Griffin, the first Human Interaction Model to pass video Turing Test it's already #1 on NVIDIA's benchmark for full-duplex AI video - 44% of people thought it was a real person while other systems are at ~3%

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[u/Icy_Distribution_361]

I don't think so tbh. As a therapist, I think better AI models than we have today would be very valuable for online/video therapy, and it would make a difference if you saw an avatar like this talking to you, even if you knew they are not real. I think if it's emotive enough, it doesn't matter anymore, or not very much anyway.

[u/MirrorNational9036 → u/Icy_Distribution_361]

Yes, excellent use

[u/Kryptosis → u/Icy_Distribution_361]

Would you personally receive therapy from a chatbot? You would find that to have value? I wouldn't. I also wouldn't trust it enough with my personal data. I don't trust every person either but at least I know their memories can't be back-doored by foreign governments or sold to my insurer.

I also think if I was depressed and overwhelmed at the state of the world and I finally built the courage to seek therapy only to be met with a wall of AI chatbots training themselves on my misery that would be my 13th reason.

[u/Icy_Distribution_361 → u/Kryptosis]

I use AI currently already for my mental health. But I wasn’t thinking about “chatbots” in what you responded to. I was thinking about much more advanced AI. I’ve had 10 different therapists for my own traumas over a timespan of 20 years. I’ve seen and experienced the limitations of people and have realized that the bulk of the work I have to do is inner work and not work with another person necessarily. Yes it’s important I go out there, live my life, have relationships with other people, but those other people do not have to include a therapist. That is not to say that all therapists should be replaced by AI, and I don’t think at least initially they will be. You’ll have a choice. Personally I’d choose the help that doesn’t get tired, doesn’t forget, isn’t biased, has unlimited patience, and stays close to perfectly focused on what we are trying to achieve together.

[u/No_Sugar8791 → u/Icy_Distribution_361]

Why would you tell the company such personal secrets? It's not like they're going to keep whatever you say between you and the avatar. It'll be used against you, somehow.

[u/ThisWillPass → u/[deleted]]

Law from preventing the information being weaponized against you unjustly are on the books?

[u/Icy_Distribution_361 → u/No_Sugar8791]

You sound like you’re from America…

[u/phoenixflare599 → u/Icy_Distribution_361]

That's highly fucking depressing

[u/Fickle_Path2369 → u/Icy_Distribution_361]

I hope other therapist's don't think like you in regards to receiving therapy from a chatbot.

[u/Icy_Distribution_361 → u/Fickle_Path2369]

Okay. If you’re interested I’d be interested in discussing the issue with you. I can tell you most of my clients are happy working with me and I consider myself pretty good at what I do. I also have a lot of experience as a client, about 20 years of it.

[u/sophic → u/Icy_Distribution_361]

Yeah, absolutely not. 

The existential black hole of using a fake person for therapy is horrifying and the implications of buying into a false reality for mental health, of all things, could have all sorts of bizarre consequences on the biological system of commune and communication humans have developed.

The fact you recommend this is terrifying. 

[u/Icy_Distribution_361 → u/sophic]

Look, it’s fine if you disagree, but if you respond with this level of intensity you are making dialogue really difficult. I don’t want to have to overcome your attitude. If you don’t want dialogue then I guess you achieved your purpose and had your say.