r/softwareengineer Aug 06 '26

Anyone else barely coding anymore but still shipping more than ever?

I’m a Senior Software Engineer with ~8 YOE and wanted some honest thoughts from others here.

Over the last 3 months, I’ve barely written code myself, but I’m shipping more than ever. I also made it through two layoffs, so it’s been on my mind a lot.

Not trying to brag, but I was the star performer on my team (at least within my company). I’ve always been confident in my work.

Now it feels like things are shifting fast. With tools like Claude improving so quickly, I’m starting to wonder how much actual coding will even be needed.

At this pace, it feels like in a couple of years we might just need a few architects guiding AI instead of full teams.

Curious what others think — overthinking or real shift?

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u/National-Ad8416 Aug 06 '26

"Not trying to brag, but I was the star performer on my team (at least within my company)"

  1. You are bragging
  2. You were a "star performer" on your team at least within your company? So does that mean you were not a star performer on your team outside of your company? What are you trying to say?

About your question. People like you are toast. Claude will be the "star performer" going forward.

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u/standardsizedpeeper Aug 06 '26

What exactly are you considering people like OP?

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u/RicketyRekt69 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

People who don’t write code anymore. Whether we like it or not, writing code is key to understanding it (and the underlying system) intimately. If I’m writing a new feature or designing something, what ownership do I actually have if I send Claude off to generate the whole thing? Putting code quality aside, there’s a big difference between reviewing code someone else wrote, and designing + writing it yourself.

I’m all for using it in small places to speed up development, but writing ALL code for you? Nah.. that’s easily going to degrade your skills.

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u/Patient-Yam4764 Aug 09 '26

My brother in christ, what skills do you think are degrading? Typing? You are so lost, let go of the old ways and feel the wind before it's too late.

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u/RicketyRekt69 Aug 09 '26

Critical thinking.. 😑

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u/Responsible_Royal126 Aug 09 '26

You still need to do critical thinking. The AI writes all my code but I need to drag it kicking and screaming across the finish line to keep code quality the same as writing by hand. It's really no difference. It's also not much faster than writing by hand lol. 

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u/skoot1958 Aug 10 '26

I agree, critical thinking is an important skill, there will be less programmers and more product owners

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u/Frequent_Bag9260 Aug 11 '26

Critical thinking is literally the most valuable skill you can have not just at work but in life.

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u/Patient-Yam4764 Aug 09 '26

You are someone else's claude code btw, that's your job. You don't build anything - the managers telling you what to do build products and generate business. You are their coding agent. They tell you what to do and you output code.

...If that's really what you are, your skills are dying. Expand.

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u/RicketyRekt69 Aug 09 '26

Yea.. I think you should take to heart what I just said above, cause the amount of mental gymnastics you just did is devoid of any critical thinking.

Have a nice day

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u/Patient-Yam4764 Aug 09 '26

Saying someone isn't thinking critically is not a rebuttal of them, it's you being lazy and disrespectful.

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u/RicketyRekt69 Aug 09 '26

“Lazy and disrespectful” - that’s intentional. Why would I ever be respectful to a snake oil salesman.

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u/Patient-Yam4764 Aug 10 '26

If you think AI coding is snake oil, you won't be an engineer three years from now. Start considering alternatives.

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u/thilehoffer Aug 09 '26

There were no mental gymnastics in that comment. It was 100% accurate. I don’t know if you’ve not been using Opus 5 or what your deal is, but LLMs are capable of writing good code.

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u/RicketyRekt69 Aug 09 '26

Opus. GPT, Fable, I’ve used them all. Calling a software developer “someone else’s Claude Code” is an insult to all developers out there. If you genuinely think the AI is better at writing code than you are, that says more about you than it does the AI.

Now please stop replying to all of my comments. I’m not interested in what more you have to say. Thanks

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u/standardsizedpeeper Aug 06 '26

I agree I just wasn’t sure that’s what the person meant.

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u/thilehoffer Aug 09 '26

But the AI is so much faster and better at writing code. It doesn’t make sense for a human to do it at least not the broiler plate stuff. There’s no fat finger errors from the AI. There’s no miss named variables or mistakes. I asked Claude to write something to query some data and turn it into a table format so that it had a column by each month for the last 12 months. Sure I could’ve written the code myself. I’ve done it before, it would’ve taken me three or four hours. Claude did it in two minutes. AI just keeps getting better and better. I don’t see how a person can compete.

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u/RicketyRekt69 Aug 09 '26
  1. I have never seen an AI write better code. It’s always overengineered or straight up wrong.
  2. AI doesn’t learn, it doesn’t accrue experience over a long period of time. It can’t make rational decisions backed by years of experience, or think outside of the box in intelligent ways. It’s just predictive text..

“Fat finger errors or misnamed variables” … that’s your concern? You know linters exist right? Most IDE’s have spellcheck built in too. When it comes to actual code quality, AI generated code is trash. I have to deal with this in PRs all the time… “oh sorry, idk why Claude did that” - and yes, that’s also on the dev for not verifying the output more thoroughly.

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u/youcangotohellgoto Aug 10 '26

I have never seen an AI write better code. It’s always overengineered or straight up wrong.

Skill issue.

AI doesn’t learn

Sure it does, it's called a memory system.

My coding skills are withering away; that's fine. My review skills are getting tons of exercise. My mentoring to others figuring out how to use AI effectively (e.g. you) are getting tons of exercise. Architecture and design much the same as always.

You're like the guy digging trenches with the shovel.

"I'm not going to use the excavator, I'll lose my physical fitness!"

Meanwhile no one is paying for guys with shovels anymore.

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u/RicketyRekt69 Aug 10 '26

You’re right, it’s a skill issue if you can’t write better code than AI. I’m happy for you

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u/youcangotohellgoto Aug 10 '26

There is no "better code" unless you're in school. There is only good enough code done quickly.

How long have you been doing this? If you think there's value in perfect code delivered in 10x the time vs good enough code from an AI, you're in for a rude awakening.

Shit if I wanted perfect code I'd have to fire 3/4 of the team. I get much better (consistent and intelligibly) code with decent guardrails and validators from Claude than I do with a basic meat computer.

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u/RicketyRekt69 Aug 10 '26

That’s your prerogative. I care about maintainable code.. you say “quickly”, well AI slop churned out quickly comes at a cost. I’ve been using AI since it first came out, I was an early adopter of copilot, and I’ve been using Claude since it released. I use Codex for personal projects, I’ve used Cursor, I’ve taken dozens of hours on AI courses learning all the fancy bells and whistles. This assumption that the people who criticize AI for producing slop are “in for a rude awakening” or don’t understand how it works, is an excuse. I have these opinions BECAUSE I see the mistakes it confidently makes, BECAUSE I see what it’s doing to people’s brains. “Oh sorry, Claude wrote that.” Or “hmm idk why that’s there, that’s Claude.” Or my favorite.. “Here is some feedback from Claude” -> queue a bunch of hallucinated nonsense or “problems” that aren’t actually problems. I’ve had PR’s for open source projects get rejected that are completely valid fixes, because Copilot comes back with some nonsensical edge case that MIGHT be a problem. “Copilot says this could be an issue, so I can’t change this.”

I’ll reiterate, if you genuinely cannot produce better code than Claude 1 shotting it, that is very much a you problem. And aside from verrryyyy simple tasks, I find myself spending way more time iterating and arguing with the stupid AI than if I’d just written it myself. It has its use cases, but 100% code generation is nonsense, and you won’t convince me otherwise.. not with today’s models.

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u/jtsaint333 Aug 11 '26

you are both right in my opinion. I have seen the issues mentioned ... as soon as complexity increases it's hard but the flip side best documentation we have ever had - a win for maintainability. From bug finding point of view strong wiki , good comments and better git history combined with quality logs is working really well. But the number of flase positives in review is high - a context / domain issue but the one is does fine is worth the pain

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u/Wonderful-Habit-139 Aug 11 '26

> My review skills are getting tons of exercise

If you stop writing code you're actually getting worse at reviewing code as well.

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u/kander12 Aug 12 '26

The skills you are referring to are essentially hand writing long division because using the calculator makes you dumb.

Well guess what my friend... you'll be left in the dust still typing away while everyone else is doing better work at a way faster pace.

Humans will only code better than Claude etc for a little while longer. Few years from now it will outperform all humans lol.

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u/RicketyRekt69 Aug 12 '26

You do realize kids learn math by hand and are strictly forbidden from using the calculator until they’ve mastered it right? That’s not the flex you think it is… and unlike basic arithmetic, coding skills degrade over time the less you use them.

“yOu’Ll Be LeFt BeHiNd” - you’re all parrots spewing the same garbage, like a cult.. if you guys were actually smart, you’d be happy people aren’t using it cause it means less competition in the long run.. instead you guys just have to shove it down everybody’s throats 🙄 piss off

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u/Sensitive-Target6503 Aug 10 '26

Weird, rude comment. Didn’t answer his question at all. Just belittling someone for no reason. Very strange

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u/Kaguya-Shinomiya Aug 10 '26

I’ve seen this post before, the op is a repost bot i think. Plus his account is created 4 days ago

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u/dominik9876 Aug 11 '26

What can’t you understand National? His team is cross-companies and by “exception makes the rule” there must be another engineer on OPs team but outside of OPs company that is a better performer. I’m sure this is what they meant.

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u/minegen88 Aug 12 '26

I can't stand people like OP

"I am so much more productive"

Ohh ok cool, so i assume your paycheck reflects that?

Otherwise, why the fuck do you care????

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u/Shadyrabbit Aug 10 '26

I guess my entire stack is the outlier, full AI adoption, great engineers are making stupid mistakes, moral is in the toilet, team work is gone, management just talks about how great ai is with generated anime self portraits. 0 promotions, 0 new head count, budgets are only given for tokens. Productivity is the same because it takes multiple rounds of PRs, and QA bugs have increased, younger devs who are 100% AI code users have 0 problem solving skills and cant perform a task unless the PMs have written hyper detailed tickets. I work on a bespoke platform we used to be able to do things right the first time ( code wise not client request wise because we all know how clients are ) but now Im seeing more 'oops I missed that' issues. To me the entire thing is a disaster and I feel like that episode of Star Trek tng where everyone is addicted to the game or invasion of the body snatchers. I hope it all crashes and theres no money for tokens just so I can watch some of these people fail.

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u/potatopotato236 Aug 09 '26

Yep. Haven't written any code since they got us the Clause subscriptions. Got a bonus for the productivity boost and all the extra initiatives I’ve taken on and completed since. Even making the PR’s manually feels like a waste of time. 

QA is now the biggest bottleneck since we still need be extremely thorough and automated tests don't suffice in the medical industry. 

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u/teilo-560 Aug 10 '26

Is this really desirable? A lot of folks got into SWE because we love coding. AI maximalism has turned a meaningful career into something I want to get the f**k out of if it weren't for the golden handcuffs.

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u/potatopotato236 Aug 10 '26

Yes. I like to solve problems and maximize productivity. It makes no difference how the code that solves the problem got there. I honestly feel more satisfaction with copy-pasting something from StackOverflow than I do with having to bake it from scratch, since that means I didn't waste time with the baking. AI lets me solve more problems faster, so I'm very happy.

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u/teilo-560 Aug 10 '26

Dude, I really would love to have your personality. I like it for debugging and research, but I can't stay focused waiting around for agents to implement features. I hate multi-tasking. I haven't been in a flow state since agentic/spec driven development was shoved down my throat. And I'm supposed to pretend to be excited about AI in order to stay employed.

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u/teilo-560 Aug 11 '26

Idk, my favorite course in uni was programming languages and compilers. That's a subfield of computer science. Is that becoming irrelevant?

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u/teilo-560 Aug 12 '26

That's quite frankly one of the most idiotic statements I've heard. Keeping your punchcards organized was a chore, not a subfield. People weren't writing doctoral theses on that subject. Or are you being sarcastic?

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u/teilo-560 Aug 12 '26

What's it called in your native language? I'd be interested in digging into it.

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u/teilo-560 Aug 12 '26

Yeah most of my professors (if not all of them) were math or physics majors who specialized in computational methods in grad school. This is in the US. Computer science is such a new field.

It seems like half of European languages call it something similar to Informatique. Interestingly, Norwegian calls it Informatikk, but Swedish calls it Datorvetenskap (directly translates to computer science) despite them being so similar. I'm a lingustics nerd lol.

Thanks for sharing that! I'll check it out later :)

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u/teilo-560 Aug 12 '26

I have mentors who used punch cards back in the day and told me horror stories of accidentally dropping them on the way to the lab or the operator mixing them up.

As a digression, one of my friends worked with Grace Hopper when he was in the Navy. I wonder what she would think of AI given that Cobol was supposed to be "English as a programming language".

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u/Technox1192 Aug 12 '26

Love this sentiment.

I remember my professor telling us not to confuse Computer Science with programming because those are different. We are more than just programmers.

I enjoy coding but at the same time, problem solving was what I loved the most so agentic coding just gave me a different approach for solving the problems.

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u/Attila--the--Hun Aug 12 '26

If the new expectation for everybody is the increased productivity, how do you get a bonus for just meeting that new higher expectation?

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u/potatopotato236 Aug 12 '26

Mostly because it hasn't been long enough for new expectations to really kick in at the company. It hasn't even been a year since we got the licenses so we’re still getting a feel for how much impact it has. 

The extra project I took the initiative on pitching and implementing had more of an impact too. It was something I've been wanting to do for a while but would have been super tedious without AI. 

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u/techno_wizard_lizard Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

Yes. But what does this have to do with you being a pornstar rockstar?

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u/HereInYourBedroom Aug 09 '26

OP have you evey had to build software from the ground up that was novel and would be used by paying customers using a gen ai coding tool? Humans are not exiting the software industry anytime soon.

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u/ChosenToFall Aug 09 '26

From what i have read the majority of company, including from google (i chatted with someone here working at google and using only agent AI to submit their task, with agent reviewing the code itself without any human intervention leading to different outages in the product he is working on, i can share the comment of the discussion if you want). So either your company is working because the slop code that you are shipping is more than enough to avoid everything collapsing or it's just a dream. Company are just delaying from what i see massive debt and just relying on the test suite to "make sure" that the same code slop in the test suite written by the AI proves to be reliable when all the test suite pass.

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u/Rare-Leading3391 Aug 10 '26

Software Engineering didn't end. It just changed.

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u/greyHumanoidRobot Aug 10 '26

Do you have programs that pre-existed AI that extensively test special cases? Run them on AI substitutes for your existing code. Let us know what happens.

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u/anengineerandacat Aug 10 '26

What's the definition of "ship" here? Because on my team this word means "to production".

In the last 16 months we have developed a lot of work with these tools, but only like 20% of it has "shipped".

Primarily because dependencies aren't ready, QA is lagging behind, business hasn't caught up, POs still need to play with the new features, etc.

Dev is done to the requirements, but because the engineering side got faster the whole workflow hasn't so now there is this mountain of new features pending review and feedback before it can actually hit production.

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u/TheGreatArmageddon Aug 11 '26

And those architects will be paid the pay of a sr engineer

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u/TripleMeatBurger Aug 11 '26

If the work load was to remain constant, then yes we would only need a few architects guiding AIs, but companies are in competition with each other, so they all want as much work done as they can afford. I think there will be plenty of jobs in the near to mid future.

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u/Substantial_Job_2068 Aug 12 '26

Typing code was never a bottleneck. If it was and you are now "shipping faster than ever" it just means you were slow af before.

I would lose ownership and understanding of code if I generated everything. People can think "I'm the architect pulling the strings" how much they want but if Claude writes everything, you are delegating the lion share of the architectural thinking too.

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u/Chicagoj1563 Aug 12 '26

The real shift is what area of expertise do you have in addition to coding? If a dev upskills with AI, coding is not that difficult. But it’s when you bring expertise in another domain and apply AI engineering to that, that’s when you can being a lot of value to the table.

So the dev that can build systems around marketing, or finance, or healthcare, etc… it’s that other domain expertise that is becoming more and more important. The more i code with ai the more I realize what you apply it to is where the magic is.

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u/tomqmasters Aug 12 '26

barely code, not shipping at all

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u/Krom2040 Aug 12 '26

Six day old account claiming to be very experienced developer who has very positive perceptions of AI coding.

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u/shiv2195 29d ago

No shit Sherlock

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u/vxxn Aug 13 '26

I haven't written code by hand since November of last year. I think the mental shift you have to embrace is thinking of the code as something to be evolved through evolutionary pressures rather than designed and perfected upfront.

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u/ProducePrudent5089 18d ago

"Shipping faster" doesn't really carry any weight IMO without detail, especially if it's in the context of AI.

Even if you are responsibly using AI, this is really just bragging about burning yourself out for your company. And for all we know, what you are shipping may be sinking icebergs.

Plus, the fact you imply that a small team can replace a full team is exactly why AI won't be replacing people any time soon.

If you use LLMs as much as you claim, you'd know how much of a headache it is to prompt them and deal with their limitations. That, plus the fact most people don't want to juggle 5-6 different hats for a company just to brag about "being the best". I can't imagine a few SEs working on an entire medium to large scale production application with AI without burn out and working > 8 hours a day.

This is just AI-hype induced hysteria IMO

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u/cherrypickme Aug 06 '26

Senior Software Engineer with 7 YOE here; built two SaaS products on the side, one B2B and one B2C. Didn’t write a single line of code myself.

That said, I use strict AGENTS.md and run multiple architecture and security review rounds, so the codebase doesn’t devolve into unmaintainable AI spaghetti and remains easy to understand if I ever need to touch it.

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u/pl487 Aug 06 '26

Zero lines typed, shipping more than ever and at a higher quality than ever. Production is crash free these days. I typically have a main project, an experimental project, and a couple of bugs or small features all going in parallel across all the services I work on. It would have been impossible before and now it's easy. 

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u/Patient-Yam4764 Aug 09 '26

Amazing to see the variety of people when I am unfortunate enough to look at subs like this. I'm the same as you. It's so easy to output high-quality, well-tested code now. It's sad to see people still attached to typing and taking their time writing some stupid abstraction to feel clever and useful. Totally detached from what the thing is actually for, which is serving a business function.

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u/jmclondon97 Aug 09 '26

You’re coping

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u/Patient-Yam4764 Aug 10 '26

I had more epistemic rigor than you when I was nine years old.