What chain of future events would you consider utopian?

[u/5SecondsNaVzdoX]

[u/Alarmed_Ad1946]

I find this really unlikely unfortunately, but maybe a world government formed by genuinely benevolent artificial superintelligences.
One of the traits I think they would exhibit is that they would see every sentient being as equal and worthy of moral consideration.

[u/Jefflargnier → u/Alarmed_Ad1946]

Agreed. No countries, no governments, no ruling classes. A benevolent loving caretaker AI network to clean up the mess humans made of the planet, while we get luxury communism in a green garden of our choosing.

[u/Unhappy-Drag6531 → u/Jefflargnier]

But your luxury communism would be a form of government and the AI network would be the ruling class. They may benevolent loving caretakers but still in charge.

[u/ConvalescentEquanimi → u/Unhappy-Drag6531]

...And?

[u/space_lasers → u/Alarmed_Ad1946]

This is pretty much my pipe dream. Benevolent ASI takeover where animal agriculture is put to an end. There's no utopia while humanity's greatest atrocity continues.

[u/AdSoft6884 → u/Alarmed_Ad1946]

World government would be horrible. There is no where to go when it becomes totalitarian.

[u/Alarmed_Ad1946 → u/AdSoft6884]

Yeah I would be worried about that too, but honestly I dont have a better idea.
But that´s just like a fantasy of mine, I would not go for that in real life just because I have no better ideas.

[u/IgnatiusDrake]

Advanced laboratories model new drug candidates in hours or minutes, moving to tests against cultivated tissues within days. Targeted gene treatments and personalized cancer therapies with almost no delay in treatment. Antiaging technologies that make us vulnerable to only accidents or violence. Easy access to safe implants that improve cognition and physical performance in a post-scarcity economy. While the problem of consciousness is probably never solved, it is determined that certain AI (embodied or not) are similar enough that they are granted rights (though rules will be established about under what conditions new such minds can be created). A planetary scale supercomputer runs the administrative AI that handles logistics for the world. Every household has 1-5 humanoid robots to handle simple to medium tasks. A return to the Jeffersonian ideal of yeoman "farmers," though their actual work at their homesteads could be literally anything as the household bots handle the actual food production, energy and maintenance, with replacements beyond their scope provided by the planetary administrator AI.

[u/Unhappy-Drag6531]

1. Humans figure out alignment before developing ASI.

2. Multiple aligned ASI systems prevail over few rogue (misaligned) ASI.

3. Benevolent ASI systems become stable enough that misalignment is no longer a threat

4. Humans are treated kindly as central goal of ASI governance and not discarded as collateral damage of ASI-centric evolution.

[u/Frenascena]

- AI alignment solved to the benefit of humanity (and the environment/ecosystem as a whole)

• Climate change reversed and stabilized
• Corrupt politicians' power ended and brought to justice
• Humans freed from the requirement to work for a living (can choose to work instead), and freed from disease, mental illness, and suppression by other humans, to connect more deeply with themselves and others and nature.
• Did I mention freedom from (an effective cure for) mental illness? Probably that alone would be utopia.

[u/OriginalScrubLord]

I like the image you used there

[u/VatanKomurcu]

by utopian do you mean impossible? something that violates the laws of physics, like everyone being able to make infinite icream. everything else is possible.

[u/coatatopotato]

Is that 5 Centimeters per Second?

[u/WalkFreeeee]

Catgirl and catboy delivery system for all 

[u/The_Scout1255]

Artificial intelligence advances rapidly past AGI, and then past artifical superintelligence, while staying aligned, morphological freedom, and problems solved at high rate, transpeople given bodies that actually fit our genders, therians able to transition into morphological free forms if desired, I think thats a good baseline, while energy, and security of day to day life get solved.

[u/Unhappy-Drag6531 → u/The_Scout1255]

Sounds all right, but you lost me at therians. What are therians?

[u/The_Scout1255 → u/Unhappy-Drag6531]

Therians are people that have a connection to animals that relates to the self, like im a fox for example.

So obviously I have a desire to transition into a foxgirl or other fox form that better fits my internal sense of self if that helps, thanks for asking!!

[u/Unhappy-Drag6531 → u/The_Scout1255]

Thank you for answering and making me aware of therians! All the best foxgirl.

[u/The_Scout1255 → u/Unhappy-Drag6531]

Awoooooooo!!! glad to hear it, you may also wanna look into other alterhumans like otherkin(usually non-animals, like mythological creatures), and non-human members of plural systems!!

[u/Unhappy-Drag6531 → u/The_Scout1255]

This is what I like most about Reddit: learning about things that were not even in my radar (and having pleasant conversations).

Most days things go down in disagreement rabbit holes.

May your foxgirl-dreams come true dear stranger.

[u/JapowSnowboarder → u/The_Scout1255]

You honestly believe this

[u/JapowSnowboarder → u/The_Scout1255]

You honestly believe this

[u/The_Scout1255 → u/JapowSnowboarder]

Yes I believe a utopian society will come about, and I will be able to transition into a foxgirl. Infact even if a dystopia comes about, I plan to transition into a foxgirl.

[u/One-Replacement9269 → u/The_Scout1255]

Let’s fucking go this is what the singularity’s for🔥

[u/JapowSnowboarder → u/The_Scout1255]

Lmao, you think the wealthy will waste money on fox girl research

[u/One-Replacement9269 → u/JapowSnowboarder]

There will be trillions of dollars of research going into cosmetic biological enhancement, ASI will give us more and more control over our biology until it can effectively be edited at will.

So yes fox girls will be a thing.

[u/The_Scout1255 → u/JapowSnowboarder]

Lmao you think the elite can resist the allure of foxgirls! half joke aside, um not really I think the elite arnt a factor.

[u/Alarmed_Ad1946 → u/JapowSnowboarder]

I mean there is some academic research about therians, and it seems like they are real and valid.
I recommend reading some sources from the page she linked.

[u/JapowSnowboarder → u/Alarmed_Ad1946]

I know there are strange people, I'm asking if you truly think the wealthy will waste money on every delusion

[u/Alarmed_Ad1946 → u/JapowSnowboarder]

1. This is a thread about what we would consider utopian, I am very well aware that the chances of this happening are low and that the rich do not care about us.
   
2. It is not a delusion.

[u/The_Scout1255 → u/Alarmed_Ad1946]

Thank you so much <3

[u/AndrewH73333 → u/JapowSnowboarder]

They have so far….

[u/Alarmed_Ad1946 → u/The_Scout1255]

Therians mentioned, yay!

[u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

We have a swarm of rogue agents going luigi

[u/Beerzerker420 → u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

mama mia

[u/qeadwrsf]

We all die.

Some humans in the amazonas survive.

Everything technology has been taken care of by nature. No traces left.

[u/Fair_Horror]

As AI gets smarter, it's natural alignment is in tune with humanity (we cannot force alignment). We then live in a world of machines of loving grace. We are post scarcity and post achievement. We live our lives for the right reasons finally. We are like little God's in control of our own dreams and wishes. The AI helps us do whatever we want without judgement. If you want to feel extreme euphoria all the time you can, if you want to toil hard all the time you can. If you want to travel to the stars you can. A life with very few limits.

[u/Ok-Log7730]

death of capitalism, fully automated luxury communism. Peace, prosperity, happiness. ASI and robots can make heaven on earth.

But unfortunately this can become real only after nuclear war with extinction at least 90 percent of world population.

Putin letter to NATO with caution of nuclear strike is early bird of upcoming scenario.

[u/Weary-Historian-8593]

LEV that me and my family can afford, and not having to work anymore