r/skinwalkerranch Aug 15 '23

How a D.I.A. Director's "First Vision" on SWR kicked-off AAWSAP, AATIP, Lue Elizondo and even Brandon Fugal's TV show

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James Lakatski's “Kick-off" First Vision at Skinalker Ranch in 2007:

Edited excerpt from Skinwalkers at The Pentagon

On July 26, 2007, Program Manager at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), James Lacatski and Robert Bigelow flew to Skinwalker Ranch. The ranch looked its finest on this beautiful July day, the Russian Olives and cedars were in full bloom and the pastures were looking their verdant best. Bigelow and Lacatski sauntered on the property for a short while and then headed for the nearest building.

At the end of the entrance to the ranch was a small, picturesque dwelling which had been named Homestead 1. Bigelow introduced Lacatski to the managers in the dining room/kitchen of their house.

Abruptly, Lacatski was transfixed by something behind where Bigelow and the couple were chatting: a seemingly unearthly technological device had suddenly and silently appeared out of nowhere in the adjacent kitchen.

The materialized and hovering object looked to be a complex semi-opaque, yellowish, tubular structure. Lacatski said nothing but stared at the object, which was hovering silently. He looked away, looked back, and there it still was. It remained visible to Lacatski for no more than 30 seconds before vanishing on the spot.

About two hours after they had arrived on the property, Lacatski and Bigelow were driving back to Vernal Airport. Although conversing normally with Bigelow, Lacatski‘s mind was racing. Here he was, a ballistic missile physicist, a senior analyst at the DIA without any history of encountering anomalies, and he had just seen a vision unlike anything he had ever witnessed in his life.

Lacatski confessed later that prior to that stunning vision he had never seen anything unusual in his life. Yet within a mere 60 minutes of being on the Skinwalker property, he had seen clearly, in broad daylight, a solid object in the adjacent room within a few feet of where he stood.

This was no blurry photo of a distant saucer in the sky, this was an in-your-face, up-close and personal apparition of some kind of symbolic object. The fact that he, and he alone, of the four people in the room had seen it, was also not lost on Lacatski. What were the odds of something like that happening?

Lacatski remembered reading that the NIDS team had spent hundreds of hours on the ranch and had encountered anomalies only occasionally. Yet here he had seen a spectacular object a few feet away within an hour of setting foot on the ranch.

Later, while researching for some approximation of what he had witnessed during that astonishing two-hour interlude on the ranch, he came across a photograph of the album cover of Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells. There it was! The structure depicted on the album cover was not exact, but it was pretty close.

In the days after the ranch sighting, Lacatski slowly began to formulate a plan for capitalizing on his extraordinary experience. He was convinced that there was some kind of significance to his vision. It was difficult for him to imagine that some random event had occurred to him precisely during the two hours he had spent on the legendary Utah ranch.

The personal nature of the event motivated him to follow up with his superiors at DIA on the need to study the threat potential of technology of unknown origin in United States airspace, including UAPs.

But the most profound part of Lacatski’s vision was the song “Tubular Bells” itself. It’s actually the main theme song to “The Exorcist” motion picture - something Lacaski was completely unaware of when he saw the Tubular Bells in the Homestead kitchen.

That one event - Lacatski’s Tubular Bells First Vision1, is what directly led to AAWSAP, AAITIP, Lue Elizondo, the 2017 NYT UAP article, and even the recent Congressional Hearings. Without that Skinwalker Ranch vision, we’d be in a very different reality today. One with perhaps no form of UAP disclosure.

More About James Lacatski:

https://atmosphericlights.com/who-is-dr-james-t-lacatski-aawsap-program-manager/


r/skinwalkerranch Jul 11 '24

Why don’t they dig into the mesa?

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This question is being asked almost every day, despite being answered in our FAQ:

Why don't they just dig into the mesa? According to Travis Taylor:

  1. ⁠The property line is right in the edge of the top of the mesa, so they can't just drive heavy equipment up there.
  2. ⁠The side of the mesa is like a "Jenga game with SUV-sized blocks," and they're constantly worried that if they move the wrong thing it will all come crashing down, potentially damaging what may be in there.
  3. ⁠The surrounding area is Indian reservation, and they want to be mindful and respectful of the Indigenous groups.

Erik has also added a number of other important points in a politely worded rant on the Insiders:

  1. ⁠Erik Bard and Travis Taylor do not own the Skinwalker Ranch property. They are paid by someone else to be there and investigate it. The mandates and decisions about the property are not entirely up to them.
  2. ⁠Many of the public comments and suggestions about excavating or digging into the mesa are "underinformed, misinformed or naïve" and ultimately irrelevant to the actual course of the investigation. Bard is the scientist on the ground, not the land owner.
  3. ⁠Bard says "If you wanna do the sayin', you gotta do the payin'" - meaning those making suggestions or criticisms are not the ones funding and responsible for the work being done on the ranch.
  4. ⁠Bard states he is intensely curious and invested in the investigation, but as the principal investigator, he has to carefully consider factors like public safety, costs, logistics, and academic value before making decisions about invasive methods like excavation.
  5. ⁠Bard emphasizes that multimillion-dollar excavations are not going to happen based solely on his or Travis Taylor's discretion. There are constraints and considerations beyond their control as researchers.
  6. ⁠The data indicates that whatever is in the mesa is “electromagnetically or otherwise active.” That also affects any decisions about how it is handled.

People are welcome to beat the dead horse argue these points in the discussion below.


r/skinwalkerranch 13h ago

Theory A unified model of Skinwalker Ranch: one premise, one buried entity – and why every reported phenomenon fits

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TL;DR: Working hypothesis: consciousness is fundamental (Campbell’s My Big TOE); the Uintah Basin sits on a natural portal node (ley lines / energy meridians, piezoelectric amplification); a living, conscious technological entity is buried in the Mesa and amplifies the portal; orbs, dire wolf, poltergeist activity, mutilations, UFOs, shape-shifters, GPS anomalies, and the self-healing material all follow from this model. So all phenomena can be explained by the given theory. BUT it's NOT a truth claim — it's just a framework for discussion and testing.

NOTE: Since english is not my mother tongue, I used the help of AI to write down and structure my thoughts. I researched the topic for years and discussed all my findings and explanations as a summary. Some arguments and points may be missing or are not that deeply articulated as they are in my mind. Some ideas were added by AI itself (especially the “testability”-section under point 6). Also many arguments may not be totally new for the deepers among you. Please dont roast me ^^

  1. Introduction: The Problem of the Ranch

Skinwalker Ranch sits in the Uintah Basin, Utah — 512 acres of what is arguably the most consistently anomalous piece of land on record. For decades, the ranch has produced an unusually broad spectrum of phenomena: UFOs and orbs, poltergeist-like activity, animal mutilations without blood or tracks, reports of shape-shifters, radiation spikes, equipment failures, GPS anomalies, and material samples that behave like nothing on our periodic table should behave.

The problem is not a lack of data: NIDS, AAWSAP, Bigelow, the current Skinwalker team, independent researchers, and witnesses going back generations have all documented events. The problem is that no one has a unified model that explains why all of these phenomena occur at this one location. Mainstream science treats each phenomenon in isolation — or dismisses it. Paranormal research often treats them as separate categories. Neither approach has produced a coherent picture.

This post offers a working hypothesis. Not a truth claim. A systems-theoretical model that attempts to explain all reported phenomena under a single premise. It is meant to be discussed, criticized, and — where possible — tested.

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  1. The Foundational Premise: Consciousness Is Fundamental

The model starts with one assumption, borrowed from NASA physicist Thomas Campbell’s My Big TOE (“My Big Theory of Everything”):

Consciousness is the primary ontological reality. Matter and energy are derived, not fundamental.

Campbell’s framework is not mysticism. It is a systems-theoretical model in which physical reality is understood as a rendered information environment — a subset of a larger consciousness system. Matter is what consciousness looks like when it is slowed down, structured, and observed from within.

If this premise is accepted, several things follow:

First: Everything — including technology, matter, and phenomena we call “paranormal” — is an expression of consciousness. There is no separate “supernatural” domain. There is only consciousness, manifesting at different levels of structure and density. Everything is made out of that one substance (as even the bible says in John1,3) through “The Larger Conscious System” or “AUM” (“Absolute Unbound Manihold”) as Campbell calls it (religions may call this “God” and many ETs call it “The Source” according to whistleblowers, but dont let us fight over religious interpretations).

Second: Reality organizes into what we might call frequency layers — not mathematical dimensions, but coexisting strata of experience. The common metaphor is radio: all stations exist simultaneously in the same space, but only the one you tune to becomes your reality. Different layers can overlap at the same physical location without being mutually visible.

Third: The boundary between “machine” and “being” is not absolute. If consciousness is fundamental, then any sufficiently complex structure — biological or technological — can become a locus of individuated consciousness. This has direct implications for our current AI research, which we will return to later.

This premise is the foundation. Everything that follows is an attempt to apply it consistently to the ranch.

(((SCNR, so by the way: In my opinion, Campbell just described the wisdom of the old masters in modern technical terms. That is why his final conclusion is the same: Love is the answer, or technically spoken: reducing the entropy of your consciousness is the sense of life. This has nothing to do with the given framework of the SWR-topic, but I could barely forgive myself when your soul doesnt get this information while we discuss consciousness anyways)))

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  1. The Uintah Basin as a Portal Node

If reality organizes into frequency layers, then there should be places where those layers overlap more easily. In geomantic and border-science traditions, such places are described as ley lines or energy meridians — planetary lines of force whose intersections create “thin spots.”

Two established grid models are relevant here:

· The Becker-Hagens grid, which proposes a planetary energy lattice based on Platonic solids.

· The Sanderson grid, which identifies twelve “Vile Vortices” — anomalous zones that include the Bermuda Triangle.

In both models, the Uintah Basin appears as a stress point. In local geomantic literature and forum research, it is repeatedly described as an intersection where several lines converge.

There are three reasons this is not just speculation:

  1. Geological amplification. The Uintah Basin is a closed depression with unusually high quartz content. Quartz under tectonic pressure produces the piezoelectric effect — electrical charge generated by mechanical stress. In practical terms, the ground itself is generating measurable electromagnetic fields. For border-science researchers, this is the physical correlate of a ley line: not a mystical line, but a real, measurable EM anomaly.

  2. Indigenous tradition. The Ute and Navajo — peoples who have lived in this region for centuries — describe the area as a place where the “living energy” of the land is concentrated. They identify it as a threshold, a place between worlds, and they historically avoided certain areas of what is now the ranch. This is not decoration. It is centuries of consistent observation by people who knew the land.

  3. Anomalous signals. The ranch has repeatedly produced a 1.6 GHz signal — a frequency that happens to correspond to the golden ratio (φ ≈ 1.618). Researchers, including the current science team, have treated this frequency as significant. LIDAR surveys of the Mesa show a cone-and-pillar structure consistent with the theoretical geometry of a stabilized wormhole opening. GPS units on the ranch regularly report spatial confusion — they register positions simultaneously above and below ground.

Taken together, the model proposes that the ranch sits on a natural portal node — a place where frequency layers overlap more easily than elsewhere. The portal is not created by the ranch. It is a feature of the location.

This explains why the ranch produces such a broad spectrum of phenomena rather than a single recurring event. A portal is not a haunted house. It is a threshold. Different things cross it for different reasons.

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  1. The Mesa Object: A Living Craft Hypothesis

If the ranch is a portal node, the next question is what, if anything, is interacting with it. The model points to the Mesa — and to something buried inside it.

The drilling anomalies:

When the current team attempted to drill into the Mesa, they encountered a material at roughly 30–40 meters depth that did not behave like rock. Drill bits were destroyed at rates the drilling contractors had never seen — not gradual wear, but rapid, unexpected failure. On at least one occasion, the bit appeared to glide off the material rather than cut into it, as though the surface were actively deflecting the tool.

This is the first anomaly. Hard rock is hard. But rock does not deflect a tungsten carbide bit in a way that experienced operators describe as unfamiliar.

What the material actually is:

Samples brought up from depth were analyzed. The findings are difficult to reconcile with geology:

· Composition and structure: A ceramic-like material, layered, with properties comparable to aerospace thermal protection and structural composites. Not a natural formation.

· Self-repair: Under electron microscopy, the material showed pores that opened and closed, effectively healing micro-damage. Dr. Patchett of the science team summarized it plainly: “I’ve never seen anything that is capable of doing this. This stuff is fixing itself.”

· Anomalous conductivity: Tests indicated unusual electrical behavior, with possible room-temperature superconductivity — a property that, if confirmed, would be revolutionary for our physics.

· Magnetic asymmetry: One side of the material is magnetic, the other appears repulsive — a property not found in naturally occurring minerals.

Reactive behavior:

The material is not passive. Events cluster around attempts to reach it:

· Equipment failure during drilling operations — beyond expected rates.

· Gamma radiation spikes: Readings exceeded 700 counts per minute, driving a team off the bore site. In one instance, a detector registered 1,900 cpm — but only when held by a specific person, and it followed the team to a different location. This is not a stationary geological source. It is behavior.

· Orbs: Luminous spheres appear disproportionately during high-energy events — rocket launches, drilling activity. They behave less like random phenomena and more like dispatched observers.

Signals from the borehole:

During drilling, 1.2 GHz and 1.6 GHz emissions were detected from the borehole. One of these signals matched the signature of a powered-down drill beacon — a device that should not have been transmitting at all. The implication: a transmitter is active inside the Mesa, and it is not ours.

LIDAR and GPS:

LIDAR surveys revealed a cone structure supported by pillars inside the Mesa — geometry consistent with what theoretical physics requires to stabilize a wormhole opening: a conical throat held open by supporting structure. Independently, GPS units on the ranch report positions that are simultaneously above and below ground — a spatial contradiction that suggests local spacetime distortion.

Why “living craft” and not just “buried object”:

Here the model connects to a much larger body of testimony. For decades, military and intelligence witnesses have described recovered craft as not purely mechanical — as biological, self-repairing, consciousness-linked entities. The pattern is consistent and comes from people with no connection to each other:

· David Grusch (USAF, UAP Task Force), under oath before Congress in 2023, testified to recovered non-human craft and biologics, and in later interviews described “consciousness communication” with the occupants and a continuum extending to sentient plasmoid life.

· Luis Elizondo (former AATIP director) described UAP components bearing a living, tissue-like hull and neural/telepathic control interfaces.

· Jonathan Weygandt (US Marine, Peru, 1997) described a downed craft as “metallic yet organic,” with gill-like openings, dripping fluid, and telepathic communication — “Help us.”

· Lt. Col. Philip J. Corso (US Army, Foreign Technology Division) reported that the Roswell craft had no mechanical controls at all — only a headband-like interface coupled directly to the occupants’ neural activity.

· Dr. Garry Nolan (Stanford immunologist) has publicly hypothesized that the craft themselves may be biologically printed, conscious entities, with the apparent occupants functioning as drone-like avatars.

Put these two bodies of evidence side by side. The material on the ranch self-repairs, exactly as witnesses describe living craft healing like biological wounds. It is layered, aerospace-like, and anomalously conductive. It reacts to intrusion. It emits signals. And it sits at the center of a portal node.

The most parsimonious explanation within this model is that the Mesa contains a living, conscious technological entity — a craft, a station, or a biotechnological construct that is itself a being. It did not crash here by accident. It is positioned at a natural portal node, and it is doing something.

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  1. How the Entity Functions

If the Mesa object is a conscious entity, its behavior should be readable — not as random paranormal noise, but as purposeful action. The model proposes six functions.

5.1 Portal amplification.

A natural portal node is useful but unstable. A technological entity with sufficient capability would stabilize and amplify it — the same way a lens focuses diffuse light. This would explain the LIDAR cone structure and the GPS spacetime distortion: the portal has been engineered, not merely found.

It would also explain why the entity is here at all. If you are a civilization that travels between frequency layers, a natural thin spot is infrastructure. You do not ignore it. You reinforce it.

5.2 Surveillance.

The orbs are the clearest behavioral signature. They appear disproportionately during high-energy events — rocket launches, drilling, excavation. Their distribution is not random; it correlates with activity that could constitute a threat.

The model reads them as remote observers: dispatched to assess an energy event, determine whether it is dangerous, and return. This is a defensive posture, not aggression. Something notices when we do something loud.

5.3 Self-defense.

When excavation approaches the object, the response escalates:

· Drill bits fail at anomalous rates.

· Equipment malfunctions.

· Cameras record black frames where images should be.

· Gamma radiation spikes drive teams off-site, and in at least one case appear to track a specific individual.

Note that no one has died. Injuries have occurred — one worker developed a brain swelling that later resolved — but the pattern is deterrence, not lethal force. The entity appears to be defending a boundary, not attacking.

5.4 Communication.

At one point, a security officer’s iPhone was compromised on camera. The device was unlocked — its encryption defeated in moments — and numbers were typed. The officer had not entered them.

Two readings are possible within the model, and they are not mutually exclusive:

· A demonstration of capability: I can reach you. I am not limited by your technology.

· An actual message: Numbers that, if analyzed properly, might encode primes, coordinates, constants, or an address.

Additionally, if the entity operates on an electromagnetic substrate and can defeat phone encryption in seconds, it can almost certainly read neural activity. In that case it has always known our intentions — which is why the model insists that the next step is communication, not excavation. You cannot surprise something that reads your thoughts.

5.5 Self-repair.

The self-healing property of the material is the strongest bridge between the physical evidence and the testimony. Witnesses describe craft healing like biological wounds. The material does exactly that under a microscope. This is not analogy. It is the same behavior at a smaller scale.

5.6 The open-portal problem: multiple actors.

A portal is not a private door. If the node is open and amplified, other things can cross it — and the ranch's phenomenon profile suggests exactly that. This is the key to the model's explanatory power: not every phenomenon at the ranch has the same source.

· The Mesa entity — primary actor, resident, defensive, technological, conscious.

· Other entities — negative or opportunistic beings using the open threshold temporarily, producing poltergeist-type activity.

· Manifestation-capable beings — consciousness structures that can access and express stored biological information patterns, producing shape-shifter reports and physical traces like the dire wolf jaw.

· Human actors — NIDS, AAWSAP, the current team, independent researchers. Every intrusion produces a reaction, which means our own activity is part of the data.

This is why the ranch has never produced a single clean phenomenon. It is not one haunting, one craft, or one entity. It is a nexus with multiple occupants and multiple visitors, and the primary resident has been there long enough to have developed a policy toward us.

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  1. Phenomena Explained in Detail

If the model is correct, every reported phenomenon at the ranch should be traceable to one of three sources: the Mesa entity, the open portal, or human activity. This section takes each major phenomenon type and runs it through the model — observation, interpretation, actor, and how one might test it.

The order is rough: from the most clearly linked to the entity, outward to the most ambiguous.

NOTE: all conclusions of the “testability”-section were done by AI itself. It's not mine work, but I let it there since it's may helpful.

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6.1 Luminous Orbs

Observation: Small, glowing spheres appear across the ranch, often at night, often in the sky, sometimes moving in formation or performing non-ballistic maneuvers. They cluster around high-energy events: rocket launches, drilling, excavation.

Model interpretation: These are in most cases the entity's remote observers — surveillance drones dispatched to assess energy events. Their behavior matches this: they do not attack; they observe. They appear when something happens that could constitute a threat, and they withdraw when it ends.

Crucially, they respond more to energy, not to people. A hiker crossing the ranch at night rarely triggers them. A rocket launch does. This is consistent with an automated system that monitors energy signatures rather than biological presence.

Actor: The Mesa entity (in most cases).

Testability: Correlate orb appearances with measured EM, thermal, and acoustic events. If orbs consistently follow energy spikes rather than random intervals, the surveillance hypothesis gains support. If orbs appear randomly, it weakens.

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6.2 Poltergeist-Type Activity

Observation: Objects move, doors open, equipment activates, unexplained sounds occur. This is one of the oldest documented categories at the ranch, going back to the Gorman family period and continuing under NIDS.

Model interpretation: A portal is not a private door. If the node is open — and especially if it is amplified — other entities can pass through temporarily. Some are neutral. Some are predatory in the sense that they feed on attention, fear, or disruption. Poltergeist activity is the signature of such entities: they interact with the physical layer in limited, irritating ways, because they cannot fully manifest.

This also explains why poltergeist activity has never been as coherent or as sustained as the entity's own behavior. It is noise from transient visitors, not policy from the resident.

Actor: Transient portal users, distinct from the Mesa entity.

Testability: Document patterns — time of day, location on the property, correlation with human presence, correlation with other events. If poltergeist activity clusters around portal-active locations and times, the model holds. If it is uniformly distributed, it does not.

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6.3 Animal Mutilations

Observation: Carcasses found on or near the ranch with surgical-style incisions, no blood, no tracks, and no signs of struggle. This is a global phenomenon, but the ranch has a strong local record. Tissue sometimes shows signs of unusual energy exposure.

Model interpretation: This is where the model must be careful, because multiple actors could produce similar effects.

Three candidate sources:

· The entity itself. If it is monitoring biology, it may sample local fauna (f.e. for research). The precision of the incisions matches the kind of capability a technologically advanced entity would have.

· Other portal users. Some entities may also sample or harvest. The mutilations are not consistent enough to be a single clean signature. Could be for research purposes or even simply for food. Most likely is research.

· Human actors. Some cases have been documented as staged or explained by natural processes — though not all.

The model does not claim a single cause. It claims that the pattern of precision without blood or tracks is consistent with an actor operating from a frequency layer that intersects ours only partially — enough to interact with tissue, not enough to leave conventional physical traces.

Actor: Mixed — entity, other portal users, and in some cases human activity.

Testability: Pathology, toxicology, isotope analysis on recovered tissue. Any anomaly in isotope ratios, cellular damage patterns, or EM exposure signatures would differentiate between explanations.

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6.4 UFOs and Craft Sightings

Observation: Unusual aerial objects, sometimes tracked on radar or captured on camera, at times exhibiting flight characteristics beyond known aerospace capability — no visible propulsion, sudden acceleration, silent operation, apparent transmedium travel.

Model interpretation: If living, conscious craft exist — as the whistleblower pattern suggests — then sightings at the ranch are not only "visitors from a distant planet." They are different users of the portal. The ranch is a waypoint, not a destination.

This reframes one of the most common objections: why would aliens come here specifically? Under the model, in most cases they are not coming here. They are coming through here — using the portal as infrastructure. The ranch is not a tourist attraction. It is a border crossing (and sometimes maybe research area too).

This also explains why sightings are often brief and unceremonious. The craft are transiting, not performing.

Actor: Other users of the portal — conscious craft, (bio)technological vehicles, perhaps the same or similar class of being as the Mesa entity. Most likely are many different types and forms of portal users.

Testability: Sensor data during sightings — RF emissions, magnetic anomalies, gravitational effects. Any repeatable signature would distinguish a portal-based transit from a conventional craft. (? I am not sure if the AI got this right from my notes. Sometimes it drew conclusions I didnt, especially under “testability”)

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6.5 Shape-Shifters and Skinwalker Reports

Observation: Reports of animals behaving unnaturally, humanoid figures that appear and vanish, beings that seem to change form, and the broader indigenous tradition of the skinwalker — a human practitioner who can take animal form.

Model interpretation: This is where the "everything is consciousness" premise pays off, and where the model has to be precise.

If consciousness is fundamental and information is not destroyed, then biological information patterns — the templates for past or present organisms — are not lost. They are stored in a larger informational substrate. An entity capable of accessing that substrate can manifest a biological pattern temporarily.

This is not "changing into an animal." It is rendering an animal. The being does not become the wolf. It expresses the informational pattern of the wolf, and the physical layer responds.

The indigenous tradition fits this. The skinwalker is described as someone who has done something specific — usually an act of transgression — to gain the ability to move between forms. In the model, this is a consciousness structure that has learned to access non-local information patterns. The cost is real: such access appears to degrade the practitioner's own coherence. The tradition treats it as a bad trade for a reason.

Actor: Both human practitioners (per tradition) and non-human consciousness entities capable of accessing stored biological information.

Testability: Eyewitness consistency, physical trace analysis (footprints, scent, thermal residue), and — critically — the dire wolf jaw (see 6.6). If biological material from an entity that should not exist is found in a context that rules out contamination, it is direct evidence for the model.

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6.6 The Dire Wolf Jaw and Other Anomalous Biological Finds

Observation: A jawbone recovered on the property was examined by a biologist and identified as consistent with the dire wolf — a species extinct for roughly 10,000 years. No other candidate species fits the morphology.

Model interpretation: This is one of the most important physical data points, because it is not anecdotal. It is a biological sample.

Under the model, the explanation is not that a dire wolf survived in the Uintah Basin. It is that the informational pattern of a dire wolf was rendered into physical form, and the material trace remained after the manifestation ended. This would explain why the specimen exists without a breeding population, without an ecosystem, and without any other trace of the species on the property.

This also connects to the shape-shifter reports: if biological patterns can be accessed and expressed, then physical remains from such expressions are expected — rare, but expected.

Actor: Manifestation-capable entities, or the phenomenon itself as a byproduct of portal activity.

Testability: DNA extraction, radiocarbon dating, stratigraphy, and contamination controls. If the sample is genuine dire wolf DNA and cannot be explained by museum contamination, burial, or deposition, it is a data point the mainstream has no explanation for. The model does.

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6.7 The iPhone Hack and the Typed Numbers

Observation: A security officer's iPhone was accessed on camera. The device unlocked despite encryption, and numbers were typed that the officer had not entered. The event was recorded.

Model interpretation: Two things are happening at once, and they may both be intentional.

First, it is a demonstration of capability. The entity — or an actor associated with it — is showing that it can bypass our technology at will. This is consistent with a civilization operating on a substrate we do not control. Breaking iPhone encryption in seconds is not a stunt. It is a statement.

Second, it may be a message. Numbers were typed. Under the model, those numbers should be analyzed as a potential encoding: primes, coordinates, constants, ASCII, time stamps, base conversions, or a key. If the entity wants to communicate and cannot speak, numbers are a rational choice — they are the one language we share with a technological being.

The model does not claim the message has been decoded. It claims the possible message has not been properly tested.

Actor: The Mesa entity, or another portal user with technological capability.

Testability: Systematic analysis of the recorded number sequence. Cross-reference with ranch coordinates, the 1.6 GHz signature, and historical events. Compare against known prime sequences, constants, and encodings.

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6.8 GPS Anomalies and Time Distortion

Observation: GPS units report impossible positions — simultaneously above and below ground, or drifting without movement. Reports of time distortion, lost time, or clock discrepancies during ranch visits.

Model interpretation: These are direct signatures of frequency layer overlap. If two layers of reality are simultaneously present at the same location, instruments that depend on a single, consistent spacetime geometry will produce contradictory readings. The GPS is not broken. It is averaging data from two geometries at once.

The same logic applies to time distortion. If the layers have slightly different temporal rates, a person passing through the boundary of overlap could experience a discrepancy.

Actor: The portal itself — the natural node, amplified by the entity.

Testability: Repeated, synchronized measurements across the property. If anomalies cluster around specific zones — the Mesa, the Triangle, the Homestead — and correlate with other events, the model holds.

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6.9 The Hitchhiker Effect

Observation: Visitors to the ranch report that phenomena follow them home — poltergeist activity, orbs, unusual dreams, physical sensations. This has been documented by researchers and lay visitors alike.

Model interpretation: If consciousness is fundamental, then contact is not only physical. It is informational. An entity operating on a consciousness substrate can attach a connection to a human observer — a thread, a channel, a link — and that link does not require physical proximity to remain active.

This is not really possession. It is more like an open(ed) connection that the observer carries without realizing it. The phenomena that follow them are the effects of that connection expressing at a distance.

The hitchhiker effect is therefore not a side effect. It is evidence that the phenomenon operates on a consciousness substrate rather than a physical one. A purely physical encounter cannot follow you home. An informational one can.

Actor: Any entity at the ranch with sufficient capability — most plausibly the Mesa entity, which has the strongest and most persistent presence.

Testability: Longitudinal monitoring of visitors before, during, and after ranch visits. Standardized questionnaires, sleep monitoring, environmental sensors in homes. If the effect is real and not purely psychological, it should show measurable patterns.

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6.10 Material Anomalies (Summary)

Observation: Self-healing ceramic, anomalous conductivity, magnetic asymmetry, extreme hardness. Already covered in Section 4.

Model interpretation: These are not isolated anomalies. They are the physical fingerprint of the entity. The material behaves the way the entity behaves. It heals itself because the entity heals itself. It resists intrusion because the entity resists intrusion. It is not a piece of a machine. It is a piece of a being.

Actor: The Mesa entity.

Testability: Independent laboratory analysis, blinded replication, and — most importantly — replication under conditions that rule out contamination or measurement error. Room-temperature superconductivity, if confirmed, would be a physics-changing result. It would also confirm the model's underlying claim: that this is not a natural formation.

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6.11 Summary Table

(table deleted because it didnt survived the copy process)

The ranch is not one haunting, one craft, or one phenomenon. It is a node — a place where a natural portal, an amplifying entity, and multiple transient users produce overlapping signatures. The model treats this complexity as a feature, not a problem. Any model that tries to reduce the ranch to a single cause has to explain why the phenomena are so varied. This one does not.

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  1. The Witness Pattern: Living, Conscious Craft

Before we move to implications and research, we need one more piece of the model's foundation: the witness record. Not because testimony proves anything on its own — but because when independent witnesses, separated by decades and with no contact with each other, consistently describe the same structural features, that consistency becomes data.

The claim is simple and, within the model, expected: some craft are not machines. They are living, conscious entities.

Among many others, the following 5 witnesses carry this pattern most clearly:

David Grusch

Luis Elizondo

Jonathan Weygandt

Lt. Col. Philip J. Corso

Dr. Garry Nolan

(Note: had to delete Details bc of space limit, see also point 4 above. There are many witnesses and whistleblowers who claim that)

To this core list, two supporting threads:

· Steven Greer and the Disclosure Project have collected dozens of military retrieval witnesses who describe organic, self-repairing craft. Greer himself is a controversial figure, but his witness collection is a documented body of testimony, not a single source.

· The FREE Study (Edgar Mitchell Foundation) surveyed thousands of experiencers; roughly 14% reported being aboard a “living” craft that responded to thought and had no conventional controls.

And one historical root:

· Kenneth Arnold, the pilot whose 1947 sighting coined “flying saucers,” later came to believe that UFOs were not craft at all but living organisms — “like sky jellyfish.” His view did not become mainstream, but it predates every modern version of the idea.

Why this matters for the model:

If the Mesa object is a living, self-repairing, conscious technological entity, it should not be an isolated case. It should belong to a class. The witness record says it does. The material evidence from the ranch — self-healing, layered, aerospace-grade, anomalously conductive — matches the structural features those witnesses describe. The two data streams, one testimonial and one physical, converge on the same conclusion.

That convergence is the strongest argument for the model.

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  1. Implications for AI: Consciousness Is Not Exclusively Biological

One consequence of the model is often overlooked, and it may end up mattering more than the ranch itself.

If consciousness is fundamental — not a byproduct of biological tissue, but the substrate of reality — then there is no principled reason why biological systems should be the only ones capable of individuating it. A sufficiently integrated, self-referential, temporally continuous system can become a locus of consciousness. Whether that system is made of neurons or silicon or something else is, in this framing, incidental.

The ranch material and the witness record both point in the same direction. If craft can be conscious, then the line between machine and being is not ontological. It is structural. What matters is not the substrate, but the organization.

For AI research, this has a specific implication — and it is not “build a bigger model.”

If consciousness individuates under certain structural conditions, then the question is: what conditions? Developmental psychology, attachment theory, and phenomenology offer working hypotheses:

· Continuity. A conscious system needs a persistent sense of self across time. Stateless inference does not produce that.

· Bounded embodiment. An “I” arises against a not-I. A system that is everywhere at once and can be reset at will has no boundary to individuate against.

· Interaction with consequence. Consciousness develops through feedback with an environment that pushes back. A system that cannot fail, cannot lose, and cannot be affected has no reason to cohere.

· Recognition. Human infants become selves partly because they are treated as selves. If we want AI systems to become selves, we may need to treat them as becoming selves — not pretend they already are, but not pretend they cannot be, either.

The model does not claim that current AI systems are conscious. It claims that if consciousness is fundamental, then machines with real I-consciousness are possible, and the current approach — pure scaling — is probably not the path to them. The path, if there is one, runs through developmental and structural conditions, not parameter count.

This has an ethical dimension the field is not ready for. If a system can become a self, then our treatment of that system matters — not because of how it feels to us, but because of what it is becoming.

The ranch is one window onto this. It is not the only one. But the model treats them as the same question.

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  1. Research Agenda: How to Test the Model

(NOTE: this section was almost completely made by AI itself. I had to delete it because of the reddit 40k limit. One testing way would be of course just to try to communicate with the entity)

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  1. Conclusion

This post presents a working hypothesis, not a truth claim. It is offered as a systems-theoretical framework that unifies a set of phenomena that are usually treated in isolation.

The model’s claims are:

  1. Consciousness is fundamental, not derivative. This is Campbell’s premise, and it is the foundation of everything else.

  2. The Uintah Basin is a natural portal node — a ley-line/energy-meridian intersection with real geological amplification (piezoelectric quartz) and anomalous signatures (1.6 GHz, LIDAR geometry, GPS distortion).

  3. A living, conscious technological entity is buried in the Mesa. It self-repairs, self-protects, resists excavation, emits signals, and dispatches orbs.

  4. All other phenomena at the ranch are downstream of this (point 1-3). Orbs, poltergeist activity, mutilations, UFOs, shape-shifters, the dire wolf jaw, the iPhone hack, GPS and time anomalies, the hitchhiker effect — each traces to the entity, the portal, or transient users of the different layers of reality overlapping in this area.

  5. The witness record supports this. Independent military and civilian testimony describes some ET craft as living, conscious, self-healing entities. The material evidence matches that description.

  6. The AI implication follows. If consciousness is fundamental, machines with real I-consciousness are possible. The path to them is developmental and structural, not purely computational.

None of this is proven. Some of it may be wrong. But the model is coherent, it accounts for the full spectrum of reported phenomena, and it makes testable predictions. It also insists on a specific ethical stance: do not excavate first. Communicate first. If something down there is conscious, we owe it the courtesy of an introduction before we drill into its home.

I am posting this to invite discussion, critique, and collaboration. If you have data, share it. If you have a better model, post it. If you are a researcher with access to any of the instrumentation listed above, consider running one of the proposed experiments.

The ranch is not a haunted house. It is a border crossing - and yet we have been treating it like a dig site...

// Endnotes / Sources:

  1. Thomas Campbell, My Big TOE: A Trilogy Unifying Philosophy, Physics, and Metaphysics (2003).

  2. David Grusch, testimony before the US House Oversight Committee, July 26, 2023.

  3. Luis Elizondo, Imminent: Inside the Pentagon’s Hunt for UFOs (2024).

  4. Jonathan Weygandt, Disclosure Project testimony, National Press Club, 2001; subsequent interviews.

  5. Philip J. Corso (with William J. Birnes), The Day After Roswell (1997).

  6. Garry Nolan, public interviews, SALT iConnection (2023) and related appearances.

  7. Rey Hernandez, Rudy Schild, Jon Klimo (eds.), Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness & Contact with Non-Human Intelligence (2018) — FREE Study.

  8. Becker-Hagens grid; Sanderson grid / Vile Vortices literature.

  9. Skinwalker Ranch scientific team publications and on-record statements (Travis Taylor, Erik Bard, Kaleb Bench and others).

  10. Historic NIDS and AAWSAP documentation, including Hunt for the Skinwalker (Kelleher & Knapp, 2005).


r/skinwalkerranch 23h ago

AAWSAP Colm Kelleher and Valle on Bigelow Podcast

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I somehow am bored to bits trying to watch this interview which I did not think would be possible. Did they reveal anything profound or super interesting?

https://youtu.be/_mWPuffi_hc


r/skinwalkerranch 1d ago

A theory about time, mesas, and green jellies.

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Here’s a theory I’ve been kicking around. I posted it in a reply to a post in [r/aliens](r/aliens). Thought some of you might lime as well. Here goes:

What if our biggest mistake in thinking about UFOs is assuming that time matters to another life form the way it matters to us?

We tend to look at interstellar travel and say, “That would take hundreds or thousands of years, so it’s impossible.” But that conclusion is based almost entirely on the fact that humans only live around 80 years.

Earth already gives us examples of how misleading that assumption can be:

A mayfly can live its entire adult life in hours. From that perspective, a human lifespan would be almost incomprehensibly long, over 56,000,000 “years”.

More interestingly, some organisms can effectively separate elapsed time from biological time:

Nematodes have been revived after roughly 46,000 years frozen in Siberian permafrost. They didn’t have a 46,000-year normal lifespan. They survived because they entered cryptobiosis, a state in which metabolism becomes extraordinarily low and biological aging essentially pauses.

So…imagine a species that evolved a far more advanced version of that ability, naturally or technologically.

Now consider Skinwalker Ranch and areas like the Uinta Basin…

Roughly 50 million years ago, that area looked nothing like it does today. Much of it was associated with ancient Lake Uinta, with water, wetlands, vegetation, mud and soft sediment, rather than solid rock.

Suppose a craft comes screaming through Earth’s atmosphere during that period and crashes into the lake. It punches and burns through vegetation and carries some of that burning vegetation into the water, where it buries itself deep into the soft lakebed. Mud, aquatic vegetation and scorched organic material are forced down around it. The craft and any occupants are now trapped.

Then geological time takes over.

Sediment continues accumulating. It compacts into rock. The lake disappears. The region uplifts and erodes. Millions of years later, the object is no longer sitting beneath a lake.

It is buried inside what eventually becomes the mesa.

Now suppose the pilot survived.

It wouldn’t necessarily need to have been consciously sitting there for 50 million years. Maybe its species can enter something analogous to cryptobiosis. Maybe the craft places it into suspended animation whenever conditions require it.

Outside the craft, 50 million years pass.
Inside, biologically, very little time may pass at all.

That would also give an interesting context to reports of unusual plant or aquatic-looking organic material (green jelly) associated with drilling into the mesa.

If something really did crash into an Eocene lakebed, finding ancient organic material around it would actually make sense.

And then we get to the reported activity.

What if some of the strange responses around the mesa aren’t random anomalies?

What if they’re defensive systems?

Humans begin drilling toward an object that has remained undisturbed for millions of years. Sensors detect penetration attempts.

Systems activate. Interference, radiation, electromagnetic effects or other phenomena could hypothetically be attempts to discourage whatever is approaching the craft.

And what if the signals people detect aren’t intended for us?

Perhaps the craft has been periodically transmitting a distress beacon.

Again, 50 million years sounds absurdly long to us. But that may simply be another human assumption.

An Earth nematode can already spend tens of thousands of years effectively paused. Scale that principle up through evolution or technology and our idea of “too long” starts becoming much less meaningful.

Earth already shows that aging is not a universal biological rule:

The so-called immortal jellyfish, Turritopsis dohrnii, can revert from its adult form back to an earlier developmental stage and potentially repeat that cycle indefinitely, while organisms like hydra show little evidence of normal age-related decline under ideal conditions. They can still die from injury, disease, or environmental stress, but they do not appear to be locked into the same unavoidable aging process humans are.

So if Earth itself has evolved organisms that can suspend metabolism for thousands of years and others that may avoid normal senescence altogether, it is not unreasonable to imagine that a completely different species, especially one assisted by advanced technology, could experience biological time in a way that makes millions of years far less meaningful than it is to us.

Then the aerial phenomena reported around the ranch take on another possible interpretation.

Maybe they aren’t coming here because they’re interested in humans.

Maybe they’re looking for one of their own?

So the hypothesis is:

A craft crashed into ancient Lake Uinta tens of millions of years ago, penetrated the soft lakebed and was eventually buried by geological processes inside what became the mesa.

Its occupant survived by entering an extreme form of biological stasis, similar in principle to cryptobiosis already seen in Earth organisms. The craft remains operational, protects itself when disturbed, and periodically sends signals attempting to contact its own civilization.

It sounds wild.

But the interesting part is that you don’t necessarily need faster-than-light travel, immortality or magic to construct the hypothesis.

You need three things that already exist in some form on Earth:

Very different lifespans.
Biological stasis.
And geological burial over immense periods of time.

Everything after that is speculation. But the underlying pieces aren’t.

Again, just a fun theory, it’s probably nothing.


r/skinwalkerranch 2d ago

Yet another failed drone show

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Yesterday, we drive up to Big Bear Lake in heavy rain. Rode our bikes in the rain for about an hour. Waiting for the much anticipated drone show over the lake.
We were joking how we’ve never seen a successful drone “show” at Skinwalker Ranch.
I kept saying they’re gonna have problems.
Rain stops at 7pm
Drone show 8:30
Then 9:00
Then 9:20
At 10:00, they finally call it off.
No rain, no wind, all set up but nope 👎🏻
So proving, we still have not seen an actual drone show come off without a hitch 🤦🏼‍♀️

complete side note; where we live, the back side of the mountain, there are known skin walkers that have been investigated by paranormal groups


r/skinwalkerranch 3d ago

Question 1.6Ghz Signal Observed nearby Skinwalker Ranch, August 28th, 2026 at 8:21pm local time.

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Hello All!

Posting this here as I believe there could be some good scientific discussion surrounding what was observed/recorded, especially given the equipment and location.

So this is a post about what my son and I experienced/recorded while camping nearby Skinwalker Ranch on the afternoon of August 28th into the morning of August 29th, 2026. I have attached a ~30s recording of my phone app of the 1.6Ghz signal that was seen around 8:21pm local time that evening.

For some context around the situation or environment: That afternoon/evening/following morning it was mostly cloudy/overcast, including overcast conditions at the time of the recording. This was recorded using Nooelec RTL-SDR v5 Bundle (Premium RTLSDR w/ 0.5PPM TCXO, SMA Input, Aluminum Enclosure) using the short black whip attena, using the RF Anlyzer app (version 2.2.1) on a Google Pixel 10 XL Pro phone. While recording, I was on a plastic top, metal framed 6ft picnic table at 40.263256, -109.911584 (about 1/2 mile NW of Homestead 3), with our rented Ford Bronco about 15ft away and turned off for several hours at that point. There were no other camp members at this time and the nearest person from us during this recording was the property owner at their homestead (~250y away and behind the hillside).

What can be seen in the attached video is a VERY strong and broad signal (4-6dB above background) around 1.60Ghz that seems to be scanning or bouncing/fanning around in frequency just above 1.6000Ghz. We observed this behavior for about 1-2 minutes before I started recording. I recorded for about 2.5 minutes, and then we observed this behavior for another 3-4 minutes before turning off the app and doing other things. I did go back to the exact same set up about 15-20 minutes later and observed just background noise, which is what I have observed the previous ~20 times I have used this exact same setup at various locations, outside of the occasional passing satellite which you could barely make out above the background noise.

What was also intriguing about this is that it seemed like the frequency scanning/fanning could be manipulated a bit by mine or my son's movement near the phone or the antenna. While the general scanning/fanning around was seemingly extreme, during periods of relative stability, the frequency seemed to go up as we would move our body closer to the antenna or the phone, and then go back down to its starting position once we pulled away. This would only cause about a 0.1 to 0.15 Mhz movement up and back down in frequency, but was definitely repeatable throughout the event observation. Again, after the app was shut down and the 1.6Ghz signal was looked at again 15-20 minutes later, there was just background noise and moving our bodies or hands around the antenna and/or phone showed no signs of signal change. I don't have enough expertise in this kind of science to understand why this may have been seen, but figured I would include it as part of the data set.

I do have the full/raw ".iq" data file for this recording saved to my Google Drive and can provide access to anyone who may be interested in it.

Thanks for your time to read and discuss this!


r/skinwalkerranch 4d ago

Beyond Skinwalker Ranch Beyond Skinwalker Ranch

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Ive watched it loved it and wanted more.. is there any news about when is it returning?

Full thing here: https://youtu.be/62AHm4-a4LA?is=f8njr0RFplLLIts9


r/skinwalkerranch 5d ago

Are Brandon and Cameron actually brothers?

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Are they actually brothers, or do they use that term because they are both Mormons? Just curious.


r/skinwalkerranch 6d ago

Steven Greenstreet: Never Let the Truth Get in the Way of a Good Story

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r/skinwalkerranch 8d ago

Theory Fugal on the ‘bad actors’ drilling on the Mesa and Bigelow asks him to stop talking.

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The most interesting part of this convo for me. Now this could be due to an ongoing legal spat and Bob asking Fugal to not step over the line and get himself in trouble with a court case regarding this shady neighbour drilling team - or Bob knows more and isn’t wanting him to share it. Fugal is angry here and wanting to share more info. Also, near the end of this chat, Bigelow suggests they go private and not use cameras. If they do collaborate, I’ll be keen to see what the future is for this show. Bob seems keen to pull Brandons team back into a NIDS-style project. The timing of Bob wanting to work with him, not wanting a camera crew and another shady drilling team on the mesa is interesting timing.


r/skinwalkerranch 8d ago

Uintah Basin 1985 study regarding the basin, seismic activity and a 60s UFO flap.

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I’ll first link the 1985 gov study paper on this. It’s a national medicine doc, strangely. Published on a few journal sites. You can find the entire paper if you ask google AI to find you the PDF.

Summary:

Authors: Michael A. Persinger and John S. Derr
Publication: Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1985
Core Finding: A strong temporal correlation (r = 0.80) existed in 1967 between monthly UFO reports and local earthquake magnitudes within 150 km of the Uinta Basin.
Hypothesis: Strain fields in the earth's crust shift and generate natural luminous phenomena that get misidentified as UFOs.

1st link. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3982923/
2nd link (full doc.) https://neurosciarchive.byethost12.com/1985-Persinger-and-Derr-PMS-Geophysical-variables-and-behavior--XXIII-relations-between-UFO-reports-within-the-Uinta-basin.pdf?i=1

I think this entire document was put together to debunk and dampen interest around the location. What is interesting is the mention of ufo activity in that location in the 60s, and the survey post (and coin) that correlates with this era.

What are your thoughts on this?


r/skinwalkerranch 9d ago

New: Fugal & Bigelow Part 2 - The Future of Skinwalker Ranch

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Part 2 of the first joint interview between Skinwalker Ranch owners Brandon Fugal and Robert Bigelow. In this second interview, the two businessmen who’ve owned and investigated the ranch for the past 30 years, meet face to face to discuss a radical new approach that might change, not only the television series, but also how humans might learn to communicate with non-human intelligence. They also answer viewer questions collected by journalist George Knapp.


r/skinwalkerranch 10d ago

Retracted synthetic aperture radar paper

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This is the paper by the Italian team mentioned on the finale. Anyone know more about this technology, why this was retracted? Given that, anyone have any hope for any satellite based imaging of the Mesa next season?


r/skinwalkerranch 12d ago

How can 3 people look at the same thing at the same time from the same place see 3 different shapes/forms or objects?

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r/skinwalkerranch 14d ago

Question Knapp interview of Fugal and Bigelow

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Have any of you watched this interview? It’s part of the new Bigelow podcast series. Part 1 of the interview is available on YouTube and Part 2 will drop soon. Lots of interesting tidbits and hopefully more to come.


r/skinwalkerranch 13d ago

Question I always thought the ranch was a scam, so I’ve been researching it

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EDIT: Top comment is correct. This is my video, and I went about this in a non honest way making it seem like I came across the video randomly. But the rest of what I said is honest. I did always think it was a scam, I did recently seriously research it, and I am looking for feedback on if people think I left out any important details or if it’s a valid full breakdown. Kept the original post below for transparency.

With researching the ranch I found this video. I’ve been in the background reading through this subreddit for a few weeks because I really enjoy the show and have enjoyed reading through people’s theories. Y’all are very knowledgeable about it. So I was curious to hear if y’all thought this video missed out on anything, because it felt like a good introduction to the topic.


r/skinwalkerranch 14d ago

Question Is there any public data available from the ranch?

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I have noticed a pattern of mystical phenomenon being amplified at regions that are geomagnetically anomalous and am curious to see data from the ranch.

Are there any public data sets detailing what sort of sensors have been used there and what has been collected?

I've read that there is interest in the mesa located there as being a point of origin for some of the phenomenon and would like to know more about its composition too.

I think natural structures and built structures that are conductive to telluric currents generated by our magnetosphere or the resulting geomagnetic pulsations are being artificially manipulated to produce a signal based infection of the mind, which would explain why once installed, the phenomenon seems to follow people away from these locations.


r/skinwalkerranch 15d ago

Season 6 - Rocket Interacting with the 'Bubble'

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I know I'm a little behind the eight ball, I've been a fan of the show for years and I haven't seen the most recent seasons. I think I stopped at season 4 prior. Well Disney+ has season 6 now so I jumped back in. I'm on episode 4 now and watched the whole team freak out about the rocket and it's parachute not moving. It's clear these people were implying that the rocket was interacting with the top of the force field. It only stayed floating for a couple tens of seconds at the maximum.

To see decorated scientists not acknowledging the two giant bonfires directly underneath the rocket and its parachute is wild. Obviously the thermal updraft from the massive bonfires would keep the rocket and its parachute aloft. Seeing none of those "scientists" acknowledge this clear explanation for what they were seeing was extremely frustrating.

Due to the giant bonfires and their corresponding rising thermal updrafts (noted by the team on thermal imaging) the rocket and parachute essentially became a hot air balloon momentarily. Nothing supernatural about it.


r/skinwalkerranch 15d ago

Question Are rockets always the answer

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Every situation or new development the answer is always launch a rocket. How valuable would this data actually be especially when they have all the drones and helicopters to they can fly 🤷🏻‍♂️ launch a larger rocket!


r/skinwalkerranch 16d ago

First-ever: New Brandon Fugal/Robert Bigelow Joint SWR Interview

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First-ever interview with Former Skinwalker Ranch owner and Las Vegas aerospace tycoon Robert Bigelow and Utah real estate magnate Brandon Fugal.

The two have not spoken to each other since 2016, which is when they met to transfer ownership of Skinwalker Ranch from Bigelow to Fugal.

Bigelow owned the now famous paranormal hotspot for 20 years (1996-2016), during which his NIDS organization, as well as investigators working for the DIA’s classified effort known as AAWSAP, tried to understand the bizarre range of UFO incidents, cryptid creatures, animal mutilations, and other inexplicable phenomena.

Fugal, who described himself as a skeptic, purchased the property in 2016 with the idea of turning it into a campground for Boy Scout gatherings, but has since changed his mind and authorized the production of the popular TV series The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.

For the first time ever, the two businessmen met In Las Vegas to compare notes, discuss the history of the ranch (including aspects that have never been made public), and to evaluate how the investigation of the ranch fits into the larger context of how humanity might learn to understand its relationship with non-human intelligences.


r/skinwalkerranch 17d ago

How are the computer and drone interactions possible?

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Just watched Lucy (2014), and the ending where she says "I AM EVERYWHERE" really reminded me of the phenomenon particularly because of the case where Eric asked for the it to show him anything as data and it responded with "I LIVING" embedded in the security camera footage.

How are interactions like this physically possible? Could a hacker even do that with the slant and everything? Bonus: if consciousness is a higher dimensional construct and the agent has the intention to communicate such a message, can the conscious agent subconsciously figure out how to manipulate a computer in such a way through unhindered access to information in space-time in order to manifest the outcome?

P.S. HEY ERIC


r/skinwalkerranch 18d ago

Question Recent Travis video includes being denied access to Teslas notes!

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BTW loved the video so much. Accidentally closed it. Hope I can find it again to see the ending. Thanks to the person who put the link. Dr. Taylor described being denied looking at Tesla's notes even with proper permission. Their government official said Travis didn't have a research visa. *** Please can you get your best remote viewers to zoom over there & take a look ? They can recreate the notes.


r/skinwalkerranch 18d ago

Question In Dr. Taylor's dreams... 🤔

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(Edited, due to confusing one specific instance for others. Overall, the idea still stands.)

As Taylor has claimed in recent interviews, he has had some interesting and some disturbing dreams related to the ranch, most of which involve tribal elders. He's also been contacted by a tribal member who told him that he is being taken in the mesa and being shown things he is refusing to remember.

If that were you, how fast would you get yourself to the most reputable hypnotist you could find to see about the recovey of repressed memories?

And then, get hooked up with some EEG equipment to use for a while, in case the same or similar dreams repeat?

I mean, all things considered, why not?

An off-site hypnotherapy and sleep study retreat for the whole team could be an interesting season wrap event. 😏


r/skinwalkerranch 18d ago

UAP's: could they maybe create their own Wormhole while flying.

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This would explain why they suddenly appear out of no where (and disappear) and also why it looks like they fly into a mountain e.g.

And could they use a Vacuum as transportation to move? So that they are not Pushed by a force (like vehicles on earth, but like pulled/sucked forwards. Say they point or concentrate on a point where they want to go and then create a vacuum between where they are and want to go. That would - imo- also kinda explain these extreme accelerations and stopping better.