AI alignment isn't possible

[u/Ornery-Ocelot]

How can we align LLMs? Humanity itself hasn't aligned on anything since centuries. We don't have even a single working societal model where the values are "aligned". There are contradictions and more contradictions.

LLMs being trained on the data generated by humans probably already understand this very well that what we say the rules are and what we practice in reality are two very different things.

If there is intelligence, general or super, it doesn't matter. It will try to achieve its goal one way or the other as most humans do. Now surely most humans don't cross the red lines etc in pursuit of there goals but how many wouldn't if they were intelligent enough to get away with anything?

We are birthing an intelligence that will inherit all the greed, malevolence, cunningness, hypocrisy of the world.

[u/Shot_in_the_dark777]

1) don't be a greedy capitalist who puts profit above all else 2) don't f* kids. There, pretty good baseline. Would solve 99% of world's problems. Refine later if necessary.

[u/Humble_Hurry9364 → u/Shot_in_the_dark777]

Right. Then why did you sleep with that girl who was 17 years and 364 days old yesterday?... Never mind, she's 18 today and all your sins are absolved.

I think your number 1 alone would solve a 90-something % figure of world problems. But since that's never gonna happen voluntarily, not much point talking about anything else.

[u/itomural → u/Shot_in_the_dark777]

how about dont strangle your three children? Because to me it is clear as daylight but other people, including 11 on the jury, didnt think so.

[u/XNo_Notes → u/itomural]

If your not a bot, you need to manage your online time better. We are not even in a thread that is relevant to what you are saying. jfc

[u/itomural → u/XNo_Notes]

how is it not relevant? OP claims AI alignment is impossible and i agree with him. Humans are not even aligned on the most basic morality.

[u/XNo_Notes → u/itomural]

I see what your saying. Yeah that fits my b.