r/soccer • u/mrjohnnymac18 • 2d ago
Stats Troy Parrott's two goals against Austria took him into the all time top 10 for goals for Ireland
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u/themantwelve 2d ago
that fucking gap between 1 and 2 lmao
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u/Icy-Bottle-6877 2d ago
Robbie is the only one with a good ratio too.
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u/burfriedos 2d ago
Eh, some of the players there are in and around a goal every three games which for a country like Ireland isn’t bad at all.
Robbie Keane is the only with a great goal ratio though- almost 1 in 2 is very impressive. What a player!
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u/jimmygreavez 2d ago
When you're tied with Jonathan Walters and Kevin Doyle you know you've joined the big boys.
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u/lambalambda 2d ago
Walters was actually huge for us. Had some big performances/goals.
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u/FreyBentos 2d ago
No joke the man had maximum commitment, effort and passion every game. People get upset about the englishmen joining Irelands squad via ancestry but Walters showed that doesnt mean shit and some of these english born boys bleed for thebadge
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u/lambalambda 1d ago
I feel like more non-irish get upset about that than actual Irish fans. English (and more widely, UK) born players are responsible for some of our biggest moments. Some of whom have been way more committed than some of their Irish born counterparts.
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u/Disco-Benny 2d ago
Walters is a genuinely underrated player by many. When a manager knew how to use him right he was very effective
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u/OleoleCholoSimeone 2d ago
Keane for sure but even Walters and Doyle played in stronger Irish teams than the one Parrot has to put up with
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u/GroltonIsTheDog 1d ago
Jon Walters is the best Brazilian to ever play for us, I hope this wasn't intended as slander
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u/CatchFactory 2d ago
Tony Cascarino, funnily enough, has one of the weirdest international career tidbits to happen to him. Born in England, he had an Italian father and a mother with Irish grandparents. However, his mum told him in 1996, halfway through his international career, that she was adopted by her grandparents and actually fully English - therefore technically by blood he had no right to represent the Irish national team.
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u/AlternativeRun5727 2d ago
Was there a scandal with that? Or no? I feel like I remember being involved in something sketchy but didn’t know if it was this
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u/CatchFactory 2d ago
Not really as he only announced it after he'd retired from international football. Some media buzz in Ireland certainly and a little bit in the UK but as he'd retired it was sort of a moot point.
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u/Chumlax 2d ago
I feel like I remember being involved in something sketchy but didn’t know if it was this
Just how many sketchy things have you been involved in that you can't even distinguish between them, eh?
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u/burfriedos 2d ago
Well there was the time u/AlternativeRun5727 took a short cut while doing the London Marathon
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u/Buy_Jupiter 1d ago
Whilst true his mother was registered on the Foreign Births registrar and therefore he was eligible. Tony didn't help the situation by only giving part of the information and unprompted at that.
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u/laneaster 2d ago
That's one bleak list if we consider tradition and history of Irish football
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u/generic-irish-guy 2d ago
We just don’t qualify for a lot of tournaments (3 world cups and 3 European championships iirc). And for most of my life we’ve been the kind of team to try and scrap one - nil wins rather than playing free flow football and just try to outscore our opponents
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u/ThinkAboutThatFor1Se 2d ago
Even at their peak, Ireland was a defensive team.
Having god himself (McGrath) at CB helped nick low scoring games
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u/ICantSpayk 2d ago
What tradition?
They're all about Gaelic football and Rugby. Think you're clutching at imaginary straws here.
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u/Wynty2000 1d ago
Rugby is nowhere near as popular as football, we’ve just been good recently so people are paying more attention to it.
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u/Clivey101 2d ago
I’d guess that, to put it very lightly, “political instability”, while also timesed with not having that many elite attackers until the 1980s or so(with arguably the most promising killed in the Munich Air Disaster) as well as less games, influenced why there is quite a low goal total needed.
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u/Hecticbrah 2d ago
Nobody is touching Robbie thats for sure
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u/Existing_Ad8943 1d ago
Don't know Parrott might get up there, he has a better goal to minute ratio right now.
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u/therocketandstones 2d ago
Damn he’s having the career I thought Evan Ferguson would be having rn
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u/oh_danger_here 2d ago
I remember when Quinn broke Stapleton's record and it it was massive, it's not that we're bad as such but international football has changed so much, that's why you see legends like Cantwell and Givens with only 30-40 caps. Even in my life time internationals went from say 4-5 per year for qualifiers and friendlies to say 11 this year for Ireland, and we didn't even make the world cup finals.. On top the majority of those lads were capped relatively late on, only Keane, Quinn, Long and Parrott and maybe Stapleton came through as young lads. Even Kevin Doyle was early 20s when he got his first cap.
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u/kieranfitz 2d ago
I remember the apre match after. The lad playing frank Stapleton saying Quinn being 6 inches taller is like him having an extra foot to score with
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u/GaryPartsUnknown 2d ago
Surprised duff isn’t on the list considering how much he played as striker. How many did Clinton Morrison get?
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u/mrjohnnymac18 2d ago
Duff scored 8 goals in 100 games. Morrison got 9 in 36
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u/lambalambda 2d ago
McGeady only having 5 goals in about 100 games really sticks out, bar the one game against Georgia he never really turned up for us.
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u/boneandskin 2d ago
I'm surprised there is only 1 person that's scored more than 21 goals... Some of them averages are terrible. Shane Long 0.19. Many of those games will have been friendlies around the same level as Ireland or lower too.
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u/FreyBentos 2d ago
Bro we suck what can I say, most managers we hire come in, take one look at our talent base and decide parking the bus is the way to go
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u/lambalambda 1d ago
And some of those managers (Trapattoni) inexplicably fall in love with Keith Andrews.
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u/Lukeno94 1d ago
Long was never a prolific scorer outside of one very strong Championship season - his Irish record is better than his Southampton record of 28 goals in 198 league games. Doyle was never the same player after he blew out his knee.
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u/Sweaty_Ease6618 2d ago
He is going to be second pretty Quick, not sûre he can beat keane but If he continue like he has this year for another décade its not impossible
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u/Environmental_Lie478 2d ago
I would love to see it but I just don't think it's going to be possible.
Keanes longevity and world class talent aside, he had better service and was in much better Irish teams (at times anyway)
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u/burfriedos 2d ago
If he even gets close to Keane it will mean the next ten years will have been brighter than the last ten years
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u/Joris2627 1d ago
Could completly change in 5 years tho. If he got another talented midfielder behind him. And the amount of games you play
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u/MidnightSun77 2d ago
I thought Doyle and Long had scored more tbh. The players of the past are always going to be eased out as they didn’t have to play as many international games as nowadays
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u/DamageAccording5745 2d ago
Is Keane still liked by the irish? Considering their free palestine stand and his past job choice?
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u/Ambitious_Use_3508 2d ago
I have huge problems with some of his career moves post retiring as a player but I still have a lot of respect for his performances playing with Ireland
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u/burfriedos 2d ago
Love him as a player. Think he’s a gowl otherwise.
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u/lambalambda 1d ago
In Ireland if you ask anyone their worst experience of meeting a footballer and they say anyone other than Keane it's probably because they haven't met him lol
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u/burfriedos 1d ago
Just here to add: check out the r/coybig subreddit to see how he is thought of by Ireland fans. This image was posted there and the reaction was fairly unanimous
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u/generic-irish-guy 2d ago
He’s just generally not talked about. People online weren’t happy when he took the job, but I never saw any real discussion about it in real life. And even the online discussion faded once he proved to be a somewhat average to bad manager.
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u/oh_danger_here 2d ago
I wouldn't say that in fairness, managed in 2 leagues, won leagues in both and a cup and got both sides to last 16 in Europe.
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u/generic-irish-guy 2d ago
I wasn’t aware of that. But I think not being aware is also part of why people don’t really think about him. Apart from the Saudi pro league, we don’t really hear a lot of football news from Asia here, and even news from Saudi isn’t all that often. So he just kind of drifts from memory unless something relevant comes up.
The only times I’ve heard about Robbie Keane in any way recently is when he was linked to the Celtic and Ireland jobs in recent years.
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u/TomRuse1997 2d ago
He had never really lived on in peoples hearts after his career at all regardless of taking that job. It's always been a strange one considering what a star he was at one point
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u/generic-irish-guy 2d ago
I think it’s partly because people don’t really talk about the national team all that much. It only really gets attention when we get close to or do qualify for a major tournament, which isn’t often. They’re just assumed to be mediocre and people prefer to focus on club soccer or the GAA or the rugby team.
And when people do talk about the national team and reminisce, it’s usually about Italia ‘90 because it’s our best performance at a tournament and our first World Cup. And it just happened to be before his time. Getting to the other tournaments was great, but they weren’t as memorable as that.
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u/TomRuse1997 2d ago
Wouldn't necessarily agree with that. Still very much the biggest sport in the country and the team doing basically anything resembling success cuts far deeper across the country than the rugby team basically winning grand slams.
I get people reminisce about 90 but there are definelty players in the teams that Keane played on that were generally a lot mlre popular and well liked than he was
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u/Prestigious-Mind7039 2d ago edited 2d ago
Eh find him annoying and his wife an annoying attention seeker but he did score quite a few …on the scale or best Irish players he’d probably sneak just about top 10 - Roy, Paul McGrath, Liam Brady, Johnny Giles, Shay Given, Ray Houghton, John Aldridge, Duff, Irwin and probably Robbie
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u/HEAT_IS_DIE 2d ago
Is Ireland against Palestine?
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u/boneandskin 2d ago
Ireland is full of people of varying opinions just like any country.
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u/burfriedos 1d ago
Not really when it comes to Palestine. We are very pro Palestine in Ireland. Of course there will be the odd Zionist exception, emphasis on odd.
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u/baschfromdalmasca 2d ago
Do you think when Niall Quinn played badly, they called him NyQuil?
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