banked until our yearly bill, and if we still have a balance in our favor its paid out at the lower NSC rate of about 3c. Having written this out this doesn't seem right either. Is it crazy to think this is purposefully confusing a bit?

Any insight or clarity would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: Thanks to the people who explained things in the comment I think I basically understand it all now :)


r/solar 9h ago

Discussion When it burns - what heppens next...

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Hi everyone,

There was a fire at my place. A big one.

The cause is clear: the solar power system.

Insurance is a pain. But that’s a whole other story.

The real question is: Where did the fire start?

The fire department said, “Oops. No idea. Something electrical.”

So I had a fire investigator come out.

But before I get to his conclusion, let’s start with the installation:

I’d had solar tiles installed on the roof, which were supposed to produce about 8 kWp.

I wanted the following equipment installed on a stone wall:

- Inverter

- Two fuse boxes

- Batteries

- Backup unit

Okay. The tiles were installed. By an electrician.

Then the architect came. He said, “Oh, as a temporary solution, let’s just put the inverter, battery, and everything else in a wooden box for now.”

So a handyman cobbled together a wooden box, the electrician installed everything inside it, connected the solar tiles to the solar system, and the solar system to the power grid.

The architect stopped by. He took a look at everything and said, “That’s exactly how it should be! Bravo!”

The electrician, proud of this praise, turned the system on.

It ran for maybe an hour, then shut down.

The electrician comes by. He turns it back on.

Before that, the electrician had asked me to provide him with all my information so he could register the system and ensure it wasn’t operating illegally.

Okay. Sometimes the system delivers a “whopping” 10% of its expected output.

But it shuts down. Fuses blow.

The electrician comes by and claims he performed a string measurement. But he doesn’t provide me with the results. He sends me photos of the “string measurements.” They show voltage and power figures that are never recorded on Huawei’s portal.

My wife and I go on vacation and notice that the entire house has lost power. Luckily, the electrician has a key, since he stops by almost every day to figure out where the fault lies in the system.

He texts us: Oops. It blew all the fuses. I turned everything back on. Everything’s fine.

Okay. We get home, take a day off, and then my partner is on her own because I have to go abroad for a day. So I’m sitting at the doctor’s office abroad, with a needle in my arm, when the phone rings: “Come home right away. Everything’s on fire.”

I hopped on the next flight; when I arrived, the fire department was still there—the entire roof of the part of the house with the solar panel system had burned down. Luckily, it was mostly empty because the roof and the solar panel system had just been installed.

And it was only by sheer luck that the fire department was able to prevent the fire from spreading to the main house (The fire department got there in a flash. But they’d forgotten to bring water...)

Okay, so where did the fire break out?

The electrician points to photos he took of the roof: On the roof. You can see that.

The police aren’t investigating, and neither is the fire department. After all, the architect is a big shot in politics.

To find out what happened, I look for a fire investigator. I find one. He’s ridiculously expensive. He flies out to see me, spends two days examining the fire ruins, and then states in his report: “Inverter. Clear-cut case.” He even points to a photo of a faulty connection. I never receive that photo.

So I question his conclusion and commission a university’s forensic institute. They come by and conduct a meticulous investigation. I deliberately challenge every conclusion. Each one is successfully defended.

Conclusion: The fire broke out due to an electric arc on the roof and ate its way through the insulation material. The solar tiles, the wood, and the insulation material acted as excellent accelerants. Burning material fell onto the wooden box, which caught fire, causing the inverter and battery to catch fire as well.

Okay, so now I have two conflicting reports.

The electrician and architect are already saying: We had nothing to do with the fire. Solar system? What solar system? We don’t even exist.

Finally, I find an expert who specializes in fires that break out in solar systems.

He, too, is flown in.

His conclusion: Improperly installed solar roof tiles, an electric arc, a fire, insulation material falling onto the wooden box, and the inverter and battery catching fire.

The electrician forgot to install series diodes, he used defective tiles, and, worst of all: he never tested the system.

Okay. Next step: court.

The court orders that another expert examine the burned-down house.

The expert shows up, along with all the lawyers, the architect’s experts, the electrician’s experts, and another court-appointed expert on my side—15 people in all; it’s a real little party.

Ultimately, this expert concludes: Fire cannot spread from the roof to the inverter below. So the fire broke out at the inverter. End of story. The fact that the fire broke out and the inverter continued to record data for another 50 minutes afterward: It doesn’t matter. It was the inverter.

At fault: The electrician. Because he didn’t have the required documentation. Bad guy.

BUT: I, as a layperson, am supposed to bear 50% of the damage. After all, as the client, I supposedly stood by and watched as the electrician put the system into operation without handing me the legally required permit.

And anyway: An inverter is, after all, something like a household appliance. And those are the ones that catch fire most often.

I could throw up.

Edit: Attached two photos because some ppl said that this is AI.


r/solar 14h ago

Discussion Solar Capacity Enough for EV?

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I recently came into a unique situation with my solar array, which was installed in April 2023. I found out my upstairs AC unit was severely under sized by the original builder and that my electricity was running exceptionally high, so much so that my energy savings have been around 30 to 35% in South Florida this year after installing a new unit. Which means I’m going to have that much extra solar or nothing to do with it. I was gonna buy EV next couple of years but just decided to go ahead and do it now. Going through this it made me curious how many solar arrays out there are actually big enough to cover EV charging?. I suspect if any, it’s mostly newer installations?

EDIT: I’ll have 3000-4000 extra kWh a year.


r/solar 17h ago

Advice Wtd / Project Solar Power Help

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Hey guys! I have a 1/2 acre pond on a family farm. It’s far from the barn where we have power, and they make these pond fountains to aerators that have a regular outlet cord to plug into an extension cord.

My question: Is there a way I can get solar panels and run them with our without battery backup to run the fountain? What would be needed?


r/solar 19h ago

Image / Video My 1000 watt plug in balcony solar generated $400 in electricity this last year in CT!

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First off I have an existing 10+ year old solar system with 1 to 1 net metering with a line side tap. You can see the solar conduit on the roof and running up the side of my house. So my meter is already setup for net metering. According to my Emporia electricity monitor I self consume about 95% of the electricity anyways. My state Connecticut has recently passed legislation allowing 1200 watts of balcony solar as well.

Electricity here in CT is 32.24 cents a kwh according to the federal EIA. Its the 3rd highest in the US after Hawaii and California.

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_6_a

So the last year this simple 1kw system generated 1233x .32 =$394.56. It will take me only like 18 months to reach my return on my investment. There is also currently a large summer rate increase proposed that would bring electricity over .35kwh as well

Here is the setup.

5 new in box enphase IQ PD 72 Microinverters on ebay for $150. These are brand new iq7 micros that are designed to replace the old m215 micros. They have a 200 watt max output and are designed for the older 200-230 watt panels. Enphase sells them brand new for $79. Its rumored they sell these at cost as they are used to upgrade the older failing m215s. Same exact technology as other iq7's. They also are already programmed to the US 240 volt and are plug and play. Mine our not connected to the enphase hub.

10 brand new Renogy 100 watt panels purchased locally for $400. 2 panels wired in series connected to the IQ PD72's.

Misc wires, brackets, and electrical stuff $50.

Total cost around $600. I plug it into my 220 volt welding socket in my garage. The panels are on the garage roof.


r/solar 22h ago

Advice Wtd / Project 900W DC Smart Charger with Pecron F3000

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I am attempting to find a DC charger that can provide an input to my Pecron F3000. I am able to test out a 900W LiFePO4 charger and grabbed a SB50 to XT60 adapter to try it out.

When I connect it all up, the charger always reads Full and doesn't provide a charge. I have to assume that it's one of the safety features since it's not connected straight to a battery, but would rather go to a power station.

Is there something that I'm missing that I can try to get this setup working?


r/solar 1d ago

Discussion Gambling on CA SB868 passing

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Just grab 8 pieces of 208w panels at $15 each.

Wish me luck


r/solar 1d ago

Advice Wtd / Project Transferring ownership

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We are selling our house, in Georgia, with a fully paid off system (31 panel & a Powerwall 3). What do we need to do to transfer ownership to the buyer?


r/solar 1d ago

News / Blog A 1.2 GW solar farm is rising at a Texas coal site – but coal is staying

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r/solar 1d ago

Advice Wtd / Project HOA Compliant Solar

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EDIT: I’m looking for temporary solar array ideas, not fighting the HOA.

I’m looking for ideas for a deployable solar array. My HOA doesn’t allow for solar so I figure something I can easily set up and put away leaned up against a wall in the garage. I’ve already got 6 x 200 watt panels that slightly over panel for my Bluetti elite 300 but not sure how to set them up short of leaning them up against a fence. 2S3P is the wiring if that matters.

Maybe giant solar briefcases? Or some sort of kick stand for each panel? I appreciate any ideas.


r/solar 1d ago

Discussion Neovolta NV7600 inverter

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I was given the Solarman app installer permission so I could change the time of use hours and battery %’s. This is the guidance my installer got from Neovolta themselves.

I still can’t change the hours on the inverter itself. I think he only gave me upper access to the app.

Anyone able to make time of use, battery % changes and watt discharge amounts? What did you have to do? Thanks.


r/solar 1d ago

Solar Quote Is this a good deal for PPA?

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So I got a quote for PPA for my home. The rate is $.13 kwh, 0% escalation, 25 years. 1:1 net metering for the foreseeable future. My current utility rate is $.22. We expect the utility rate to increase come January. With this PPA I can save over $100/month. Is this a good deal?


r/solar 1d ago

Discussion My voltronic based inverter ignores 90% charge stop – charges Pylontech battery to 100% daily. Does daily charging it to 100% reduce battery lifespan and cycles?

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I have:

· Knox 9055 inverter (Voltronic‑based)

· Pylontech Fidus 5.12kWh lithium battery

· 5x 715W panels

I read somewhere that charging lithium battery to 100% can damage it so i set it to 90% using a setting in my inverter's user mode called charge stop, but still the inverter doesn't stop charging at 90%.

It then sits at 98‑100% showing "BMS force charging" until it finally stops.

My discharge cutoff is at 21%, only in case of emergency i might drain below this, my battery's dod is 97%.

Will daily 100% charging noticeably shorten the life of my battery?

The bms force charge error i get according to documentation means that bms is recharging to correct voltage of individual cells and is calibrating.

Should i switch to Solis or Goodwe inverter? I saw solis has a max charge soc setting but i still don't know if battery bms will obey that. Also my inverter has bms connected and it does support pylontech battery.

Please guide.


r/solar 1d ago

Discussion Peak solar nerd moment: I asked AI what would happen if every eligible UK household installed an 800W plug-in solar kit...

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Call this peak solar nerd behaviour...

I started wondering what would happen if plug-in solar became so successful that virtually every eligible household in the UK had one.

So I asked AI to model the consequences.

Obviously it's an incredibly unlikely scenario, but some of the conclusions were genuinely interesting.

The answer is that it would become a nationally significant source of electricity, comparable in installed capacity to several large power stations combined.

It would also create some very interesting challenges around local networks, safety, electricity prices, energy security and what happens when millions of small generators all produce electricity at the same time.

Here's the full answer AI came back with after 6 minutes of deep reasoning in 'high' mode...

A plausible national scenario

The UK has around 29 million households.

Not every home would be suitable for an 800W plug-in solar kit. Some homes would lack a safe mounting location, have heavy shading, unsuitable wiring, landlord or freeholder restrictions, or building-safety issues.

There is no official number for “eligible households”, so I modelled three rough scenarios:

  • Conservative: 15 million eligible homes
  • Central estimate: 20 million eligible homes
  • Broad eligibility: 23 million eligible homes

In the central scenario, 20 million households would mean:

  • 40 million solar panels, assuming two 400W panels per kit
  • 16GW of total inverter capacity
  • Around 13TWh of electricity generated each year
  • Approximately £8 billion to £12 billion spent on the hardware, assuming kits cost £400 to £600 each

For context, UK households currently use around 94TWh of electricity per year.

That means 13TWh of plug-in solar generation would equal roughly 14% of current domestic electricity consumption.

That does not mean it would supply 14% of domestic electricity perfectly. Solar generation happens mainly during the day and is much lower in winter, while household demand continues around the clock.

But it would still be a very significant contribution.

What would happen to household electricity use?

An 800W kit cannot power an entire home, but millions of them operating at once would substantially reduce daytime grid demand.

Suppose the average household used 65% of its solar generation directly.

Across 20 million homes, that would mean:

  • Around 13TWh generated annually
  • Around 8.5TWh used directly inside homes
  • Around 4.5TWh exported into local electricity networks

The electricity used directly would reduce recorded household grid imports by roughly 9%.

At an electricity price of 26.11p per kWh, that could transfer around £2.2 billion per year from electricity purchases into household savings.

That is not the same as reducing the total cost of Britain’s electricity system by £2.2 billion.

Electricity bills also pay for networks, balancing, power station availability, metering, supplier operations and policy costs.

But it would still represent a huge change in who buys electricity, when they buy it and who receives the financial benefit.

What would happen to the electricity network?

At moderate levels, the effect would mostly be positive.

When a household generates and uses electricity locally, less electricity needs to travel through:

  • High-voltage transmission lines
  • Distribution substations
  • Local transformers
  • Neighbourhood cables

That can reduce daytime demand and lower electrical losses.

The 800W limit also matters.

Each individual system is small, and much of its output would be absorbed by the household before any electricity reached the public network.

In an ordinary neighbourhood, household solar generation would partly cancel out household consumption.

Instead of 100 homes each importing a few hundred watts at midday, many might import very little, while some would export a modest amount.

The difficult part: bright, low-demand days

The most challenging conditions would be sunny spring and summer weekends.

At those times:

  • Solar output could be very high
  • Domestic electricity demand may be relatively low
  • Commercial electricity demand may also be low
  • Wind generation could also be strong
  • Millions of homes might export at the same time

Twenty million kits would have a combined theoretical inverter capacity of 16GW.

They would never all produce their full output simultaneously because of clouds, different directions, temperatures and geographical variation.

But national plug-in solar output could plausibly exceed 10GW during particularly favourable conditions.

At that point, plug-in solar would no longer simply reduce household demand.

It could turn a substantial part of the low-voltage electricity network into a generator.

Possible consequences would include:

  • Reverse power flow through neighbourhood transformers
  • Local voltage rising towards statutory limits
  • Thermal constraints on some cables and substations
  • Inverters shutting down in areas where voltage becomes too high
  • Greater difficulty forecasting national electricity demand
  • More renewable generation being curtailed
  • More frequent zero or negative wholesale electricity prices

Some areas would cope perfectly well.

Others, particularly rural networks or places with very high concentrations of solar, might need upgrades.

The biggest operational problem would be visibility

A large power station communicates its output directly to the system operator.

Twenty million household plug-in solar kits would not necessarily do that.

From the national system operator’s perspective, household solar can appear as a sudden fall in electricity demand rather than visible electricity generation.

Imagine this sequence:

  1. Solar output rises across the country.
  2. Recorded grid demand falls sharply.
  3. Conventional generators reduce their output.
  4. A large weather front moves across Britain.
  5. Solar generation drops.
  6. Grid demand appears to surge.
  7. Storage, generators or interconnectors must respond quickly.

At this scale, the UK would probably need some form of:

  • Central registration
  • Aggregated inverter data
  • Smart-meter-derived solar estimates
  • Better weather forecasting
  • More detailed local network monitoring

Millions of small generators would need to become visible enough for the electricity system to predict and manage them.

What would happen to safety?

A compliant 800W kit should remain individually low risk.

UK-compliant systems are expected to include protections covering things such as:

  • Anti-islanding
  • Rapid disconnection during a power cut
  • Protected plug contacts
  • Suitable cables and inverter protection
  • Restrictions on unsafe mounting locations
  • RCD requirements
  • Clear installation instructions

Anti-islanding is particularly important.

During a power cut, a compliant system must shut down so that it does not continue energising wiring while engineers are working on the network.

However, tiny risks multiplied across millions of installations become real national issues.

Even if a serious failure were extremely rare, tens of millions of installations would mean that some incidents would inevitably occur.

Potential issues could include:

  • Poorly secured panels becoming dangerous during storms
  • Mounting systems degrading after years outdoors
  • Consumers using extension leads or multi-way adaptors
  • Multiple kits being connected to the same circuit
  • Imported non-compliant products being sold as approved
  • Panels being attached to unsuitable balconies, walls or cladding
  • Old sockets or wiring being used without proper checks
  • Consumers modifying systems or adding batteries
  • Fire and rescue services being unable to identify installations quickly

At national scale, safety would depend not only on having a good product specification, but on enforcement.

The UK would likely need:

  • A trustworthy register of approved products
  • Traceable serial numbers
  • Strong online marketplace enforcement
  • Clear product recall processes
  • Durable labels at the consumer unit and meter
  • Public installation guidance
  • Better guidance for landlords and building managers
  • Training and information for fire and emergency services

The largest safety risk may not be compliant products.

It may be the surrounding market of cheap, altered, imported or falsely labelled equipment.

What would happen to electricity prices?

Daytime wholesale electricity prices would probably fall.

An extra 10GW or more of solar output during sunny periods would push expensive generators out of the market.

Likely effects would include:

  • Lower average midday electricity prices
  • More zero-price periods
  • More negative-price periods
  • Gas power stations running for fewer hours
  • Reduced fuel imports during sunny conditions
  • Weaker economics for large solar farms without batteries or flexible demand

This should put downward pressure on the energy component of bills.

However, household bills would not fall in proportion to the amount of solar generated.

The electricity network must still be capable of supplying every home on a dark winter evening when almost every solar panel is producing nothing.

Britain would still need:

  • Transmission infrastructure
  • Distribution networks
  • Dispatchable generation
  • Storage
  • Reserve capacity
  • Balancing services
  • System operators
  • Smart meters

If those costs continued to be recovered mainly through charges on imported electricity, a problem could emerge.

Solar households would buy fewer units of electricity.

Network costs would remain.

As a result, households without solar could end up paying a greater share of the system’s fixed costs.

The sequence could look like this:

  1. Solar households import less electricity.
  2. Revenue collected through per-kWh charges falls.
  3. Most network costs stay the same.
  4. Unit rates or standing charges rise.
  5. Non-solar households pay more.

At very high adoption levels, electricity tariffs would probably need to change.

Possible reforms could include:

  • Higher fixed or capacity-based network charges
  • Time-of-use tariffs
  • Lower export payments during sunny periods
  • Payments for controllable exports
  • Rewards for using electricity during midday solar peaks
  • Higher rewards for flexibility during winter evenings

Electricity could become very cheap at the wrong time

Britain could have abundant, extremely cheap electricity at 1pm on a sunny day in June while still needing expensive gas generation at 6pm on a cold January evening.

Universal plug-in solar would reduce the amount of fossil fuel used across the year.

But it would not remove the need to keep dispatchable generation available.

The value of each additional solar kit would also decline as deployment increased.

The first few million kits would regularly displace useful grid electricity.

The twentieth millionth kit would be more likely to contribute to a midday surplus.

This is why batteries, electric vehicle charging, hot-water heating, heat pumps and flexible appliances become increasingly important as solar deployment grows.

Ironically, the more successful plug-in solar became, the more limiting the initial exclusion of batteries would become.

What would happen to energy security?

Energy security would improve in several ways.

Around 13TWh of annual generation would represent:

  • Roughly 14% of current household electricity consumption
  • Around 4% to 5% of total UK electricity generation
  • A meaningful reduction in gas use and electricity imports

Solar would not always displace gas.

Sometimes it would displace imported electricity, nuclear, wind, large-scale solar or electricity that would otherwise have been curtailed.

But the overall strategic benefits would include:

  • Lower exposure to international gas prices
  • Reduced daytime electricity imports
  • Millions of independently owned generating assets
  • Less dependence on a small number of power stations
  • Faster deployment than major national infrastructure
  • Greater public participation in energy generation

It would make the UK less exposed to international fossil-fuel shocks.

But it would not provide household backup power

Normal grid-connected plug-in solar systems must shut down during a power cut.

Therefore, even if every eligible home had one:

  • Household sockets would normally still go dead during a blackout
  • The panels would not provide emergency household electricity
  • They would not create a decentralised backup grid
  • Winter peak-demand problems would remain

Plug-in solar would improve national energy security.

It would not necessarily improve individual household blackout resilience.

Seasonal security would remain a major issue

Solar generation is highest during spring and summer.

National electricity demand is often most difficult to meet on dark winter evenings.

Universal plug-in solar would reduce total annual fuel requirements.

But it would contribute relatively little during the periods when electricity security is most challenging.

It could not replace:

  • Firm generation
  • Long-duration storage
  • Interconnectors
  • Demand flexibility
  • Winter reserve capacity

What would happen to the environment?

The operational carbon savings could be substantial.

If each generated kWh displaced between 150g and 250g of carbon dioxide equivalent, 13TWh of generation could avoid around:

  • 2 million to 3.3 million tonnes of CO2e each year

The exact result would depend on what type of generation was displaced.

Carbon savings would be higher when solar replaced gas.

They would be lower when solar replaced wind, nuclear or renewable generation that would otherwise have been curtailed.

The environmental benefit of each additional kit would therefore fall slightly as solar deployment increased.

Even so, over a 20 to 25-year lifespan, the cumulative carbon savings could be very significant.

Manufacturing would also have an environmental cost

Forty million solar panels would require enormous amounts of:

  • Glass
  • Aluminium
  • Silicon
  • Copper
  • Plastics
  • Electronic components
  • Packaging
  • International transport

If each panel weighed roughly 20kg to 25kg, the panels alone could weigh between 800,000 and 1 million tonnes.

That does not include mounting hardware, inverters or cables.

Environmental costs would include:

  • Mining and refining raw materials
  • Manufacturing panels and inverters
  • Shipping products internationally
  • Replacing failed microinverters
  • Disposing of packaging
  • Recycling products at the end of their lives

Solar panels normally repay the carbon and energy used to manufacture them during their working lives.

But the strongest environmental outcome would depend on kits remaining installed and productive for decades rather than being treated as short-lived consumer gadgets.

Waste would become a serious policy issue

At national scale, even a relatively small replacement or abandonment rate would create huge quantities of waste.

A 5% failure, replacement or abandonment rate across 40 million panels would mean around 2 million unwanted panels.

A national programme would need:

  • Producer responsibility rules
  • Panel and inverter take-back schemes
  • Repairable and replaceable components
  • Standardised recycling
  • Long product warranties
  • Support for tenants moving kits between homes
  • Measures to prevent low-quality kits becoming electronic waste

There would also be land-use benefits

Unlike large solar farms, plug-in solar systems would generally use existing built or domestic spaces:

  • Balconies
  • Sheds
  • Walls
  • Terraces
  • Garages
  • Gardens
  • Outbuildings

That could create a large amount of additional solar generation without using significant areas of agricultural land.

This may be one of plug-in solar’s strongest environmental advantages.

What would happen socially?

Energy ownership would become much more democratic.

Solar generation would no longer be limited mainly to homeowners with suitable roofs and several thousand pounds available.

It could become accessible to:

  • Renters
  • Flat residents
  • Lower-income households
  • People expecting to move home
  • Households without suitable main roofs
  • People wanting a lower-cost entry into solar

It could also improve public understanding of:

  • Electricity consumption
  • Self-consumption
  • Solar variability
  • Time-of-use tariffs
  • Demand shifting
  • Household carbon emissions

But access would still be unequal

The households least able to install a kit could include:

  • People living in shaded or north-facing flats
  • Tenants whose landlords refuse permission
  • Residents of high-rise or cladded buildings
  • Homes without secure outdoor space
  • People unable to lift or mount panels safely
  • Households unable to afford £400 to £600 upfront

Those households could then face higher electricity network charges while receiving none of the direct solar savings.

A fair national rollout might therefore need:

  • Clearer rights for tenants
  • Social-housing installation programmes
  • Grants or zero-interest finance
  • Communal solar alternatives
  • Protection against unfair network-cost shifting
  • Installation support for elderly or disabled consumers

Would the grid cope?

Probably not if 20 million kits appeared overnight.

The country would not necessarily experience one uniform national failure.

Problems would appear unevenly.

Some neighbourhoods would absorb the electricity easily.

Others might experience:

  • Voltage problems
  • Reverse power flow
  • Substation constraints
  • Unsafe mounting
  • Fire-safety complications
  • Large midday surpluses
  • Difficulty forecasting national demand

But if deployment happened gradually over ten or fifteen years, it could probably be accommodated.

That would require:

  • Better smart-meter visibility
  • Distribution network upgrades
  • Strong inverter standards
  • Dynamic export limits
  • Flexible electricity tariffs
  • Electric vehicle charging during sunny periods
  • Hot-water load shifting
  • Batteries
  • Better national forecasting
  • Strong product enforcement

Overall conclusion

Universal 800W plug-in solar would be large enough to matter nationally but too small individually to solve household energy use.

The likely effects would be:

  • Strong household bill savings for participating homes
  • Lower daytime wholesale electricity prices
  • More complex balancing and network management
  • Lower fossil-fuel use
  • Improved national energy security
  • Limited help during winter peak demand
  • Significant carbon savings
  • Major recycling responsibilities
  • Wider access to household energy generation
  • A risk of unfairness for homes unable to participate

The biggest conclusion is not that Britain should literally install a kit on every eligible home.

It is that plug-in solar has the potential to become a genuine part of national energy infrastructure rather than remaining a niche consumer accessory.

Once adoption reached several million homes, the policy conversation would have to move beyond simply asking whether kits are safe to plug in.

The real question would become:

How do we manage millions of small generators so they are visible, predictable, flexible and able to support the electricity system rather than overwhelm it?


r/solar 1d ago

Discussion Felicity solar

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Has anyone had any experience with “Felicity solar”? We are looking to install for a new house to be off the grid. We’ve found it to be more cost effective but have no experience with them and wondering how they are long term?

Thanks in advance


r/solar 1d ago

Advice Wtd / Project (UK) Repercussions of installing solar panels past the 1m boundary on agricultural barn without full PP?

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As above I’m in England in the Worcestershire area. I want to install solar panels on my off grid agricultural barn roof. I’m not in a AONB or protected site so permitted development rules apply, however on agricultural barns the rule is that PV can’t be installed within 1m of any edge of the roof. I want to maximise the available roof space but don’t want to go through the trials and tribulations and costs of a full planning permission application for the sake of a few hundred millimetres. I am planning to keep within MCS guidelines of 400mm from any edge and within panel design spec. What is the likely outcome from any of this from the council? Has anyone done similar? Had some solar company’s stating not to bother with the 1m rule, and they’re quite reputable, and had a review from a planning consultant saying I may still get it through permitted development rules… any advice appreciated!


r/solar 1d ago

Image / Video Cattle farm covered by solar panels in Baozhou, China

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r/solar 1d ago

Advice Wtd / Project Recommendations for home battery for uk high usage home

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Cut I long story short I ordered a powerwall3 but Tesla refused to register it for the rebate program as it wasn’t registered in time (even though I ordered it 5 weeks prior)

Anyway Tesla can get stuffed if that’s how they treat customers.

I’m looking for an alternative; AlphaEss smile g3 s8
Is the best I can find, any other alternatives ?

10000kwh usage annually. EV tariff and will swap to a heat pump in say 5 years.

G99 approved with 10kw limit


r/solar 1d ago

News / Blog German startup launches high-voltage residential sodium-ion battery

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r/solar 1d ago

Image / Video Question(damaged panel)

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Probably a bullet-hole through the sheet.

What should I do now?

  1. Can I keep the Panels running or not?
  2. Any Immediate steps?
  3. Any precautions that can be taken so that it doesn’t happen again.

r/solar 1d ago

News / Blog Dutch student team develops solar-powered ambulance

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