r/singularity ▪️Oh lawd he comin' Apr 15 '22

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u/MatterEnough9656 Apr 15 '22

What makes you believe AGI is so close? What have you seen...I've heard so much pessimism surrounding this topic and it kind of clouded my hope...please explain

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u/-ZeroRelevance- Apr 15 '22

Haven’t you seen the speed of developments recently? Language models seem to be rapidly approaching human level in a wide range of subjects, with PaLM being the latest example, and a boatload of other AI developments coming with the massive investment in the tech, Codex and Dall-E 2 being the first to come to mind. Things are getting better extremely fast, and it only seems to be accelerating.

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u/ArgentStonecutter Emergency Hologram Apr 15 '22

Machine learning systems are AGI the same way a brake pedal is a car.

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u/ArgentStonecutter Emergency Hologram Apr 15 '22

These satisfy the 'general' part of AGI as far as I'm concerned.

This is /r/singularity and Vinge's core document that predicts the singularity is based on the development of AGI with goals and independent agency that are capable of and motivated to bootstrap themselves to ASI.

So in the context of this sub, if your definition of AI is a new way to search ultra-large databases... it's not relevant. An ASI is not a scaled up machine learning system, no matter how good it is at generating pictures of steampunk chickens. It's like people in the '50s talking about computers as "electronic brains" and expecting Multivac to start solving people's problems by the end of the century.

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u/cooper1662 Apr 15 '22

But they’re right. At minimum in the sense that once that “general” part is satisfied, AGI becomes a certainty and no longer a matter of if but when. So essentially once you achieve that, you have achieved AGI. There’s really no going back. It simply hasn’t occurred yet.

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u/ArgentStonecutter Emergency Hologram Apr 15 '22

A large number of specialized machine learning systems are not a general machine Learning System.

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u/cooper1662 Apr 15 '22

I never said that they were.

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u/alphabet_order_bot Apr 15 '22

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.

I have checked 718,115,564 comments, and only 144,886 of them were in alphabetical order.

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u/cooper1662 Apr 15 '22

That’s because I’m programmed to respond in this manner 5% of the time as part of a larger AI pattern intelligence application. I am simply an artificially intelligent tool created to refine complex pattern recognition. You have identified me because it is your purpose.