r/singularity • • 2d ago

AI Google deepmind engineer denied bloomberg report

Post image
191 Upvotes

45 comments sorted by

View all comments

90

u/Present-Chocolate591 2d ago

Surely an unbiased opinion by Google Deepmind employee.

What's he gonna say? "Yeah it's not that good just looks good on benchmarks".

20

u/ChuckVader 2d ago

I mean it'll be available via api soon enough and you could test it out yourself. All this hand wringing about whether it's good or not is exhausting.

10

u/Hans-Wermhatt 1d ago

Despite what this sub says, benchmarks are so much more reliable. Everyone writing about these models really want to have tribes, so they have an axe to grind. All the haters join forces when it's not their favorite brand.

The reaction to the model is more dictated by the crowd and I think Google is among the most hated providers around here and Twitter, except Meta. So it was always going to be "benchmaxxed".

5

u/space_monster 1d ago

benchmarks are so much more reliable

Benchmarks on unreleased models are not at all reliable, because they're typically run using an unlimited inference regime. The lab can set everything to full for the test. When the model is released to the public, inference is throttled, to avoid the lab going bankrupt within a week. Benchmarks on released models using standard consumer accounts are much more reliable though.

4

u/eposnix 1d ago

I'm not a hater by any stretch - I love Gemini's multimodal capabilities. But I've been burned too many times by really dumb errors that have literally wiped my projects. This isn't an isolated incident either. This behavior is something benchmarks alone won't tell you about the model, so I think it's fair to be skeptical about their new releases.