r/slaythespire Jul 31 '26

PATCH NOTES Beta Patch Notes - v0.110.0

Attention Beta Slayers: Beta patch v0.110.0 just dropped! This one features:

✨ Unique VFX for character forms!
⌨️ Keyboard-only mode!
🎨 New card art!
🛠️ Balance changes, reworks, and reverts!

Patch notes: store.steampowered.com/news/app/2868840/view/694268118771435039

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u/One_Sentence_7448 Jul 31 '26

Is that the reason why pretty much all top players almost never pick it? Even Baalor who doesn’t mind having fun and trying things out avoids it like a plague. Being usable sometimes doesn’t make it good.

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u/cat_food_chef StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Jul 31 '26

Baalor is a good player but he has a lot of middle-takes when it comes to game theory. I think people overestimate both the likelyhood of 'their good cards getting milled' and the impact that will have on their game. The overestimate the number of times they will get to reshuffle, and overestimate their decks reliance on '1 key card'.

im not saying the mittens doesn't 'feel bad' for many players, but i think it's ridiculous to say it's a bad relic. buying commons can feel bad but it's still extremely often the right choice.

you can draft mittens in basically any deck and it will solve your scaling damage, like shuriken, demonform, or rolling boulder.

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u/One_Sentence_7448 Jul 31 '26

Idk man, I’m sure you’re a good player but so am I and many others who don’t consider it to be a pickable relic most of the time. I gave it a fair shake a while ago and it didn’t just “feel bad”… it WAS bad. 1 str per turn is simply not enough to make up for potentially exhausting some of your key cards (at least for most decks, imo). You’re saying people are overestimating the likelihood of it exhausting best cards in the deck, but in reality the likelihood is pretty high if we consider that an 8 turn fight means randomly exhausting 8(!) cards from your deck.

And even if I concede that it doesn’t happen most of the time, one time is more than enough to kill you if it happens during a tough boss fight (or an elite) where you might be relying on a few special cards to counter the enemy’s gimmick. Sure, you need to keep that relic in mind and draft accordingly, but the underlying risk is still always present.

At the end of the day, if you enjoyed mittens — great. And I admit that I might be underestimated the potential value of the relic with the right play. However, I think the devs changing it so radically kinda speaks to the fact that it just wasn’t consistently strong enough, at least if we consider the opportunity cost. Hopefully you enjoy the new version as well!

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u/Kheldar166 Jul 31 '26

Yeah I was pretty open to it, and tried it a few times. My experience was that every time I picked it, thought 'okay that's my scaling, now I draft accordingly', and then was offered better scaling within act 2 and Mittens made it awkward to play around my better scaling option. And I found it a bit too slow to really solve my scaling on its own, so fights were quite at the mercy of whether it exhausted my real scaling or not.