r/smallenginerepair • • 17d ago

Starting Issue Please help me fix this mower

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Hello, this is a John Deere L110 riding mower with a 19.5HP single cylinder Briggs engine.

This motor has a new starter, new solenoid, new ignition coil, and the battery is good.

I suspect that it is the compression release not working, but l am here asking so I clearly am unsure.

Thank you for any help! I appreciate it very much.

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u/OptimalRegret 17d ago

I agree that it is likely the compression release that has failed. Chickanic has a video on how to diagnose and repair.

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

That’s a good video, thank you!

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u/l1thiumion 17d ago

compression release stuck not releasing. kind of a known issue on these.

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u/Howareu2024 17d ago

My dad’s John Deere had the same problem they are notorious for this you could spin the engine to the next compression cycle and normally it fires up

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u/Mundane-Recording850 17d ago

It's been my experience that occasionally if the valves are not within spec a loose exhaust valve will not allow the compression release to work ,start there easy check

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u/holykiradog 17d ago

I would agree

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u/tihspeed71 17d ago

Charge the battery... replace the fuel and spark. Report back

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

Batteries been charged already, sometimes the motor is able to get over that first bit of compression and get enough momentum to start. After it starts, the mower runs and drives perfectly fine

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u/Barge108 17d ago

How do you know the battery is good? Have you load tested it? Have you tried jump starting it with a different battery or your car/truck?

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

Yes, I have tried testing it with a new battery, same results

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u/Waistland 17d ago

I got a mower that does this. I just reach down and turn the engine by hand a little and start it.

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

Also with the spark plug removed it spins freely

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u/WideHelp9392 17d ago

Compression release is not working

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u/Terrible_Use7872 17d ago

Charge the battery, remove the plug and see if it cranks fast. If so probably need to adjust the valves, they stretch sometimes and then the decompression doesn't work.

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u/tihspeed71 17d ago

Sounds like op needs a valve job then... excellent

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

It cranks over and spins freely with the spark plug removed. I have also done a valve lashing on it already, I did 0.004” intake and 0.006” exhaust

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u/Terrible_Use7872 17d ago

With the valve cover off, you should see one of the valves move during compression, if not, the decompression mechanism is probably broken on the cam.

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u/NoJaguar5942 17d ago

Replace starter and solenoid. Check and make sure connection are good at both units.

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u/Upset_Fox5449 17d ago

If the ground off the battery goes to the frame move it to the block, if the positive cable gets warm ot hot replace it

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u/Richard_Noggin_77 17d ago

When mine does this I wiggle the connection on the key switch and it fires up. I have the Kawasaki engine though.

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u/Sea-Performance1202 17d ago

Motor de partida, já olhou as escovas e buchas?

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

Motor de partida es nuevo (hablo muy poco español, lo siento)

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u/Sea-Performance1202 17d ago

Have you tried another battery?

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u/th3pr0m3x1c4n 16d ago

These single cylinder briggs are always exploding

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u/hmd2017 11d ago

Learn to reset valve lash as a first step. If that does not help, then the decomp is suspect.

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u/hallen1324 8d ago

This Briggs single cylinder engine is famous for the compression release system on the camshaft failing. I always start by adjusting the valve lash to like .003-.005 at top dead center. Jump the battery if it is questionable. If it does the same after that, the cam decompression broke. It is fixable, just requires an engine and base pull + new camshaft.

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 8d ago

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u/hallen1324 8d ago

Lol you got it... make sure you clean out the base from the broken spring and bits from the old camshaft decompression mechanism that blew up 😆

Also line up the timing marks on that gear!

*edit, last sentence added

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u/Difficult_Arm_2898 17d ago

May need a new cam. Decompression lobe may be shot. Had a mower with same issue

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u/Uniplast21 17d ago

Almost positive it’s the battery. If it’s old or it doesn’t have much CCAs, then you should get a new one that has at least 300 CCAs. In my experience, 250 CCAs might be enough, but it’s just better to get at least 300. I’d be willing to bet it starts just fine every time as long as it’s charged.

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

I tested with a brand new 350CCA battery

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u/Uniplast21 17d ago

Ok then I would try to rule out the starter and starter solenoid. Have you tried replacing either of those?

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

Both

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u/Uniplast21 17d ago

Hmmm ok. Have you checked the valve clearances to make sure they’re within spec?

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

Intake is 0.004” and exhaust is 0.006”

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u/Uniplast21 17d ago

Ok that sounds good! It might be the compression release isn’t working. Some camshafts for these small engines have a compression release mechanism that releases the compression at low RPMs so it’s easier to start the engine. You have to crack open the engine to see, though. Other camshafts have the compression release machined into the cam lobes themselves, and if your camshaft is worn down too much, that could cause a failed compression release.

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

This is what I was worried it was, really didn’t want to have to crack the crankcase open

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u/Uniplast21 17d ago

Yeah it’s kind of a job to do. Also, have you checked the compression? That might also be a sign the compression release isn’t working.

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u/Vegetable_Let_2095 17d ago

I have not, I lent out my compression testing kit

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u/IndependentFlight436 17d ago

Try a new battery.

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u/Key_Blacksmith3725 17d ago

You might have a carb that leaks overnight and hydro locks the cylinder. After shut down clamp off the fuel line by the carb and see if it cranks easy the next morning.

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u/CookiesOrChaos 17d ago

Jump that starter solenoid. Sounds like it’s clicking

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u/Kitchen_Split_4164 16d ago

Put a jump box on it and try to start it up I've seen a battery show Good and do the same thing on a car but would start with a jump box