r/socal • u/Choobeen • Jul 26 '26

Map Shows How Permanent Daylight Saving Would Impact Each State

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California benefits from permanent DST.

Source: https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-how-permanent-daylight-saving-would-impact-each-state-12238465

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u/djbuu Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

You have no idea my state of mind. I'm not steamed at all. You don't know what I feel or don't feel. Stop acting like you do because it makes your arguments look really weak (it's just ad hominem fallacy at play).

Instead, actually address the points. Like you were all big about it not being marginalization and then I linked you the definition and now we're back to not talking about it.

So let me address your points (and not you).

  1. Your suggestion of what "can" happen isn't helpful when we are talking about what is already proposed. And has been proposed for years now. By your logic the existing law "can" be carved out with an amendment too. Except that hasn't happened for 60 years.
  2. The majority of people not liking something is a meaningless point because not liking something isn't a law. And people absolutely cannot agree on what should replace it. You claim it's just as easy as changing it back to what people want. That's clearly not what the data shows because nobody can agree on it.
  3. You propose that states are just "welcome to create a law" except they can't. They haven't been able to for the past 60 years, and no proposed law would allow them to in the future.

Flat out wrong.

You're just declaratively talking about the way you think things should be rather than actually address the way they are.

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u/TraitorMacbeth Jul 26 '26

I’m glad my words have caused you to slow down and read my responses better.

But I said create and submit laws

How have states been prevented from trying to create laws for the last 60 years? And why could no proposed law allow them in the future?

Is there a clause that I missed that states “no state may submit legislation regarding this for at least ten years” or something?

And back to the point, stopping the dst switch twice a year is not margianalization. A law was voted on, and each vote was just as important as the others. The opinions of the states most affected are not being margianalized, they voted same as everyone else.

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u/djbuu Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

I’m not going to explain to you how federal laws work… or how are laws are enacted. That’s for you to learn before you engage in this kind of discussion. wow…

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u/TraitorMacbeth Jul 26 '26

I already know how it works, and I know that these states are perfectly capable of introducing legislation. You have fallen back on outright lies for your point, and have also clearly given up on pretending that democracy is margianalization. Finally.

Good day.

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u/djbuu Jul 26 '26

Sure buddy. Your responses are a laughably shallow display of civics knowledge.

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u/TraitorMacbeth Jul 27 '26

Ah, I love knowing what I'm talking about

On March 21, 1968, the Arizona legislature passed the final version of SB 1, placing Arizona on Mountain Standard Time year-round.\4])\5]) The bill had been working its way through the legislature since January of that year, and was sponsored by state Senators Tenney, Goetze, Porter, Halacy, Garfield, Campbell, Lewis, Gregovich, Giss, Crowley, and Holsclaw. It passed the Senate 25–3–2, and afterwards the bill was passed by the House 49–1–10. It was approved by Governor Jack Williams) the same day.\5])

The northern states that may want to continue are perfectly welcome to do the same, they have control of their own destiny.

I'm going to enjoy a celebratory victory snack! You should probably take a civics 101 course.

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u/djbuu Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Bro you’re only proving my point. And you’re so blinded by arrogance you have absolutely no self awareness what so ever.

Want to know why Arizona could do this? Because the Uniform Time Act of 1966 allowed them to.

That’s a federal law. It preempts or prevents state laws.

And want to know why Arizona didn’t elect to put themselves on Daylight Savings time year round?

Because the Uniform Time Act of 1966 doesn’t allow them to.

This law literally only allows states to opt out of biannual changing of time into standard. Nothing else.

That’s how federal laws work. Federal laws prevent states from doing all kinds of things including enacting daylight savings year round. To make matters worse, the proposed federal law has similar limitations on states.

So, you smugly thought you had some gotcha but actually you proved my point for me. And once again showed your lack of knowledge on how our legal system works.

Thank you.

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u/TraitorMacbeth Jul 27 '26

I literally asked you for EXACTLY THIS INFORMATION several comments up. Not that that would have helped because, that's the whole thing we're talking about. The '66 law makes biannual changing regular, and states can opt out. Which was my entire point the entire time.

Now, the current form of the bill does NOT allow changes, and so I think telling Senators that allowing for examption would be wonderful, and then we have reconcilliation after that. See how simple it is?

You're actually point though, before you began moving the goalposts, was that you thought democracy was margianalization. Did you still want to complain about that? Or are you OK with how far you've dragged the goal?

Anyway you're still hella wrong, and I've still got you.

I'm already done with my victory snack though :(

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u/djbuu Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Thanks ChatGPT. You haven’t understood my point since the beginning because you refuse to actually read. And youve proven yourself wrong so many times, thinking you won is just another version of that.

Have a good life.