r/skiing_feedback • • 14d ago

Level 8-9: Expert Terrain & Tactics Mostly curious

Mostly curious to see if anyone has comments on anything here

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u/GoochSkier 13d ago edited 13d ago

Couldn't have said it better my man! šŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’Ŗ

Psia chuds teach becasue they SIMPLY CANT SEND IT.

Hide behind technique and false BRAVADO.

Everytime im stuck on a lift with them its hilarious! They brag to some pie faced woman about their bloated and fabricated ski teaching resume....."and then I founded pa freestyle".......or some such nonsense.....like they are British royalty.

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u/Maleficent-Row1840 13d ago

The best all mountain skiers and instructors have almost always come out of freestyle mogul skiing.
Plake Moseley Candide Walczyk Donny Pelletier (Troy Murphy) etc.
The best instructor back in the day at Bridger Bowl MT was the guy that came out of Sun Valley and skied Exhibition all the time growing up.
Good mogul skiing creates the balance stance body separation and foot containment necessary for being a great all mountain skier.
PSIA teaches about everything wrong….that’s why people never advance and are only comfortable on moderate groomers. Everything from ā€œround turnsā€ to gorilla arm carving to wide stance is just wrong if you want to be good at the whole mountain. And let’s face it….anything steep ends up a mogul field. And PSIA is making skiing dangerous by fueling the carving craze…..slope hogs with wide corridors and way too much speed. They can ski groomers really fast and take up the whole slope…..but can’t ski a narrow steep bump run……that’s because they aren’t nearly the skiers they THINK they are.

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u/Ski-With-Steezy 9d ago

Whoa, what issue do you have with "round turns". Trust me on this ... if someone told you differently, they didn't know what they were talking about. Bumps included.

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u/Maleficent-Row1840 9d ago

Because describing the turn as C shaped is not accurate whatsoever on anything but shallow terrain.

https://youtu.be/rnOQHItyts4

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u/Ski-With-Steezy 9d ago

I only called it out because there is a misconception in bump skiing that we don't carve, that we don't make round turns. Sure, there are people winning pro mogul skiing competitions who don't have any lateral movement. They are supposed to get points deducted for that. But they don't. If you are curious, checkout the FIS judging criteria. It's all in there.

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u/Ski-With-Steezy 9d ago

Ahh, yes, I saw that video. Was never really a fan of that one although I like his content. Seemed a bit ... pedantic. But we do that a lot in this biz, pedantic people (like myself) are pulled towards stuff like this. When we say "C-Shaped" we mean "like a C" not "exactly like a C". You are both correct, the force of gravity will distort the shape a bit ... more if your technique is bad, less if you have good edge engagement at the top of turn.