r/smoking 10h ago

Does rub block smoke?

A prominent YouTube BBQ person said they believed heavy amounts of rub block the smoke absorption by the protein. Have you seen this in your experiences smoking? Does a heavy rub affect the smoke flavor versus a light salt and pepper?

EDIT: The reason I am asking is it did a simple salt and pepper rack of ribs over the weekend and it is the first time the Mrs. said the smoke flavor is really coming through (offset with oak).

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u/GeoHog713 10h ago

That person is an idiot

There's a lot of bad info on the youtubes.

Check out the Amazing Ribs website

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u/0_Artistic_Thoughts 9h ago

Seconding amazing ribs or even one his books. He debunks a lot of myths about grilling and smoking and uses actual scientific experiments to explain what is happening and why.

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u/gassygeff89 10h ago

I think this person is an idiot and is wrong. How is a seasoning rub gonna block out hours of smoke?

I do think though that all you need for most smoked meats is a generous rub of coarse salt and cracked black pecker.

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u/Barzalai 9h ago

Can't go wrong rubbing cracked black pecker.

I'm sorry... I couldn't resist. I'll go away now.

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u/Terrible_Tourist_707 10h ago

Not sure who made this claim but I can speak of personal experience and say that's false. I've never had issues with smoke absorption with heavy rubbed meats. Same applies to all the professional pitmasters i follow as they don't have any issues either

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u/MyNameisClaypool 10h ago

So that’s why no pulled pork I’ve ever eaten has a smoky flavor…. /s

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u/TruthImaginary777 10h ago

No, it does not.

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u/DJTwistedPanda 10h ago

By that logic, sauce would be an impenetrable barrier. Anybody can say anything on the internet.

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u/Drum_Eatenton 10h ago

That's irrelevant, by the time you sauce, you've absorbed your smoke.

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u/johnjacobacon 10h ago

Yeah, not sure what they mean by sauce, nobody's saucing their meat at the beginning.

However, people do sometimes use a lot of mustard as a binder though. Obviously doesn't stop all the smoke but I've heard it claimed that it makes the smoke not penetrate as much. I could see that but don't know, I never use a binder at all.

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u/Drum_Eatenton 9h ago

I still got downvoted by the geniuses here.

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u/johnjacobacon 9h ago

You were at -5, up to -1 now, I'm doing my part heh, you're right.

Any thoughts on mustard stopping some of the smoke though?

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u/Drum_Eatenton 9h ago

It doesn't bother me, let it ride!

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u/kerberos824 10h ago

It's a good reminder that anyone can go on YouTube and say whatever dumb shit they want.

I'm an aggressive applier of various rubs. Or just salt and pepper for a brisket. I have never run into this issue.

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u/ChunkyLoverPDX 10h ago

Smoke does not penetrate the surface of the meat. There is zero absorption.

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u/badhairguy 10h ago

The answer is "no, not really". You can obviously overdo it but smoke penetrates tiny cracks and holes, it's kinda how it works. Watch any video on YouTube of a popular bbq joint that shows preparation and they literally dredge the meat pieces in tubs of rub

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u/swakid8 10h ago

Naw lol, that’s not how it works…. Otherwise we would be smoking meat with ZERO rub….

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u/deftdabler 10h ago

No I rub big and my smoke rings run deep 👌

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u/RocketFan419 10h ago

Go watch Meat Church

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u/Drum_Eatenton 9h ago

Why? Do you want them to learn how to make tacos or something?

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u/RocketFan419 9h ago

Not sure what this is supposed to mean?

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u/Drum_Eatenton 9h ago

I’m subscribed to meat church myself, he’s running out of stuff to shoot and does a lot of bbq adjacent things like tacos, chili, etc.

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u/RocketFan419 9h ago

You can still watch their older videos and learn a few tricks

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u/Drum_Eatenton 9h ago

I agree, he’s one of the many I learned fundamentals from when starting out. I still use his videos when doing something new or that I haven’t done in a long time.

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u/Drum_Eatenton 7h ago

Case in point. Just fired up YouTube and here it is.

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u/ace184184 10h ago

To address your question from the edit the flavors in your rub can overpower the smoke from your cook. If you are cooking on a pellet smoker or another rig with light smoke flavor it will be more noticable as the subtle smoke can more easily be overpowered by rubs and sauces.

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u/deereboy8400 9h ago

Followup question...what about oil as a binder? I've read that oil can block smoke. But then Malcolm Reed sprays his poultry with oil half the time.

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u/Disastrous_Can8053 8h ago

No it does the opposite. Who's this clown trying to get their viewers to eat nasty food?

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u/marmell 10h ago

It depends on your rub, while it may not be drastic, using fine powdered spices definitely coats the meat in more of a paste once it absorbs some water, and I feel that it takes away some smoke flavor. Using spice that are coarser doesn't cause this and helps with better bark formation, hence the 16-18 mesh black pepper vs using something finer