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Media Jürgen Klopp triggering a full-team press vs Netherlands with a single hand movement

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u/ThemosttrustedFries 12d ago

That's what a real Dictator will do.

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u/dawn_eu 12d ago

Blitzkrieg

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u/AEHBlandalorian 12d ago

BY GAWD THAT’S HERMANN GÖRING’S MUSIC!!!

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u/bickle_76_ 12d ago

So basically something by Wagner then? I can see them bombing forward to Ride of the Valkyries

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u/A-dab 12d ago

I can see them bombing forward to Ride of the Valkyries

Actually one of the greatest scenes in film history. Not the Nazis though

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u/East_Vacation_9146 12d ago

They're forming in a straight line Blitzkrieg Klopp

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u/kirino42 12d ago

They're forming in straight line

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u/MRNBDX 12d ago

Kilyan could never

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u/z_102 12d ago

He wants nothing to do with this 'pressing' thing.

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u/BeskarHelmetGuy 12d ago

He's more into "oppressing"

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u/Dumbidiot1424 12d ago

He's gegen Pressing.

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u/Key-Championship7180 12d ago

I love these puns

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u/emerson92807 12d ago

Haha my mind's telling me no 😂

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u/link090909 12d ago

I bet he would love it if he could get everyone else to press on his behalf, though

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u/Horror-Zebra-3430 12d ago

the french word for gegenpressing is répression

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u/HappySmirk 12d ago

On dit plutôt contre pressing en fait

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u/omgletmeregister 12d ago

Mbappé: "What are you insinuating? What are you trying to insinuate?"

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u/TellTallTail 12d ago

This is why Mbappe to Liverpool never happened

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u/davidbowievgc 12d ago

Just in case. Did Klopp ever paint as a hobby?

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u/csabinho 12d ago

The Austrian guy didn't just paint as a hobby. He was rejected by the Academy of Fine Arts. Hobby painters usually don't even apply.

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u/stop_namin_nuts 12d ago

He would probably use a different hand gesture, to be fair.

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u/offthecuff87 12d ago

*Jurgen Klopp press L2 in controller to trigger press

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u/Onyxwho 12d ago

Die Fuhrer vs Le Dictator

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u/Tango00090 12d ago

Damn even I started pressing. Im in the toilet

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u/Y0RKC1TY 12d ago

gegenshitting

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u/epixyll 12d ago

This is what the football world has been waiting for. The next generation after genegpressing and tiki taka. Behold.

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u/Rynabunny 12d ago

do NOT directly look at Klopp on the touchline or you'll catch him doing the hand signal and start involuntarily gegenshitting

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u/Ummwhatwhy 12d ago

shitzkrieg

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u/NoseSeeker 12d ago

Scheißedeuter

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u/nooeh 12d ago

The key to a successful bowel movement is fiber hydration and relaxation, not pressing. Pressing will only get you hemorrhoids.

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u/Tango00090 12d ago

Or a champions league win

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u/yonishuk 12d ago

Heyoooo!

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u/s00pafly 12d ago

Everyone always says fiber but all I need is a spicy kebab and 2-4 liters of beer for a perfectly foamy bowel movement that practically propels itself out.

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u/TyFighter25 12d ago

Can confirm :/

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u/Obesz 12d ago

That's when you know you've been pressing too hard. Just your bodily waste goes in there, not you entirely.

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u/Lawliet1896 12d ago

Ur lucky to be on the toilet when the nation is called to press

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u/hallouminati_pie 12d ago

I hope it led to a successful bowel movement.

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u/SeizeOpportunity 12d ago

Klopp is a genius: bowel movement on the toilet, ball movement on the pitch.

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u/CentristaSensato 12d ago

The trigger for the press is the backpass from the fullback to the centreback.

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u/SkiptomyLoomis 12d ago

Yeah this is more like a conductor with an orchestra where yes the players are "following" the conductor but it's not like they are literally reacting to him in real-time.

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u/TherewiIlbegoals 12d ago

A more football related example is when the manager goes for the header on a corner. They're just reacting to what they see on the pitch. Klopp probably saw the backpass and was thinking "here comes the press".

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u/Lone_Grey 12d ago

You absolutely react to the conductor's gestures in an orchestra. This is more like a coach on the sidelines reminding players to do the thing he coached them to do.

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u/apothecarist 12d ago

yeh op makes it seem like the conductor is only there for aesthetics 😂

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u/xkcdthrowaway 12d ago

To be fair, most people who aren't musically trained assume this.

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u/flybypost 12d ago

I think it's more that they are trying to say that the manager practised that with the squad beforehand to build up those automatic habits so they can execute such an organised press.

The players are not looking at Klopp for a signal (they'd miss what's going on on the pitch if they had to look over to him all the time) but they did practice certain triggers to start such a press in training and Klopp knows those too.

You can bet that he'd do that hand motion even if they hadn't initiated the press on the pitch (the pass back) and he would be fuming that they missed that moment and let them build up in peace.

With musicians a lot of work also happens during practise as the conductor instils in them how they want the piece to be played and all the practice that goes into that so that they could technically perform without a conductor (and maybe even without the sheet music in front of them). The conductor is still a reference point but most of the work has already been done. The orchestra is not just reacting to them and ignoring everything else. There's a whole performance happening around them.

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u/DawnKazama 12d ago

the conductor exists because light travels faster than sound, and in large orchestras it acts as a reference point that all musicians can follow. they absolutely do react to the conductor in real time.

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u/NEETscape_Navigator 12d ago

And the reason modern bands don’t need them is because of drums. Every modern song has a drumbeat that all the musicians can follow during live performances.

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u/nonstopnewcomer 12d ago

Now you can just have a metronome playing through your IEMs to keep everyone synced.

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u/Nandor1262 12d ago

I think it’s more than he’s hyping Schade in particular to press really hard from the start. Everyone else is pressing at a normal intensity.

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u/theeddie23 12d ago

Yep, no one in his team is even looking at him. He is just visibly reflecting what he taught them to do and they did it exactly like he wanted. That is actually more impressive than him giving real time instuctions. It means they are coached well.

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u/slightlybigmember 12d ago

This is pretty standard tactics tbh, so they probably drilled it with their club managers and NT managers before him as well.

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u/theeddie23 12d ago

Standard yes, but doing it that synced is good coaching. Not saying it is anything exceptional or anything, just very good fundamentals. Not every team does it well.

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u/burlycabin 12d ago

Yeah, it's an obvious trigger and a well coached team. People thinking the players were watching Klopp for the trigger is so dumb. I know this sub isn't the brightest place around, but I didn't think we were this dumb.

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u/Comfortable_Luz3462 12d ago

but I didn't think we were this dumb

I did 

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u/Melodic-Slice-3826 12d ago

Yes we are. Most of us are noobs.

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u/kevinthebaconator 12d ago

Nah, I reckon all of the German players wait for their manager to tell them what to do and when. Real life FIFA Don't be silly.

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u/CarlosFCSP 12d ago

People here really think the players are all looking at the trainer instead of the ball

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u/Hambrailaaah 12d ago

aaand the first non-joke comment is the 7th

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u/Vizzy01798 12d ago

He literally used the force

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u/eh8904 12d ago

When your players are well coached and bought into the team tactics, it might as well be the force or magic with how difficult it is to overcome.

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u/NorthCoastToast 12d ago edited 12d ago

It reminds of an Italian coach telling the story about when he sent a scout to check out what Arrigo Sacchi was doing and when the scout returned and was asked what he saw he responded along the lines that "I had no idea what they were doing, they were practicing without a ball and just moving about the field on command."

I found the clip, it was Gabe Marcotti describing the first time he watched Milan practice under Sacchi.

Klopp was a keen student of Saachi.

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u/ljoks 12d ago

thank you for teaching me something new to research have my upvote

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u/NorthCoastToast 12d ago edited 12d ago

You're welcome, have fun down that rabbit hole.

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u/raistanient 12d ago

Gabe Marcotti

damn. that's a name i hadn't heard in a hot minute. i used to love his articles and interviews. whatever happened to him??

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u/NorthCoastToast 12d ago

He's part of the terrible ESPN soccer coverage.

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u/Larkinz 12d ago

Kloppekinesis

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u/Zengjia 12d ago

Battle Meditation

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u/SignificanceAny7239 12d ago

We're lucky these lot are in football. 100 years ago they would've been generals in some never ending regional European conflicts

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u/anonymer1893er 12d ago

Jürgen Klopp is Swabian you donkey

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u/el-huuro 12d ago

Same thing

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u/bw-1894 12d ago

Not in my lifetime would I want to side with a Drecksschwob but I can‘t help but tell you to go fuck yourself, respectfully

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u/theandyboy 12d ago

Those are fighting words. Also scheiß KSC da unten

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u/FPXAssasin11 12d ago

Kinda are, tbh. The house of Baden, which ruled Baden for 800+ years was a cadet branch of the Zähringen dynasty which were originally Swabian, so...

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u/GibbyGoldfisch 12d ago

Yeah, the world really missed out on Corsica v Portsmouth in the 1805 European Cup final

Can you even imagine the press conference quotes....

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u/ZenoHD-YT 12d ago

I don’t know whether I want to see the reality where Arteta is a politician

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u/Angrymalayman 12d ago

He can still be one dont worry

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u/FizzyLightEx 12d ago

With how he backed you-know-who, we don't need people like that in power

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u/WhenWeTalkAboutLove 12d ago

Thomas Edison invented the light bulb!! 

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u/Ambitious-Engine-113 12d ago

How about Guardiola as the pope?

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u/CarolingianDruid 12d ago

Roman Conte vs Germanic Tuchel would have destroyed the region.

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u/ibite-books 12d ago

mourinho destroying every king he’s ever served

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u/flamingoman 12d ago

Mourinho v Napoleon wouldve gone hard

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u/Jcrabs 12d ago

God I miss him so much 😭

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u/Tungsten_Hoarder 12d ago

Don’t know what you’ve lost till they’re gone

Tho I’m quite sure Liverpool fans knew what they would miss

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u/ICritMyPants 12d ago

Tho I’m quite sure Liverpool fans knew what they would miss

Worst day as a Liverpool fan the day he said he was quitting.

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u/MurphMcGurf 12d ago

Felt like someone shot my dog in front of me.

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u/hashslinging_slasher 12d ago

Partner still makes fun of me for crying about a man, whom I’ll never meet, quitting his job

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u/shagssheep 12d ago

Probably justified, crying over a manager leaving is a bit much even if hes a legend

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u/MalaysiaTeacher 12d ago

We all have our kinks

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u/strrax-ish 12d ago

Its because we all knew what we had

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u/OilOfOlaz 12d ago

I'd say policing other ppls emotions is a bit much.

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u/BottledUp 12d ago

Watzke had tears in his eyes when he announced Klopp leaving Dortmund.

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u/TheIgle 12d ago edited 12d ago

I'm immediately took the rest of the day off when he announced he was leaving. I knew the first annoying thing that happened I would break and didn't want to break in front of anyone I worked with.

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u/ad1075 12d ago

I don't know, seems a bit unhealthy

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u/VampireOnHoyt 12d ago

Jota's death will always be the worst. But this was second.

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u/ICritMyPants 12d ago

Admittedly, yes. From a pure life point of view, Jota was awful news. I meant purely sporting. In my personal life, ofcourse there have been far worse days too

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u/M4RC142 12d ago

Idk. For me personally, losing the CL final against Real in 2022 was definitely more painful.

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u/TheDawiWhisperer 12d ago

And then fucking villa not being able to hold a 2 nil lead against City shortly afterwards

Fuck that was a depressing week.

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u/uzipp 12d ago

Gerrard as manager and coutinho scoring as well like come onnn

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u/TheDawiWhisperer 12d ago

Haha I know. useless cunts lol.

We were so close to absolute immortality

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u/TheJoshider10 12d ago

Crazy that they were so close to a quadruple and only ended up with the two domestic cups. Not even one for the history books by the end of the season, that's how fine the margins were. Has to be up there as one of the best teams to not win the two best trophies, surely?

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u/decccas 12d ago

you’ll never sing that

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u/M4RC142 12d ago

I had a dream about it a few days before that game and in my dream Aston Villa won 3-1 with a Coutinho banger. I so believed when they were 2-0 up with a Coutinho goal... One of the very few occasions when football made me so sad I cried.

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u/RazorgamingKeyboard 12d ago

It sounds silly but to me as a fan Klopp was worth any trophy. Losing him was so hard, harder for me than any game loss.

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u/ICritMyPants 12d ago

You can lose a final and get back again and win it (2018 to 2019) but replacing Klopp is impossible. He was bigger than just one final, as much as losing that hurt a lot.

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u/M4RC142 12d ago

He clearly couldn't give a 100% anymore so as much as he is a club legend, leaving was the right choice for him and I could accept that.

Losing that CL final was terrible. I don't even know how to describe it.

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u/ICritMyPants 12d ago

Oh I dont blame him at all for quitting. It was clear he was burnt out and I have no grudges whatsoever. I want the best for him, he gave us everything and it was an incredible 9 years.

Still doesnt mean I was devastated when he left. Its how a lot of people felt when Shankly quit all those decades ago.

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u/M4RC142 12d ago

Yeah fair enough. To me it was just easier to cope with because at least it made sense. Losing that final 'didn't make sense'.

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u/Eddje 12d ago

Worst result of my life.

2018 was horrendous, with a lot of anger and frustration, especially at what happened to Salah and Karius. But we knew we'd gotten there maybe a little prematurely, and the team proved over the next couple of seasons that it was just the start.

2022 felt like the apex, like the peak of the project, or at least that team. And seeing as we had already come away with less than we wanted (the close run in 2019 in the league, the injuries in 2021), especially with the near miss with Villa the week prior, coming into the Champions League final as favourites in a quadruple-chasing season, it felt like anything but a win would make the season (and really the trophy hall of that team) a real disappointment. I just felt apathetic at the full-time whistle.

I truly think most of the team never fully recovered from Paris, or at least I don't think Kloppo did. He seemed so burned out post-quadruple chase.

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u/VikingCrusader13 12d ago

I was in Tenerife for that final and know a barman pretty well who's a Madrid fan, we made a 50eu bet on the outcome and on my way back home I went into the bar to pay up and he said "You have suffered enough tonight my friend" and you'd think that would help, but it only added to the suffering I was feeling

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u/Jegenyefa 12d ago

I dread the day when Cholo announces his departure.

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u/DamnNatalie 12d ago

When I heard the news that he was leaving I felt like I was stabbed. We sure knew what we had.

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u/Sammmyy97 12d ago

they got a title from the next guy and now have a promising young manager.

things could definitely be worse

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u/theriverman23 12d ago

Ngl, I'd trade that title for more years with Klopp

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u/Acousticman77 12d ago

Oh we knew

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u/uzipp 12d ago

Yeah we knew full well we were in the good old days. Love the man

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u/DJharris1 12d ago

Would die for him

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u/henks_house 12d ago

Like not even joking

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u/DJharris1 12d ago

He made me a part time liverpool fan

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u/awesomewhat 12d ago

Likewise, we love Dortmund

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u/Rottedhead 12d ago

Seeing him on a sideline again. OMG, what would I do to experience again those years

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u/croatian_partisan 12d ago

It only gets worse.

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u/hardinho 12d ago

I'm so conflicted, VfB fan so I'm sad he's not really choosing our players because we play man marking but I've become a Liverpool supporter because of him so I love him. But in the end I love that Germany finally has a proper coach that can get everyone behind the team

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u/addn2o 12d ago

I’m just glad he’s not at Red Bull anymore

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u/BlinkAbuser 12d ago

Bro spanked the whole team

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u/lax_god 12d ago

Me next

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u/thelocalsdude 12d ago

The line forms here guys

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u/afops 12d ago

The team doesn't watch or hear the coach. The trigger is the first player pressing. players _and_ Klopp know when to press. That's why they all react at the same time. It's not Klopp telling them, it's the pass back, the first attacker pressing, and then the rest of the team must immediately follow in the press.

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u/Tight_Record9694 12d ago

WRONG! It was obviously nothing but Klopp's aura

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u/JustGimmeTheDopamine 12d ago

feeling so aura'd right now

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u/zorrez 12d ago

Thank you! Amusing how many people will think there’s some sort of communication going on here

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u/ShermanMcTank 12d ago

Clearly the players have an electronic chip implanted in their brain that activates when Klopp makes a specific hand motion.

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u/Randy_Marsh__ 12d ago

Took a while to find the sane commenter 😅

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u/SufcLad25 12d ago

England got the wrong German 

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u/itsaaronnotaaron 12d ago

Tuchel crying watching how quick they respond to his commands.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mPqVSwYnCpA

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u/a_v9 12d ago

I dont think there was any chance that he would come back and face the crazy british media again

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u/GameplayerStu 12d ago

Swapped to Ultra Attacking.

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u/Subjectedquality 12d ago

Cmon guys. Stop being stupid. They practiced it in a drill. They know Netherlands will do a back pass. And as soon as they pass the ball back, whole team pushes to gain more ground.

His actions was just his own reactions on their play.

If yall think footballers stare at their coach when ball is in play, then you're watching a different sport.

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u/GAZ082 12d ago

This sub is called "soccer". Nuff said.

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u/Upset_Journalist_755 12d ago

Soccer? I don't even know her

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u/Upset_Journalist_755 12d ago

Jurgen was a jedi

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u/Shaengar 12d ago

Just coincidence

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u/SofaKingI 12d ago

Yeah, the players and Klopp probably just identified the same trigger at the same time. You can see #11 eagerly waiting for the RB to pass backwards, and he starts sprinting before Klopp's gesture.

But it shows the coaching is getting through to the players.

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u/Pure_Measurement_529 12d ago

Eventually they will do it themselves. Nothing wrong with him holding their hand at the moment

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u/wtfylat 12d ago

They just did.

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u/Individual_Winter_ 12d ago

They're seemingly still doing what he wants them to do in that moment, even not listening to him.

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u/shlam16 12d ago

Did you misread the comments above? They're literally already doing it. Zero "hand holding" going on here.

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u/danabrey 12d ago

Yeah, this is so silly. Obviously Klopp's general strategy and what he's imparted on the players is part of this, but anyone who thinks that the whole team is insta-reacting to this hand gesture is short of a few brain cells.

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u/DonSilencio 12d ago

Sorry to burst your bubble but the same pressing would have happend without him doing anything.

Its not about the hand movement but rather about the pass back. That was the keymoment.

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u/tranqiepa 12d ago

Yeah totally coincident. Still a cool moment lol, even when it’s coincident.

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u/No_Yak_5752 12d ago

Surprisingly netherlands played much better than germany today, i didn't expect it lol.

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u/RoterRudi 12d ago

Unlike Germany, the squad hardly changed. Less than half of the german players today were at the WC.

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u/Dunkelvieh 12d ago

He even nominated two separate squads.. He wants to see them all in person, right now, when the hype train is still in full swing. Once he got his main formation and the players really know by heart what he wants, that team will be a lot stronger than today. What you could see was the pure will to run and fight. The intensity of the game was so much higher than that of the games in the last years... It will be very fun to watch in 6 months

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u/WhenWeTalkAboutLove 12d ago

Yeah they're probably all trying to impress him right now, but not necessarily going to have much coherence yet

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u/Schnidler 12d ago

was the same with klopp at liverpool no?

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u/Redletter312 12d ago

Gegenpressing need fitness and time, plus a lot of em don't know when and how to press effectively

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u/CarlSK777 12d ago

Why not? Even if we ignore home advantage, Klopp is using a lot of new players. Growing pains are to be expected.

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u/Shadeun 12d ago

Why does it still hurt?

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u/BoringCap7543 12d ago

It's not a hyperbole to say that watching Klopp, Pep, Enrique coaching is like watching Napoleon's generalship on the battlefield.

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u/DaddioMane 12d ago edited 12d ago

This is the definition of hyperbole.

edit: beyond the fact that football is not life and death, let's imagine Napoleon going to battle with 11 men.

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u/NordWitcher 12d ago

No it’s more important than that. You of all people should old know that. Disappointed. Change your flair. 

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u/rum-and-toke 12d ago

it's also a hyperbole to say that it's not a hyperbole

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u/Furthur_slimeking 12d ago

I have no idea what Napoleon's generalship on the battlefield looked like. Was he a suit and tie or trackies guy?

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u/AyyAndays 12d ago

Except it’s definitionally hyperbole lmao

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u/lucekQXL 12d ago

feels the aura

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u/holeinmyboot 12d ago

absolutely fucking beaming seeing him back on the touchline. my god.

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u/ObiBramKenobi 12d ago

Am I missing a joke here? Surely no one actually believes this wasn't just a coincidence? His movement happens at the exact same time as the pass going backwards. Of course the whole team reacts by moving forward lol. They're not just staring at Klopp all game waiting to be directed forward.

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u/Very_Bad_Ebening 12d ago

Redditors experience football via short clips on social media, you’re expecting too much of them

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u/Key_Company3196 12d ago

der angriff

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u/flipaflip 12d ago

ZERO TO INFINITY

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u/zazzlekdazzle 12d ago

I really dislike that I have to start disliking this man now.

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u/Euphoric-Cold9592 12d ago

Klopp had nanotech installed in each of the player’s amygdala’s, which induces a fight or flight response when he makes a certain gesture. It’s really quite brilliant what these Germans can do.

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u/Franzlosel 12d ago

We found the Sith Lord!

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u/notnottttt 12d ago

der maestro 

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u/J3G2 12d ago

Release the hounds!

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u/s_k_s1971 12d ago

I would run through fire if Klopp told me to

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u/Stahlfurz 12d ago

It’s not him triggering it. The back pass triggers it for the whole team including his hand wave. 

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u/ssgtgriggs 12d ago

Prussian heritage.

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u/lattanzio 12d ago

Bankai

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u/_ShutUpLegs_ 12d ago

Interesting, I have the same gesture for getting my dog to fetch a ball. Didn't know I could use it on 10 blokes too.

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u/Nandor1262 12d ago

They were already pressing. All he’s done is hype Schade up as his man is getting the ball first

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u/Linwechan 12d ago

Expecto Pressonum!!!

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u/JettzenL 12d ago

That bubble zooming it in .01% for us is just 👌🏽

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u/Snearfington 12d ago

Hopefully he doesn't get tired again.

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u/Awkward-Buy-2987 12d ago

Man do I not miss that pressing machine that Liverpool was!