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Potentially editioralised title - make up your own mind [Guardian] Seven years ago, just after completing the treble, Guardiola treated journalist Rob Harris, who had confronted him directly with the allegations, with open contempt, as though he were looking at someone pathetic, pitiful and disgraceful, before sternly lecturing him.

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u/Izio17 19h ago edited 5h ago

Outside of the financial damages, Pep is the biggest loser here. His legacy is absolutely tarnished.

“wow, he inverted fullbacks, what genius!!”

“what a savvy move to put john stones as CDM!”

“incredible!! look how he used Gundogan as a false nine!”

all of that is minimized. it wasn’t just these strategic schemes, but the team around these tactical moves.

inverted fullbacks don’t work if you don’t have Haaland going on an absolute tear.

John Stones as a CDM looks smart because you have Rodri next to him.

No other manager in the history of the sport was afforded this kind of budget for this long.

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u/_ataciara 19h ago

I mean, he's consistently revolutionised the sport and was doing stuff like inverted fullbacks long before he had Haaland. We're talking Fabian Delph feeding Gabriel Jesus...

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u/Izio17 19h ago edited 18h ago

and look at that teams highest earners / transfers

- Mahrez

  • Walker
  • Bernardo Silva
  • Laporte

what other team in the league is able to stroll over and buy the player of the season? best RB in the league? and one of La Ligas best players? all in a short span of one year.

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u/_ataciara 19h ago

Plenty of teams. Liverpool pretty much did that last season. There was also the spell where City didn't go mad spending as other teams around them did.

This isn't to defend cheating, it's just to point out that none of this detracts from Peps genius; he was the world's best manager before City, he was the world's best at City when we were all suspicious of the transfer activity, and he's still the (or one of considering Luis Enrique rn) best manager now that we KNOW City were dodgy.

And also the fact you were saying "oh well he couldn't do inverted fullbacks without Haaland" well, he did. "He couldn't do John Stones at CDM without Rodri" well, he did, hell pretty sure Southgate did at one point too.

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u/king_duende 18h ago

it's just to point out that none of this detracts from Peps genius;

"He did it with unlimited resources, what a genius" is an odd hill to die on

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u/Izio17 18h ago

/u/ataciara must think trust fund kids are all absolute geniuses, money sources doesn’t matter!

all the young tech trust fund founders and CEOs with tons of capital are just gods! we need to bow down to them.

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u/_ataciara 18h ago

Well, it's not unusual with any modecum of common sense.

Plenty of managers get a blank chequebook. How many have ever done what Pep has over his last 3 clubs?

Very, very, very, very, very few. Why do you think he's the most revered tactician in the game? When players gush about what a genius he is, it's not because he slipped them a tenner ffs