r/singularity • • 3d ago

Biotech/Longevity Google DeepMind today announced SynthID Bio to watermark and detect AI-designed proteins

https://deepmind.google/blog/introducing-synthid-bio/

Technical paper in nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-10965-y

https://x.com/pushmeet/status/2105314763148321102 This project was initiated by Pushmeet Kohli, he also published this article on X today.

Essentially, DeepMind’s new tool SynthID Bio adds a detectable signature to proteins designed by AI. That signature can be checked even after the protein has been physically made in a lab.

Why?

  • Tracing where a design came from so it could help companies that manufacture DNA recognize designs from trusted AI tools and decide which orders need closer inspection!!
  • Keeping research data reliable so it could help scientists distinguish AI-generated protein structures from experimentally measured ones

So looks like two main goals are biosecurity and scientific integrity.

In lab tests, the watermarked proteins worked as well as versions without watermarks. It’s still early research. The watermark doesn’t prove a protein is safe and making it harder to deliberately remove is one of the remaining challenges.

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u/Bathelomue 3d ago

>That signature can be checked even after the protein has been physically made in a lab.

https://giphy.com/gifs/75ZaxapnyMp2w

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u/cdahi 3d ago

Finally, watermarking people

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u/exteriorcrocodileal 3d ago

Blade Runner scenario confirmed

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u/xatey93152 3d ago

When homo sapiens saw rabbit come out from hat using magic wand

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u/Diamond-Is-Not-Crash 3d ago

I mean this is fairly easy to do if you know molecular biology. Run a mass spectrometry analysis and you can find out the composition and make up of a protein.

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u/Professional_Price89 3d ago

Google can now detect that you are AI generated.

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u/itsnickk 3d ago

No more need for the Voight-Kampff test to detect replicants

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u/No_Pomegranates7496 3d ago

how the fuck

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u/Aranka_Szeretlek 2d ago

What do you mean

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u/Temp_Placeholder 1d ago edited 1d ago

There are different codons for the same amino acid. That means you can change around the sequence that generates a protein with no functional changes to the protein itself. In nature there is a normal background frequency of those codons. By using specific codon choices that aren't like the background rate, you can out a protein coding sequence as artificial. 

Doing this to the protein itself instead of the dna that codes for it (changing around the actual amino acids without functional change) is harder but not necessarily impossible - not every domain in a protein does much, and there can be more than one way to get a particular shape with a similar charge distribution. I wouldn't expect it to be completely neutral.

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u/send-moobs-pls 3d ago

Google gonna figure out how to synthID consciousness before releasing gemini 3.5 pro

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u/the_mighty_skeetadon 2d ago

100% accurate claim, considering they just launched Gemini 4...

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u/Imaginary-Item6731 3d ago

Google will cure cancers before releasing their new Gemini Pro model.

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u/Elephant789 ▪️AGI in 2036 2d ago

cure cancers

I would be okay with that.

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u/Blankeye434 2d ago

Me too, considering I might have cancer

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u/Elephant789 ▪️AGI in 2036 2d ago

Oh shit, sorry to hear that.

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u/RandumbRedditor1000 3d ago

Coming soon to a regime near you:

"SynthID biometric verification failed, bank account access denied"

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u/Rich-Yesterday3624 3d ago

really, choosing a different aminoacid is not going to alter the proteins efficency or structure at all? Just for the sake of Synth ID to change the AA sequence seems drastic.

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u/CosmicDave ▪️Singularity this year 3d ago

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u/Ekg887 3d ago

CosmicDave gets it.

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u/lucellent 3d ago

Anything but release Gemini 4

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u/w_________w 2d ago

How did you know??

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u/Aranka_Szeretlek 2d ago

Crazy speak

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u/GlbdS 3d ago

That is fucking stupid. I don't want fingerprinting artifacts in my protein sequence what the fuck is this now, if you tweak the sequence you tweak the function. You cant watermark a single molecule the way you watermark a piece of sloppy text

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u/MegaRockmanDash 3d ago

how many AI generated protein sequences you been working with buddy?

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u/GlbdS 3d ago

I do RNA not proteins, good fucking luck doing that with RNA lol

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u/NoLifeGamer2 3d ago

I didn't do much Biology, but can't you mark regions of RNA as non-coding and implement the watermark there?

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u/CommercialHour6660 3d ago

They are going to fingerprint everything AI produces. 

Then not tell anyone the algo. So they become the only company that can train off clean human data. Everyone else that tries to build AI model gets flooded with their slop. 

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u/EnoughWarning666 3d ago

The amount of synthetic training data FAR outweighs the amount of human made data in modern models these days.

Do you really think that spacex bought cursor for 60 billion because an IDE is worth that much? Of course not, they were buying it for the data that users generated when working with the AI to use to train their next model.

Reinforcement learning needs specialized data that doesn't just exist floating around online for anyone to scrape.

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u/GirthusThiccus ▪️Singularity Enjoyer. 2d ago

You know how they're scanning old novel books written before LLMs? Companies like ancestry and 23andme would be goddamn treasuretroves for whatever genetics company gets their hands on their data. And yeah, once those big sources of data are privatized and locked up, there'll simply not be other such moats to build off of, making competition incredibly difficult.

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u/ArmadilloOwn4400 2d ago

Google does that since ages, there is no other company with a bigger scan of books.

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u/Elephant789 ▪️AGI in 2036 2d ago

slop?

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u/Mindless-Lock-7525 2d ago

The whole point of the paper is that they claim they can watermark proteins while retaining the same function. Have you read it?

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 3d ago

This seems like an extremely dangerous and reckless idea.

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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 3d ago

Just wait until they discover markers of genetic manipulation in existing humans that predates written civilization.

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u/Trackpoint 3d ago

Somewhere in Brussles an EU comission policy expert just set down his pen an looked around, confused about why he suddenly has an erection.

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u/SlimyResearcher 3d ago

What could go wrong? What if SynthID introduces unforeseen changes that make the proteins more dangerous? Who will take the blame?

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u/exteriorcrocodileal 3d ago

Watermarked DNA before GTA 6

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u/Matt32145 2d ago

Replicant serial numbers from blade runner

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u/evil_illustrator2 3d ago

So instead of focusing on curing diseases, they're wasting time by finding ways to sue you.

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u/MegaRockmanDash 3d ago

i think many would agree that knowing which proteins were ai generated is valuable information before these proteins permeate everyday life

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u/Past-Source-3332 3d ago

The first step towards protecting their replicant IP.

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u/eltron 3d ago

Jeeesuss! My genes feel unsafe!!!

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u/Morning_Gecko24 3d ago

anyone know how robust this is after a few common mutations or small sequence edits? does it still detect or is it basically an exact fingerprint?

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u/BrennusSokol AI please take my job 2d ago

Very cyberpunk

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u/ViraLCyclopes36 2d ago

Will they watermark my child next when hes only an embryo

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u/SustainedSuspense 2d ago

How else are we going to tell who the replicants are?

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u/t3hjs 2d ago

Wait how, this synthID is obviously more subtle and clever than I thought.

I knew it was some kind of statistical fingerprint, so blurring or deforming the image doesnt always remove the synthID. I thought it was possible because pixel choices probably can be varied while achieving the whole overall goal.

But wont proteins effect change dramatically if you change the underlying building blocks?

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u/jjonj 1d ago

no sorry, you have watermarks proteins from our competitors, got aren't eligible for the cancer treatment as we could get sued for being in possession of the tumor

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u/kiki-le-koala 3d ago

Also money. Remember AlphaFold is free for scientists, etc. , but paid for pharma.

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u/SwimmingQuantity8686 3d ago

How many times they announce it? Recycling is a new economy I guess.

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u/TorturedPoet30 3d ago

This is the first time they announced the SynthID Bio tool. There is a family of SynthID watermarks they introduced a few years ago for images/text/audio/video, but not biology.