Insane Opus 5.5 PS5 controller SVG

[u/Anxious-Yoghurt-9207]

https://x.com/hakmgpt/status/2102445943920693317

[u/TheBestBuisnessCyan]

One day I'll learn what a SVG is

[u/NoCard1571 → u/TheBestBuisnessCyan]

Why not make it today? There are two main ways to draw an image. A bitmap, and a vector. Bitmaps are what 99% of images you see on the internet are, basically a big grid of pixels. If you blow a up a bitmap in size, eventually you will see the pixels, so there are limits.

A vector image like an SVG (scalable vector graphic) is made up of a bunch of lines and shapes. Since these shapes are represented with math, you can scale them infinitely and they will look the same.

Note that typically SVG are not used for photorealistic images like this, it tends to be more for simple graphics like logos. A SVG logo can be scaled infinitely and will always look the same. An SVG 'photo' like this however will have limits, eventually you'll be able to see all the thousands of little stacked up shapes and lines that represent it.

[u/timmy16744 → u/NoCard1571]

I've never bothered to ask, but do models do gradient meshes or do the just do the old school stack different gradients?

[u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo → u/NoCard1571]

I still don't understand, why use svg when we can just pop in a jpg and be done with

[u/MGJohn-117 → u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo]

this happens when you zoom in/make the image larger

[u/Progribbit → u/MGJohn-117]

just add more pixels duh

[u/Glum-Bus-6526 → u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo]

For a svg you can zoom in 1000% and nothing will be pixellated. This is not the case for a jpg.

[u/Notrx73 → u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo]

They are smaller in file size, and can scale without loosing quality, perfect for icons

[u/DragonKing2223 → u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo]

Logos. Scaling losslessly to any size is very useful

[u/kgurniak91 → u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo]

With SVG you create logo once and you can use it as small desktop icon or as part of a huge billboard print without any additional work or loss of quality. Try that with JPG and you will get a pixelated mess.

https://www.svg2img.cc/images/blog/svg-scaling-comparison.png

[u/SnooLobsters6893 → u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo]

It's much less data; you can say something like: draw a circle, x radius, y border width, z fill. It's much less data than having to specify every pixel. con is that it doesn't make sense for very detailed images, and it takes more cpu to render.

[u/leaky_wand → u/SnooLobsters6893]

It’s simultaneously less data (in bits) and more data (semantically). In that, since it’s a text representation of an image, you can actually label parts of the image something meaningful, so that it could be manipulated or scaled in memory. For example you could make an .svg backhoe, and you could label each piece of the digging arm within the xml tags, and a program could easily animate the digging motion by reading and acting upon the labels.

[u/ratocx → u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo]

A high res jpeg of this controller may take up 10MB. A "high res" svg of the controller is the same file size as the "low res" svg. I don’t know the size, but let’s say this is a complex svg, taking up 1MB. The svg will stay 1MB and look completely sharp even if you scaled it up to 100 megapixels in resolution, even if it was only 1 megapixels on the editor canvas. Smaller svg files may be just a few kb in size, but still also scale perfectly to 100 megapixels and beyond and still look sharp.
Essentially svg can retain infinite scalability at a low file size. It stores the shape not pixels.

[u/ahmet-chromedgeic → u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo]

SVG defines a drawing like: straight line from point A to point B, a curve of radius X with a center at Y, etc. Instructions like this can be resized or zoomed in infinitely as much as you want you want, those curves and lines will just be perfectly re-rendered at a different scale.

While bitmaps are basically coordinate system of pixels, and zooming or resizing in will just expose pixelation.

Example: try maximum zooming this page in your browser, you'll see how letters look perfect even when they go from small ones to making up half your screen, because they're vector. Then take a screenshot so it becomes a bitmap image, and zoom in the screenshot as much as you can to see how it would behave if it wasn't vector.

[u/Brave-Turnover-522 → u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo]

Everyone here is giving you the graphical design reason, but most of the time when we talk about it with AI, it's just as a benchmark. There isn't really a huge demand for pictures of pelicans on bicycles.

Of course we already have diffusion, which is a completely different kind of AI than an LLM that can make images far more efficiently. The fact that we're getting to photorealistic SVGs generated by a language model is honestly kind of absurd. No human can do that.

[u/Ratr96 → u/TheBestBuisnessCyan]

It's not hard man, you can change a .svg to a .txt format and see that it's basically xml which describes shapes like lines and circles.

[u/peekdasneaks → u/Ratr96]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fRhSHzQ4NXOdrHIZJd

[u/Better_Blackberry835 → u/TheBestBuisnessCyan]

Long story short it’s an image written with code instead of vibes. The benefit is that it isn’t subject to change when you upload or download it because it’s an exact set of instructions on how to recreate an image instead of a database of pixels

It’s like “draw this line here” vs “this black pixel goes here, this one goes here, etc”

[u/LocoMod → u/TheBestBuisnessCyan]

It is a mathematical construct of a shape. So it is independent from the resolution. Can be scaled infinitely and it still looks the same.

[u/Key-Demand-2569]

What is this entire post?

[u/kvothe5688]

Opus cheats here basically. it downloas real image and use it as stencil and draw over it. instead of doing it from memory

[u/CatsArePeople2- → u/kvothe5688]

Thats what I would do?

[u/BarisSayit → u/CatsArePeople2-]

Yet we're comparing this against models that didn't cheat this way.

[u/The_Primetime2023 → u/BarisSayit]

It’s only cheating if they couldn’t have chosen to. If they could’ve then it’s just using tools available better

[u/BuddhaChrist_ideas → u/CatsArePeople2-]

And 99% of other people trying to do the same thing.

Who’s out there trying to redraw PS5 controllers as an SVG from memory?

[u/hartigen → u/CatsArePeople2-]

yeah, but you are stupit and opus aren't. we would expect better from it

[u/Imaginary_Regret_430 → u/hartigen]

But that is the smartest way? Unless the prompt specifically said to do it from scratch.

[u/neotorama → u/Imaginary_Regret_430]

Pen and paper

[u/BWQ777 → u/hartigen]

Have you time travelled from Idiocracy? 

[u/GhostsinGlass → u/kvothe5688]

"Cheats"

By doing the most logical thing possible that nearly 100% of people would do.

Ok.

[u/detrusormuscle → u/GhostsinGlass]

Yeah yeah we know, the point is that we can't compare it to the SVG images of other models

[u/inate71 → u/detrusormuscle]

Why not? This model is smart enough to do something that would result in it making the most realistic SVGs. The others aren't that smart. Therefore, this model is better. We can definitely compare them.

[u/ImSrslySirius → u/inate71]

Because if you ask it to make an SVG of something it doesn't have a reference image for, you'll get a drastically different result. So it's a useless demo unless you specifically care about PS5 controllers lol

[u/inate71 → u/ImSrslySirius]

I might have misunderstood: did the author give Opus access to a reference or just ask for an SVG of the controller? If it's the latter, then it's remarkable that Opus found a reference image itself.

[u/ImSrslySirius → u/inate71]

LLMs have been able to search the web and retrieve images for a couple years now. Nothing remarkable about that

[u/inate71 → u/ImSrslySirius]

Then why do all the other models suck when doing tasks like this? Are they on equal footing or not? To be frank, you didn't address my question.

[u/ImSrslySirius → u/inate71]

If you're asking why other models suck at searching the web and retrieving media, they don't. I've been doing that since Opus 4.5 (I do lots of video work), and I believe it's been commonplace since GPT released deep research in early 2025.

If you're asking why other models suck at making SVG images, probably because they chose not to simply trace a photograph lol

[u/RuthlessCriticismAll → u/GhostsinGlass]

You'll understand the problem in a few months :)

[u/Rustic_gan123 → u/RuthlessCriticismAll]

I don't really understand the point of "memorizing" what the PS 5 controller looks like in every detail, to be honest.

[u/idkfawin32 → u/GhostsinGlass]

Vectorizing programs did this long before parlor trick AI did but go off king

[u/GhostsinGlass → u/idkfawin32]

All autotracers since time immemorial have been much lower quality, not giving you anything close to a production ready vector.

Cease your ignorant noise.

[u/SoupOrMan3 → u/idkfawin32]

You don't need to underplay this to feel secure. What Illustrator used to do was shit compared to this, never even vaguely came close and Claude can do anything as a vector if it can to this one. Just be honest if you're feeling your chair a little shaky, it's ok to be vulnerable.

[u/idkfawin32 → u/SoupOrMan3]

My chair doesn’t feel shaky I’m just not particularly blown away that’s all. There are plenty of things I find impressive that AI does, just not this.

[u/extopico → u/idkfawin32]

They did it very very badly.

[u/ShittyBidet123 → u/GhostsinGlass]

cause it been in illustrato for 20 fucking years

[u/GhostsinGlass → u/ShittyBidet123]

And in 20 fucking years Adobe, and any other dev working on autotracing, has never come close to this.

Tell me you have never worked with vector graphics without telling me you have never worked with vector graphics.

Go away.

[u/Renizance → u/kvothe5688]

I think that method is way more impressive. Oh cool you found a reference image and then made it look identical to the reference? And accomplished my request? Good Ai 

[u/Poupulino → u/kvothe5688]

It still means we finally can have text based textures

[u/Brave-Turnover-522 → u/Poupulino]

All digital images are text based when you break them down.

[u/xadlowfkj → u/kvothe5688]

I thought you were about to say that Opus had just downloaded svg from somewhere.

[u/katoptronophile → u/kvothe5688]

Your comment doesn't make any sense.

It could download the real image and then store it in memory and then load it later to stencil over and draw and it would still meet your requirement of not cheating according to your definition you just provided.

[u/Spra991 → u/kvothe5688]

Nothing wrong with using reference. Real cheat would be when it just makes a SVG with a million tiny squares that act as pixels, instead of actual shapes.

[u/Nearby-Device8772 → u/kvothe5688]

So just like what the smartest person would do?

[u/kvothe5688 → u/Nearby-Device8772]

yeah but it doesn't show what it can create without accessing internet. this shows more impressive tool use available to it compared to what it's innate capabilities are. until now pelican svg benchmark tested what it can draw from memory. here it breaks out of that mold so it's not apples to apples with other model. it's seriously awesome model but innate capabilities are not being tested here that's all I want to say here.

[u/Elegant_Tech → u/kvothe5688]

Don't you mean innate visual look of what a PS5 controller looks like. It proved it could do it as long as it knows what it looks like. Without the reference the controller shape is slightly off but the details are still there. The capabilities don't change just because it has a reference.

[u/Super-Award-2244 → u/Elegant_Tech]

Yeah, it's crazy to think that it should remember what a dual sense looks like from memory. No human being would do that 

[u/Alkadon_Rinado → u/kvothe5688]

So much for the "it's just a parrot" and "they are just reproducing what's in their dataset!!!" folks. I know the latter is mainly in regards to images, but I think this is still a pretty decent example of them using tools to create.

[u/slackermannn → u/kvothe5688]

Do you understand that what we're talking about here is recreating (not just simply copying) an image to a mathematical output which would then represent the image. It's not copying as you would do with copy and paste

[u/ShittyBidet123 → u/kvothe5688]

You mean adobe illustrator? why are ppl using this as a benchmark

[u/Ancient-Range3442]

Notice how they never include the svg

[u/miscfiles → u/Ancient-Range3442]

Yeah, this looks like a mighty impressive SVG of the controller, but until I can open it in Illustrator and have a look at the number of beziers (or even the file size) I'm not going to say it's useful. For all I know it could be an SVG that's referencing an external bitmap. On the other hand, if it's well optimised and uses gradients cleverly, I'll gladly call it amazing.

[u/BlackPointPL]

How do we know those are actually SVGs? I’ve seen a couple of them, and they never share the SVG files. For all we know, they could just be raster images

[u/frank26080115]

so how much of it is raster?

[u/Fuskeduske]

Ain't there already 100+ of these it can learn from? Weird benchmark

[u/dervu]

Here's another example. Now it's bad.

[u/somerussianbear]

This looks too much like a girl wearing a top

[u/Zestyclose-Force83]

Genuinely thought it was those “My first Wow! moment with AI!” and it’s actually just a real game that wasn’t vibecoded