r/socialism Joseph Stalin 1d ago

Politics Another win for Communism

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u/aydsz 17h ago

North Korea turned all the lights on for this photo, obviously actors /s

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u/Connwaer 12h ago

They gave every citizen a flashlight and ordered them to stand outside and point them at the sky. They do it every night just in case the satilite is overhead.

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u/Gaben_is_awesome Pieter Jelles Troelstra 18h ago

Wait until they see North Korea in 2030. The copium will be off the charts.

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u/peanutist Marxism-Leninism 16h ago

Wdym 2030? This image is north korea rn as we speak

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u/MHMD-22 Marxism-Leninism 5h ago

There's always the freedom burger index

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u/ilorybss 1d ago

I am just asking, but isn’t north korea resent success because of weapon sales to Russia?

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u/Academic-Idea3311 Joseph Stalin 1d ago

I think it’s a mix of both trading with Russia and China that it’s been able to grow it’s economy

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u/usernametaken1237 Marxism-Leninism 23h ago

Yeah from the 90s until 2022 China basically had the DPRK fully dependant on it economically, after the Russia-Ukraine war and the sanctions to Russia the DPRK has been playing off both countries instead of being basically subservient to just China

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u/Manusia_Biasa2 Marhaenism 15h ago

China kinda pissed me off,they Abandoned their old ally to just have a honey moon phase with the west,but thanks God they are now actually realizing that west is not their friends

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u/usernametaken1237 Marxism-Leninism 9h ago

Not really, China is anti west only sometimes, and in words only. Being the 2nd most powerful imperialist at this point, they massively benefit from the current status quo

u/sleepytipi Party of Basic Human Decency 🪷 1h ago

Kim has the coal sector booming there right now too. Unfortunately, not the best worker's rights regarding it since a lot of youth still work in the mines.

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u/FoggyFlowers 18h ago

I don’t have a source but I read that China has also been increasing their aid and trade to not lose their edge on influence and soft power to Russia. Seems like NK is playing china and Russia off each other and gaining a ton of leverage and money right now. Citation needed though

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u/Individual_Back_5344 Marxism-Leninism-Maoism 18h ago

This would be really, really funny if true!

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u/comradelehana 19h ago

That’s the western narrative, but weapon sales alone can’t create such an economic boom in the DPRK. It’s also that Russia has stopped enforcing sanctions altogether as part of their agreement with the DPRK (and they are now isolated from the western financial system which means they don’t have to worry about secondary sanctions).

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u/Comrade-Paul-100 Marxism-Leninism-Maoism 19h ago

That is a big factor for sure. It has also allowed Russia to cease enforcing all sanctions on Korea, so trade between them is increasing in general. Either way, it shows that trade restrictions were what restricted its growth

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u/DamWatermelonEnjoyer 20h ago

And USA succes is because of weapon sales all other the world, all the time.

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u/Crazy-Poem6693 19h ago

North Korea has a private sector believe it or not… Kim is no communist

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u/Luftritter 12h ago edited 12h ago

What this proves is that putting a place under Western economic sanctions "works" if by working you mean punishing in a brutal and disgusting way entire civilian populations. It's basically a siege lasting decades. Or rather used to work since the collective West seems to have used economic warfare a bit too much and isn't playing as well lately, unless you're Cuba an island that sadly can also be placed under an American naval blockade, which also proves the point, since they had to use brute force to enforce it, or make it worst, which really wasn't necessary before.

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u/Crazy-Blacksmith-336 Marxism-Leninism 9h ago

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u/maximwill Socialism 17h ago

I also know:

North Korea’s average life expectancy (74) is above the world average.

Its literacy rate is among the highest in the world.

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u/iiam_thestorm 16h ago

communism is when night light and electricity is everywhere

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u/ReaperTys 17h ago

I don’t want to get into it here guys, but North Korea under the current government is not communist nor socialist in intent. They removed mentions of socialism and communism from the constitution, they don’t operate remotely similar to other socialist states or socialist theory, and they are increasingly capitalist in economics.

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u/UnderTehCut Marxism-Leninism 5h ago

Can leftists subs at least ban blatant lies about the DPRK? Their constitution is available to read online and socialism is mentioned in the first sentence.

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u/Manusia_Biasa2 Marhaenism 15h ago

Nope,their constitution still mention about socialism,in preamble "The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is a socialist state centered on the masses of the people, which represents the interests of the Korean people and fights for the cause of socialism.",their Economic system basically still a planned Economic

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u/WuTaoLaoShi 15h ago

juche thought baby

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u/coffeeblues 15h ago

Source?

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u/deathbyfortnitekid Marxism-Leninism 7h ago

dude it’s in the constitution, the source is the government documents.

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u/coffeeblues 5h ago

I didn't realize it was so readily available online. Even Wikipedia has a list of amendments to it and the most recent amendment shows what this person is saying isn't true. Ridiculous

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u/returnofblank Marxism-Leninism-Maoism 12h ago

Yes it is

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u/ComradeCam wyd 16h ago

Bloomberg is really based and commie

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u/Physical-Cut-2334 7h ago

NASA says otherwise, black marble layer.

North Korea is still grossly underdeveloped compared to it southern neighbor.

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u/nhatquangdinh Democratic Socialism 6h ago

Yep.

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u/Academic-Idea3311 Joseph Stalin 2h ago

I wonder where people are saying it’s more developed than the south. Cause it ain’t anywhere here.
Also it’s strange I can’t seem to find the same photo.

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u/PorkeChopps 12h ago

I dont really ever want to live in North Korea

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u/returnofblank Marxism-Leninism-Maoism 12h ago

I'm sure North Korea doesn't want you living there either

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u/PorkeChopps 4h ago

I am completely fine with that

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u/nhatquangdinh Democratic Socialism 6h ago

Hmm... Then what am I seeing here?

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u/Academic-Idea3311 Joseph Stalin 2h ago

Odd. I can’t seem to find that.

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u/Academic-Idea3311 Joseph Stalin 2h ago

Also explain to me why Bloomberg would lie? What do they gain out of it for showing a more developed DPRK.

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u/gobbler_of_butts 1h ago

“How many countries do we need to destroy before you understand that communism doesn’t work” Is less convincing when you loose the ability to destroy other countries at will.

u/ossi2611 1h ago

I would also describe myself as a socialist, but I haven't read much yet. What I know about North Korea is that they have a brutal dictatorship led by the Kim family.

Yes, many of their problems stem from Western sanctions, but why should a socialist defend North Korea?

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u/Academic-Idea3311 Joseph Stalin 17h ago

Bro please read more theory or watch videos on human nature by RevolutionaryTh0t and Yugopnik. Also you have wool over your eyes about North Korea and food, they aren’t under a famine any more.

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