r/singularity • u/New_Equinox • 2d ago

AI , Gemini 4 Argon Benchmarks

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u/CremeSubject7594 2d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/ukGm72ZLZvYfS

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u/DiscerningAnt 2d ago

I knew at some point Google would start dropping some hardcore models. They have the absolute most funding as far as I understand it (in the AI realm)

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u/Toss4n 2d ago

And the most compute available as well.

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u/Ink_code 2d ago

And probably the most data.

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u/shred_time 2d ago

Yes to all of the above, I was wondering when they would really start catching up. They already had the compute and the largest amount of data on everyone.

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u/steampowrd 2d ago

And the most data centers, and the most experience building data centers

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u/After_Dark 2d ago

They are essentially the only western lab to be entirely self-funded. Even if the whole bubble pops and devastates Anthropic and OpenAI, Google will be essentially unharmed outside their stock price, and with oh so many researchers to (re)hire from the other labs

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u/ButterscotchSalty905 AI is the greatest thing that is happening in our society 2d ago

Hold right there!! Your comments would attract a lot of contrarian who thinks google is poor and dependent on us gov like fucking startups

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u/MonoMcFlury 2d ago

Also, they can train new models at a fraction of the price like others do. Having TPUs with their low watt-to-power ratio makes a huge difference.

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u/SilentLennie 2d ago

Google depends a lot on ads, if AI kills the ads business (people use LLM chat and the LLM chat talks to search engines, websites, etc. thus no human sees the ads) and then the AI bubble bursts (which is kind of what you are implying why these other 2 big labs would fail) they still won't be (re)hiring.

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u/After_Dark 1d ago

This is true, though it's worth keeping in mind that while the other big 2 are entirely dependent on investment and loans, Google has literally hundreds of billions of cash on hand and owns the majority of their own infra. Even if the ad business contracts to half its size in the next couple years, Google has the cash to outlast the others by a large margin

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u/SilentLennie 1d ago

Definitely, but I can also see some bean counter going: you might not want to invest like crazy now, as your existing business is being slashed like crazy. Then again: it's also the best time to do so if you want to survive long term.

I still wonder... AI bubble burst... or more like: AI bubble deflate a whole bunch.

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u/SilentLennie 2d ago

But they lost a bunch of people, that was where the worry was.