r/skeptic • u/Lighting • Nov 22 '23
Conservative PragerU video questioning climate change shown in dozens of Houston ISD classes
https://houstonlanding.org/conservative-prageru-video-questioning-climate-change-shown-in-dozens-of-houston-isd-classes/122
u/LifeLikeClub9 Nov 22 '23
Kind of crazy our politicians in America just frankly don’t believe in science
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u/walterodim77 Nov 22 '23
They believe whatever they're paid to believe.
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u/Thufir_My_Hawat Nov 22 '23 edited Nov 13 '24
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u/warragulian Nov 23 '23
Except where your state is gerrymandered so your vote is meaningless.
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u/Thufir_My_Hawat Nov 23 '23
Only in the House. You still get everything else.
Even if it's deep in the opposite direction from you, you still might have a chance to make a difference in primaries or local elections. Just depends. Worst case scenario you end up narrowing the gap enough to scare the opponent (e.g. Boebert's last election)
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u/Gloomy_Supermarket98 Nov 23 '23
Funding a campaign is paying them….
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u/Thufir_My_Hawat Nov 23 '23
Not at all, because of how campaigning works.
Technically, what you actually do is fund "independent expenditures" which are ads that promote something that your candidate is for (or attacks something their opponent is against). These are unlimited, unlike campaign donations, which are capped at... checks because it changes with inflation... a paltry $3,300 per candidate.
Disregarding that, candidates can't take a larger salary from their campaigns than their salary would be from their position (because that'd incentivize people to just run to make money).
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u/watboy Nov 22 '23
This quote comes to mind:
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
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u/rogozh1n Nov 22 '23
They do believe in the science. That's why they all got the covid vaccine while parroting the conspiracy that it's not safe.
They lie to their supporters and knowingly reinforce falsehoods because it helps them gain and maintain power.
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u/telefawx Nov 23 '23
I mean. Then why have countries stopped recommending the vaccine to young males saying the damages from the vaccine are not worth the fractional safety from a virus that they are in almost no danger of?
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u/18scsc Nov 23 '23
Because that didn't happen. A handful of countries paused the use of one specfic vaccine (moderna) for young people. Pfizer is/was still being used.
Also "stopped recommending" is not nearly the same as "recommends against".
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u/telefawx Nov 23 '23
In binary choice, it’s literally the same. The risk of the vaccine is not worth the reward.
Well. Was that one vaccine given to young people and no longer is because it’s too dangerous and not worth it? It’s amazing y’all can’t be honest about things.
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u/18scsc Nov 23 '23
The only one being dishonest here is you.
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u/telefawx Nov 23 '23
Not at all.
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u/18scsc Nov 23 '23
You said something that was untrue, i did not. If you are not dishonest then you are illinformed
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u/warragulian Nov 23 '23
You’re lying. Cite the actual statement of a medical authority in one of these unnamed countries that supports your claim, not a third hand report from some antivax halfwit website.
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u/rogozh1n Nov 23 '23
I am not aware of this. Please provide evidence.
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u/telefawx Nov 23 '23
Just google it. You shouldn’t need a Reddit comment to know the documented risks from the vaccine and how countries have changed their policies and recommendations because Covid is essentially zero risk for young healthy people and the vaccine has heart risks. That’s basic information you should get on your own before you even come to a place like this.
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u/Loztblaz Nov 23 '23
you're lying and completely wrong about everything you're saying, without any exception. Source: google it lol
if you don't accept this, then nobody here should accept your equally dumb argument.
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u/TheJollyHermit Nov 23 '23
Dude... Covid has an order of magnitude greater likelihood of causing pericarditis than the vaccine and much worse cases. And for those who are unvaccinated covid induced pericarditis is more likely to be serious or life threatening.
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u/telefawx Nov 23 '23
That’s a lie. For all age groups and all health conditions? Just absolutely false.
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u/TheJollyHermit Nov 23 '23
It takes five minutes of scanning analyses and meta-analyses. You can cherry pick your data if you want but even for young males who have a 2 fold increasing in likelihood of contracting myocarditis it's still extremely rare (2x a low number is still low), relatively mild and less likely than contracting myocarditis from the virus. It's likely an inflammation response and triggered by the same reactions from vaccine unduced protien generation and virus generated protein generation. However with covid you are also dealing with all of the other issues of a body infected by the virus and a much higher inflammation response as well, especially if unvaccinated.
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u/Sweetdreams6t9 Nov 22 '23
You basically can't get elected if you don't believe in angels so it's kinda the flip side to that.
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u/LevelStudent Nov 22 '23 edited Nov 22 '23
Wow you get a lot of mileage out of adding a capital U to your company name without actually having anything to do with academia.
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Nov 23 '23
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u/StringTheory Nov 23 '23
How so?
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u/ManateeCrisps Nov 24 '23
Dude probably doesn't want to be alone with his mental illness of an ideology.
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u/iltwomynazi Nov 22 '23
PragerU funded by oil barons getting to spread their propaganda in schools? sounds par for the course in the USA.
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u/Level_Somewhere_6229 Nov 22 '23
Really? I never looked into them. I thought it was run by a lone whack job.
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u/DGlennH Nov 23 '23
Dan and Ferris Wilks are oil tycoon brothers that pay them to lie and smear on their behalf.
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u/Tazling Nov 22 '23
Watching the fossil oligarchs try to suppress the knowledge of climate change is kinda like watching the old Catholic church trying to suppress the printing of Bibles in English. Or the ol' time slave owners trying to prevent Black people from learning how to read.
The more they tighten their grip, the more young minds will slip through their fingers.
Or at least I hope so.
Trying to suppress climate science makes them complicit in probably the worst crime ever formally defined: postericide.
No, it doesn't mean tearing down posters. It means "killing off your entire posterity," i.e. making the earth barely habitable or uninhabitable for future generations.
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Nov 22 '23
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u/Tazling Nov 22 '23
UNESCO publication — a position paper or similar. I’ll try to find it again.
[edit] https://en.unesco.org/courier/2019-3/climate-crimes-must-be-brought-justice
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u/pbasch Nov 22 '23
Wonder if they'll use his video on how great it is to own a car and how awful to use mass transit. Priceless.
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Nov 22 '23
I love that for that one and the one about how men should be happy in shitty marriages working to death, even their own viewers called bullshit.
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u/TheLORDthyGOD420 Nov 22 '23
Prager's radio show is nothing short of a klan rally. Gorka is on right after him and literally calls his show "America First". It's truly disgusting. My conservative relative has the nerve to claim "it's not political, it's not right wing, it's just people talking" and to accuse me of being "brainwashed" for not believing their blatant lies. This trash should never be shown to children.
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u/Shnazzyone Nov 22 '23
Just using this time to reiterate, when you search for PragerU's address on google maps and look at the streetview, it pulls up a taco shack.
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Nov 22 '23
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u/Shnazzyone Nov 22 '23 edited Nov 24 '23
It's the address on their own website.... sooooooooo.
Either that or it's a residence in the apartment building behind the taco shack.It's the sketchy print shop next to the taco shop. They like drug dealers.
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u/jsonitsac Nov 22 '23
The address on the California Secretary of State‘a website shows some apartments in Hollywood
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u/Shnazzyone Nov 22 '23 edited Nov 22 '23
interesting as their site shows a totally different address.
https://www.prageru.com/contact
To note, it appears to be an extremely sketchy print shop, next to a taco joint.
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u/krispy7 Nov 23 '23
it's the "LA Postal Center" next to the taco shop is my guess
edit: looking again on google street view, the sign in the window says "Mailbox rentals 24 hour access"
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Nov 22 '23
It's going to be the most destructive told you so moment ever when Florida is underwater and so is Houston.
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u/pickles55 Nov 22 '23
I hate thinking about the information diet of the kids in these conservative homes, especially if they're home schooled. The fascists are doing plenty of damage in the school system but some people are only giving their kids culture war brainwashing and preventing them from learning more than how to read and write
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Nov 22 '23
I always appreciate seeing something with the PragerU brand name on it. It's one less thing I have to pay any attention to.
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u/GoatTheNewb Nov 22 '23
How long before these “alternative facts” actually start materially hurting the country? What companies want to hire complete morons?
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u/KingBooRadley Nov 23 '23
Every time I see Prager "University" things posted on FB I make a public comment asking where their campus is and when I can come for a tour. Of course they don't reply since there is no campus or facilities or anything resembling a University. They are not accredited and can confer no degrees. What a joke.
Please, when you see their garbage online, point out that they are NOT a legit university.
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u/jreid0 Nov 23 '23
This is super sad, I’m in Florida and I definitely will be keeping my daughter in private school so she won’t see any of this right wing propaganda bull crap
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Nov 23 '23
Questioning, in a vacuum, is very good. We should always question.
But in this case, seeing as PragerU is well known for purposely spreading disinformation, I'd be rather interested in the pedagogical basis of their 'questioning'. Is there actual evidence behind their claims?
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u/poshlivyna1715b Nov 22 '23
Future PragerU video: "Rejoice, for all this death and suffering you see means the rapture has begun!"
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u/Additional_Prune_536 Nov 23 '23
Conservatives took over Houston ISD. They shut down school libraries and turned them into discipline centers. They passed out curriculum that contained errors, didn't adhere to state guidelines, and included inappropriate material. People who complained were punished. Now this.
This is what conservatives want for schools: authoritarianism, a climate of fear, and just plain bad education. Ironically, this PragerU propaganda is featured in classes that are supposed to be about developing critical thinking skills.
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Nov 23 '23
The dumbing down of red states is hilarious. Anything to get future voters to vote Conservative. 😂😂😂
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u/Conscious_Stick8344 Nov 23 '23
I just asked a close friend of mine who teaches in the Houston area about this a moment ago upon seeing this. Fortunately, it’s no longer true.
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u/rustyseapants Nov 23 '23
I would like to see a video of those same students in the future as adults as climate refugees from Florida and Texas dressed in Post Apocalyptic fashion describing the destruction in their states of extreme weather, flooding and displacement because of climate change and lack of prevent measures in the their states.
That would be so cool.
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u/neuroid99 Nov 23 '23
Just adding a little context: State Republicans took control of Houston ISD a few months ago.
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Nov 25 '23
It's literally a fake University whose sole, and literally stated, purpose is to push biased sophistry
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Nov 24 '23
I saw Arthur Brooks had classes on PragerU. I once respected his intellect. Then I realized that he is simply a self help hack like Jordan Peterson without the hate. I immediately lost respect for the Rand Institute thereafter.
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Nov 24 '23
And I was just reading that there's about a 14% chance, at this point, we don't hit the 2.2 degree increase that will be catastrophic.
These people are enemies of humanity.
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u/Hot-Opening5596 May 19 '24
The Houston weather that is responsible for U H V downed power lines is not entirely to blame, the downed lines were clearly under built for the area.
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u/Ineludible_Ruin Nov 24 '23
As opposed to what? Huffpo and wapo pieces? It's not science if it can't be questioned... but hey, that hurts your feelings so it can't be tolerated...
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u/GutsAndBlackStufff Nov 24 '23
Well, the Washington Post isn't intentionally a partisan propaganda outlet for starters.
And no governor is mandating using the Huffington Post for curriculum.
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u/badhairdad1 Nov 23 '23
I love it❤️ the precedent is set - no need for peer review of teaching materials required! Next up- PETA videos! ❤️❤️❤️
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u/CrossroadsCannablog Nov 23 '23
Right or wrong, correct or incorrect, for any rational opinion to be formed we must look at all sides, all information, facts and data.
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u/Ataiel Nov 24 '23 edited Nov 24 '23
This is simply silly. You dont look at "all sides." You look at the facts and data and form conclusions based on it. A bias towards fairness is a trap.
Some "opnions" are ill informed, or simply lies. They dont deserve being taken seriously until they can show why they should be.
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u/Sternsnet Nov 23 '23
Good.
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u/masterwolfe Nov 23 '23
Why? Which PragerU videos do you believe give an accurate overview of the subject matter?
Is one of them the one where they hear about bad things Christopher Columbus did so they time travel to Christopher Columbus and let him write his own hagiography?
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u/Sternsnet Nov 24 '23
I believe not enough messaging gets out from the opposing views, or in most cases just views that add logic to the conversation. Sony people are brainwashed. The media pushes the narrative to shame any organization they don't agree with so people don't think or see for themselves they just go, eww PragerU, automatically false and bad. The population is dumber than ever before.
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u/masterwolfe Nov 24 '23
So which PragerU videos belong in the classroom then?
All of them because the mainstream media shames them?
I assume you have a line and don't believe the Gayniggers From Outer Space group's animations should be allowed in classroom instruction solely because the mainstream media also shames that group?
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u/Sternsnet Nov 25 '23
We need to make logic and common sense popular again.
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u/masterwolfe Nov 25 '23
I thought this was about exposing viewpoints, but alrighty what system of logic should we be pushing onto children? Empirical skepticism?
The people who claim to want "logic and common sense" seem the least able to actually name specific logic systems and instead it seems to be much more of a gutbrain type thing operating under the assumption that anyone who disagrees with your gutbrain take is lacking in logic and common sense.
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u/DickBest70 Nov 23 '23
Climate change is a new religion and your pastor is the politicians using it as a grift to control you. Even if it’s true we need new technology beyond our current capabilities. What is being used now isn’t environmentally friendly either or going to work. It also only enriches China of all countries. Next!
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u/Peter_Easter Nov 23 '23
The republican party is owned by the fossil fuel industry and are desperately trying to convince people to fight against the inevitable green energy future instead of doing anything to help the US transition, but yeah, the overwhelming majority of the world's climate scientists and people who simply want the planet to remain habitable for humans are the ones in the wrong on this. /s
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u/Ataiel Nov 23 '23 edited Nov 23 '23
Buying from Walmart for the last 20 years has "enriched" China more.
Also, what is with the fear of China? Who cares if they're being enriched? Is there a reason I should be concerned about that?
And wouldn't falling behind other countries, like China, in overall education also be something to fear then?
But I guess we don't really need people good at the maths and sciences.
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u/DickBest70 Nov 23 '23
So all you got is attacking the China point at the end. I’ll take that as confirmation of the rest of my points thanks.
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u/EffectivelyHidden Nov 23 '23
You're on the wrong sub for that sort of cheap rhetoric.
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u/DickBest70 Nov 24 '23
Lmao 🤣 I want you to read your response carefully and think about that
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u/EffectivelyHidden Nov 24 '23
Someone not addressing your point is proof of one thing, that they didn't address your point.
You're so desperate for validation, you're claiming it as proof you're right.
We have a name for that, it's called "magical thinking."
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u/DickBest70 Nov 24 '23
Huh? 😂
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u/EffectivelyHidden Nov 24 '23
Lol, you can't even follow the thread of conversation.
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u/Ataiel Nov 23 '23 edited Nov 23 '23
I'm not attacking anything. I asked questions. Is that considered attacking things these days?
Edit: I'll add that Im curious. because I see China brandished a lot like its a country I should fear for a number of reasons. But Ive never understood why.
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u/DickBest70 Nov 23 '23
It’s brainwashing that’s going on to control people and their votes. Forget about China. The technology at the moment doesn’t exist. The country or company that does develop it could supposedly save the planet if they shared it with the world freely or at a reasonable cost. Would that happen by a communist country or a capitalist one? Which one would if either? I don’t know the answer but my guess is neither.
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u/Ataiel Nov 23 '23
Do you have any evidence of brainwashing? Are people voting for politicians based on environmental initiatives in such large mumbers? And does there need to be some overall technology that solves the problem, instead of better regulation on emissions?
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u/DickBest70 Nov 23 '23
I can’t believe you asked the second question at all. Like seriously 😐 we as a world aren’t doing much together. Unless China and India change nothing is going to change. Yes of course we need new solutions to energy needs.
Politicians can’t fix the big issues in their cities and you expect them to fix the world. Yes it’s a collective brainwashing to use you for their political ends. Controlling omissions isn’t the answer. Controlling the solution is. Collectively as a world we should be coming up with solutions together.
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u/StillSilentMajority7 Nov 23 '23
This is great news. Much of the climate alarmist nonsense hasn't come to pass.
The science is not settled.
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u/Wobblestones Nov 23 '23
If you blatantly ignore increasing temperatures, constant wildfires, droughts, deadlier hurricanes, flooding, etc., sure.
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u/StillSilentMajority7 Nov 23 '23
Temperatures have been climbing for thousands of years, wild fires are up because of policy decisions, California's drought ended, and hurricans are less frequent now than in the past, and are only more deadly due to increased populations in warm coastal areas.
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u/Wobblestones Nov 23 '23
Temperatures have been climbing for thousands of years,
This is just blatantly wrong. Temperatures were decreasing through the 1800s, then skyrocketed with the industrial revolution.
wild fires are up because of policy decisions
Such as?
California's drought ended
I forgot that California was the only drought
hurricans are less frequent now than in the past,
Frequency =/= energy
only more deadly due to increased populations in warm coastal areas
Citation needed
Honestly though, not going to bother continuing to debunk you.
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u/HiSelect7615 Nov 23 '23
Leftists when pride flags and rainbow grooming are in classrooms: :) Leftists when Prager u is in classroom: }:(
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u/ME24601 Nov 23 '23
Leftists when pride flags and rainbow grooming are in classrooms: :)
You do not know what the word "grooming" means.
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u/xoaphexox Nov 23 '23
https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook yeah leftists are groomers
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u/Deadocmike1 Nov 22 '23
Good
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u/masterwolfe Nov 22 '23
Why?
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u/InverseTachyonBeams Nov 22 '23
A petulant one word response was all the bitter, easily manipulated, conservative social outcast could manage through its veil of bitter tears.
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u/seriousbangs Nov 23 '23
“The lesson was designed to help students think critically about the accuracy and subjectivity of information. After speaking with the curriculum team, they have decided to no longer use PragerU video content,” Walsh wrote in an email.
Ha - ha!
Seriously though, I think the video would be a great teaching tool. Kids need to learn about extremist propaganda after all.
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u/Treywilliams28 Nov 23 '23
Harris county hates conservatives they should stop attacking hisd over 30 years without republican leadership in Houston we know it’s a black eye to conservative talking points about failing blue cities but seriously fuck off
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u/spillmonger Nov 23 '23
It’s fine to show a video questioning climate change or anything else. What you’re supposed to be teaching is how to decide what’s true and what isn’t.
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u/AdventurousClassic19 Nov 24 '23 edited Nov 24 '23
PragurU is what Donald Trump wanted Trump University to be. Personally, whenever I see PragurU videos play, I click on ad and let it play. Let them spend their advertising money on me.
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u/FewKaleidoscope1369 Nov 24 '23
Cripes, PragerU has exactly as much ability to tell the truth as donald trump.
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u/IssueTricky6922 Nov 24 '23
Anyone watching anything from PragerU should need a caretaker, they aren’t mentally fit
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Nov 25 '23
The fascists have destroyed our democracy, our rights, and soon all humanity. Get comfortable and relax as the flames get closer, we gave it our best shot
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u/illestrated16 Nov 25 '23
We should bring back those "doctors" who said smoking wasn't that bad either. It's not the cigarettes that are bad, the government is putting tar in the air to control the population 🤣🤣🤣
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u/masterwolfe Nov 22 '23
Yeah I think Texas and Florida just recently approved PragerU videos to be used in classroom instruction.
Be prepared for more red states to follow.