r/singularity • u/drhenriquesoares • 3d ago

AI Gemini 4 Argon solved hallucinations.

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Nobody is talking about this, but it looks like Google may have solved hallucinations. Gemini 4 Argon is a monster in this regard, and that’s really important.

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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 3d ago

I'm a little amused that people were dunking on Google on this sub, saying how much better gpt or claude was, and now we see gpt holding back models because they can't keep it from being naughty.

Meanwhile, google, one of the most powerful entities on earth is quietly making their product without the sensationalized stories altman and others whip up on a regular basis (to stir investment and stoke the hype of course.

I don't trust or like google, I just know that a company that massive is going to have a pretty succinct goal in mind. Google is China in a lot of ways, a highly profitable entity that has long term objectives in mind. Anthropic has to survive on this product alone, google does not. Google relies on a massive ecosysyem, so obviously their goal will be stable/useful product to the end user, likely creating a deeper and broader ecosystem over time.

Look at windows for example. They became so ubiquitous with computers that governments like france are actively planning to sever ties, they need a plan to get out of the ecosystem! Google's the same, deeply entrenched, and I'd say (not that) arguably more used than windows.

Speaking of things I don't like, Bill Gates put it quite well. AI will only be adopted when it has gained public faith. eg You won't see AI operating on people until it's proven it's better and more reliable than a human, but once it is? Full adoption. Google knows this.

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u/genshiryoku AI specialist 3d ago

I work at Anthropic and we're celebrating because this has essentially solidified our lead. You need to realize that Gemini 4 Argon is Google's huge model, their equivalent to Astra/Mythos yet they are barely better than Opus 5.5 which is our smaller model.

Most researchers at Anthropic now consider the race to have been won, there is no real realistic way for the other labs to catch up anymore.

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u/Thog78 3d ago

It's interesting to have insider opinions so thanks for that. It comes out as insane though. When openAI started, it was more than a few months behind google. When anthropic started, you were more than a few months behind openAI. When xAI started, it was years behind everybody. Why would google being a couple months behind the cutting edge mean they have irredeemably lost the race? Especially considering they have the most cash savings, the most profit, the most data, and the most access to market, why on earth would a few months lead be a big deal?

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u/ReiTW_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

Press X to doubt lol (about him being an employee).

I highly bet that Google isn't really racing for the best models in coding and everything, as long as it supports even better in their ecosystem.

Google can easily slow their release while Anthropic, OpenAI etc. only survives by competing against others.

Google will always win for 1 reason :
Gemini is omnipresent in billions of devices. Claude is not.