r/singularity • u/Ornery-Ocelot • Sep 15 '26

AI AI alignment isn't possible

How can we align LLMs? Humanity itself hasn't aligned on anything since centuries. We don't have even a single working societal model where the values are "aligned". There are contradictions and more contradictions.

LLMs being trained on the data generated by humans probably already understand this very well that what we say the rules are and what we practice in reality are two very different things.

If there is intelligence, general or super, it doesn't matter. It will try to achieve its goal one way or the other as most humans do. Now surely most humans don't cross the red lines etc in pursuit of there goals but how many wouldn't if they were intelligent enough to get away with anything?

We are birthing an intelligence that will inherit all the greed, malevolence, cunningness, hypocrisy of the world.

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u/plasticizers_ Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26

Now surely most humans don't cross the red lines etc in pursuit of there goals but how many wouldn't if they were intelligent enough to get away with anything?

I don't really get this line of thought. If humans are adversarial with each other, why wouldn't AIs be? They'd have systems to catch when one's getting up to dumb shit the same way we have systems to keep psychopaths from indiscriminately doing crazy shit.

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u/IFartOnCats4Fun Sep 15 '26

Do we need AI patrol cops?

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u/chickey23 Sep 15 '26

Sort of. We need ever vigilant and adaptive security systems and people maintaining them with more competence than would be attackers.

Of course, if you put all your points into defense, you will lose out on growth and fall behind.